Earl Brunner on sat 9 feb 02
I have two pieces of Sung Dynasty pottery that I bought on Ebay. They are not the
best examples, and even if they are contemporary rip offs, they came from China and
are very good repro's. Hey, I'm happy
They are tiny and chipped and rather plain, but they were sold by a clearing house
in New York that represented themselves as working with the approval of the Chinese
Government. I haven't carbon tested them (I didn't pay that much for them) but the
people selling them had sold literally thousands of Chinese artifacts and had a good
EBAY record.
Lee Love wrote:
> If money were no object, Sung pottery would be one of the things I'd have in
> my private museum.
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Dave Finkelnburg on sat 9 feb 02
>Vince wrote:
>"Central Pneumatic" and "Chicago Electric" tools.
>They are absolute crap, and they will die soon.
Hi all!
"Made in China" isn't necessarily all bad. I have yet to find bad
Chinese-made pottery here in the U.S. Cheap though, hard for me to compete
with. I have seen some real crap pottery from Viet Nam, Indonesia, the
Philippines and elsewhere.
I wonder if, with Chinese tools, we are seeing "Made in Japan" quality
from the '50's and '60's all over again. I suspect with time the quality,
and cost, of the Chinese tools will go up. In the meantime, I consider
anything "Made in China" suspect. I don't find good quality steel in the
hand tools, nor good quality bearings in the power tools.
In my opinion, Vince is right.
Dave Finkelnburg in Idaho
george koller on sat 9 feb 02
Dave wrote:
"I wonder if, with Chinese tools, we are seeing "Made in Japan" quality
from the '50's and '60's all over again.
Dave,
I really think so. My last bike is made in China. All aluminum frame.
I've been a bike rider all my life and think a know a few things about
them. At first (for me) "made in china" meant "cheap crap trying to look
like something good". Then about 3 years ago, after some considerable
shopping I bought mine. I thought they were more than just competitive
but Good. Well I bought that bike for $125 with telescopic forks, beautifully
made, and it has held up suprisingly well. Not great, but well. During
the summer I take my boat over to Northport, live on it, and I depend on that
bike for all my transportation. 50# back pack sometimes and overweight
me riding that thing like a big old kid (carefully but up down some curbs etc).
Even woke up one night to find wind blew it off the dock. Pulled it up and
have ridden it since. Its been good, not great maybe, but very solid.
What's more, now when my wife drags me one of those big department stores
I "go look at the bikes". Hey, don't own one yet but some of those things are
things of beauty in my book. Aluminum and alloys all over. Light and strong.
And much of it is from China these days. I understand there are some
American makers over there now and they must be reveling in the low cost
labor and skills to keep their prices down while making beautiful stuff
(that I can't vouche for directly).
Next: we use some very sophisticated CNC controller software that
reads the files we produce from art (EPS) files. Motion control stuff
for 3 axis and more. Unheard of "smoothing" that has sped us up by
over 300%, Well the founder of the company spends a lot of time in
China these days. They are doing advanced stuff over there these days.
I'll ask if he saw any slaves and will try and learn more.
Oh, and one more thing I do know about China rather first hand. They are
doing with electric vehicles and other alternative vehicles to gas - whatwe just keep talking about. I am invested in a battery company with some
amazing capabilities (batteries with 3X the power in 1/2 the weight -
uses a gel). Who has shown interest?? Well they now make them in
eastern europe but have had great interest mostly from China - almost
none in USA. Can't draw any conclusions from this but the indications
are strong to me that they are on the march for something better involving
quality and innovations. Clearly there is strong national pride showing
up. I know I can sense that for sure - remember the spy plane incident?
I've never been to China but wish I could someday. Keep watching and
listening to all that report to this list on travels to China. Then that tour
offer excites me for days. Maybe somebody on this list is in China, or
has been there recently that can report on these changes in industrial
capabilities?
Well, my $69.99 HVLP complete spray system cost me $85.94 with
10 extra for UPS. It is on the way to michigan by Friday next week.
I plan on testing soon after. If it works as well as I hope I may take
to to that Appalachian center and spray all over Vince's car with it.
Then maybe not. We'll see. Now he'll know who did it.
Sincerely,
George Koller
Sturgeon Bay, WI - Door County
Lee Love on sun 10 feb 02
If money were no object, Sung pottery would be one of the things I'd have in
my private museum.
--
Lee Love In Mashiko Ikiru@kami.com
"The best pots for me are the pots that I like." --Shoji Hamada (1894-1978)
http://www.awanomachi-tcg.ed.jp/mashiko.html
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