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updated fri 8 feb 02

 

potterybydai on wed 6 feb 02


We are looking at buying a house that pretty much fits our needs (we're
leaving the big city ), BUT---(there's always a "but")---the house is
about 75-100' across a country gravel road from the raised railway bed. As
this place is in another town, an hour and a half away, and there's only two
or three trains a day/night, on a loose schedule, it's pretty awkward for us
to go up there when a train's going by to see if everything shakes or not.
The owner of the house says it doesn't (e.g. china in the cupboards doesn't
rattle), but even though she's a sweet old lady, I don't want to trust her
word completely. My question (I'm finally getting to it): how much
vibration would have an adverse effect on a firing, if it occurred while the
firing was going on? I fire to ^6 electric. The building that would house
the kilns has a raised wood floor, but we would probably sit the kilns on
separate cement pads on top of the floor. I'm thinking if vibration
occurred during the first part (cooler) it wouldn't be as disastrous as if
it occurred near peak temp. But, obviously, if any vibration at all is a
no-no, then we'll have to make plans for an extended winter picnic beside
the road, waiting for the train---if our wine glasses tinkle, the place is
out!
Hoping someone will have an idea or some experience with this.
Dai in Kelowna, BC
potterybydai@shaw.ca

Life is 10% what happens to you, and 90% how you
respond to it.

Paul Herman on thu 7 feb 02


Fear not, Dai,
I have lived and worked right next to a track and trestle for almost 20
years. The ground does vibrate a bit, and if the wine glasses are just
the right distance apart in the cupboard, they make a nice little
tinkling sound. So every time I fire, many trains go by, about ten a
day. I don't think I could blame any of my seconds on the train.
Of course I imagine some places shake more than others, but it has not
been a problem here.
Paul in Doyle

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>From: potterybydai

> how much
> vibration would have an adverse effect on a firing, if it occurred while the
> firing was going on?

Working Potter on thu 7 feb 02


In a message dated 2/7/2002 7:18:16 AM Pacific Standard Time,
potterybydai@SHAW.CA writes:


>
> We are looking at buying a house that pretty much fits our needs (we're
> leaving the big city ), BUT---(there's always a "but")---the house is
> about 75-100' across a country gravel road from the raised railway bed. As
> this place is in another town, an hour and a half away, and there's only
> two
> or three trains a day/night, on a loose schedule, it's pretty awkward for
> us
> to go up there when a train's going by to see if everything shakes or not.
> The owner of the house says it doesn't (e.g. china in the cupboards doesn't
> rattle), but even though she's a sweet old lady, I don't want to trust her
> word completely. My question (I'm finally getting to it): how much
> vibration would have an adverse effect on a firing, if it occurred while
> the
> firing was going on? I fire to ^6 electric. The building that would house
> the kilns has a raised wood floor, but we would probably sit the kilns on
> separate cement pads on top of the floor. I'm thinking if vibration
> occurred during the first part (cooler) it wouldn't be as disastrous as if
> it occurred near peak temp. But, obviously, if any vibration at all is a
> no-no, then we'll have to make plans for an extended winter picnic beside
> the road, waiting for the train---if our wine glasses tinkle, the place is
> out!
> Hoping someone will have an idea or some experience with this.
> Dai in Kelowna, BC
> potterybydai@shaw.ca
>
> Life is 10% what happens to you, and 90% how you
> respond to it.
>
>

Dear Dai,
Your letter evoked a chuckle as our realator said the train only came by a
couple times a week, but it was more like a couple times a day.The noise and
vibration were never a problem to my kilns nor firings , although visitors
sometimes noticed and if I was on the phone it would cause a bit of
annoyance.There were times where the rumble was worse than the general rule
and I suspect that the frieght was especially heavy.We were uphill of the
tracks probably as close as 200 feet. I don't know if the soil type or track
bed construction would make a difference.We did notice a certain spot in the
[not serious] drywall would develop a crack that even when repaired would
reappear but whether that was attributable to trains , construction or our
foundation we do not know.I wonder if this is a question a structural
engineer could answer?
We did make sure the concrete slab we built the gas kiln on was overkill
(compressed 6"+sand and crushed rock with heavy plastic overlay beneath 6"
of high strength concrete mix under the concrete block base to the brick} but
not due to train concerns.
You might wish to request a "camp out "on the site if you are concerned.
Misty

m markey on thu 7 feb 02


Hi Everybody!

I once used a studio that was in an industrial section of Oakland, CA.
Trains moved on the tracks just behind the kiln room day and night. I had no
problems with kilns or stuff in kilns. The noises from the trains became a
background drone, something to get used to over time.

I did, however, have a kiln operating during a 4.0 earthquake (minor
shaking), in the same studio. Two of my pieces got "welded" together, and a
tile I had on a lower kiln shelf cracked during the shaker. But an
earthquake is a much greater form of movement than trains moving about in a
nearby railroad yard.

Best wishes!

Mohabee NakedClay@hotmail.com



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