Working Potter on wed 6 feb 02
Is there a good college text or difinitive book on claybody development that
covers the differing temperatures and the characteristics each ingredient
adds and problems it may cause beyond parameters.Is there a list of
contemporary claybody ingredients with analysis that gives reccommended
possible amounts generally used for maximizing its best characteristics?
Help,please!!!!
Misty
Marjorie on thu 7 feb 02
Dear Misty
One book that I am familiar with that could be helpful is "Clay Bodies" by
Robert Tichane. I believe you can still purchase this from The Potters
Shop. ( inexpensive !)
This book was published in 1990. Therefore, you would need to get up to
date analysis of many of the clays, some will no longer be available and
most probably have a changed analysis from those in the book. It is a
very good book. It has many references to guide you to more
detailed/technical information and publications, depending on how long a
journey you wish to take in your exploration of claybodies. MarjB.
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Subject: do they teach clay body developmen in college anymore?
> Is there a good college text or difinitive book on claybody development
that
> covers the differing temperatures and the characteristics each ingredient
> adds and problems it may cause beyond parameters.Is there a list of
> contemporary claybody ingredients with analysis that gives reccommended
> possible amounts generally used for maximizing its best characteristics?
> Help,please!!!!
> Misty
>
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Dan Dermer on sat 9 feb 02
There's good information on formulating your own clay body in "What Every
Potter Should Know" by Jeff Zamek. Chapters 7-11 deal with clay bodies and
comparisons of materials.
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Subject: do they teach clay body developmen in college anymore?
Is there a good college text or difinitive book on claybody development that
covers the differing temperatures and the characteristics each ingredient
adds and problems it may cause beyond parameters.Is there a list of
contemporary claybody ingredients with analysis that gives reccommended
possible amounts generally used for maximizing its best characteristics?
Help,please!!!!
Misty
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Ron Roy on sun 10 feb 02
Not that I know of - Clay and Glazes for the Potter - 3rd edition - Rhodes
revised by Hopper lists the different kinds of clays and why they are
incorporated into bodies but it is very general.
The Hamer's Potters Dictionary of Materials and Techniques lists
characteristics of different types of clays as well.
Mimi Obstler's Out of the Earth Into the Fire is perhaps the best of all
giving characteristics AND analysis of different clays.
I recommend every serious potter have all three of these books anyway.
As for how to formulate clay bodies - my best advice is to use many clays
as you can - to lessen the chances of the body going very wrong because of
variations in raw materials. Designing a clay body is quite specific to the
end temperature - materials you would use in a low fire body can be
disastrous in a cone 10 body - white bodies are harder to get right than
darker ones - well I could go on all night about this of course - but I
must say - I have not found any reliable instructions on body formulation
anywhere - I suspect it is because many materials have changed over the
last 30 years - sometimes not for the better.
Probably the best advice is to find a recipe that has materials you can get
and start experimenting.
If you want to run that sort of information by me I can provide some guide
lines.
RR
>Is there a good college text or difinitive book on claybody development that
>covers the differing temperatures and the characteristics each ingredient
>adds and problems it may cause beyond parameters.Is there a list of
>contemporary claybody ingredients with analysis that gives reccommended
>possible amounts generally used for maximizing its best characteristics?
>Help,please!!!!
>Misty
Ron Roy
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Karen Terpstra on mon 11 feb 02
> From: Ron Roy
> Subject: Re: do they teach clay body developmen in college anymore?
>
> Not that I know of -
>
Sad fact. If colleges do offer a specific clay and glaze class, it is
often very generic or poorly taught. Don't get me wrong, there are many
good programs out there, but they are in the minority.
I have been thinking about Doug Gray's posts from a while back regarding
how much material has to be covered in colleges and universities. It is
difficult to cover everything in especially in a one-person operation
like Doug's and mine. I didn't have a chance to respond at the time but
have a suggestion.
Would a few of you professors on the list be interested in meeting at
NCECA and discussing syllabi? Maybe meet sometime in the Clayart Room?
It would be a great help for new Prof's especially I think. Doesn't
have to limited to Prof's either---anyone sincerely interested in
education....
Things that have been discussed lately on Clayart are: teaching glaze
and clay development, business practices, and technical skills vs.
theory---to name a few.
In the process of tweaking my syllabus every semester, Clayart has been
invaluable!!!
Happy Firings!
Karen Terpstra
University of Wisconsin-La Crosse
school: terpstra.kare@uwlax.edu
home: kterpstra@centurytel.net
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