Lajos Kamocsay on mon 25 feb 02
Hello,
I'm setting up a small hobby studio in my garage, but I have no idea =
what to do with the throwing water. I don't want clog my drain pipes =
(nor the city's). Could you please give me some advice?
Thanks,
Lajos
Dupre Mr Marcy M on tue 26 feb 02
Lajos,
I work in my studio, a converted garage, without plumbing. What I do is get
five-gallon pickle buckets (FREE!) from local sandwich shops to keep slops
in. I leave some of the very liquid clay in my throwing bucket so as to use
less water when throwing,
When the throwing bucket gets too full and has too many large pieces of
solid in it, I scrape out the majority into one of the slop buckets. When
the slop bucket gets about 5/6 full, I dump off the clear water on top,
sledge the glop into an old bed sheet, and hang it in the back yard for a
few days to drain off excess water. Then, I start wedging to reclaim the
clay.
Also, I have found that adding a small amount of vinegar to the throwing and
reclaiming water helps to keep the clay pliable and "earthy." Don't know
how else to describe it, but that delightful Spring-time smell of fresh
earth is what I'm talking about. When my clay smells like that, I know it's
ready for the working.
As for washing hands and tools in the sink, I have a slop sink in the
utility room, where the washing machine is. I have built a clay trap
(designs available just about anywhere) to keep the city system from getting
my precious clay. I use a Rubbermaid jar scraper to get the majority of
clay off my hands, arms, face, then rinse and sponge in the sink. After a
hard session of throwing, a few drops of pure white vinegar helps renew
elasticity to my hands, followed with a creamy lotion to restore lost oils
in the skin.
Hope this helps,
Tig
Get Dirty!
-----Original Message-----
From: Lajos Kamocsay [mailto:kamo@VIRTUALMAGICUSA.COM]
Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2002 2:17 AM
To: CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG
Subject: Throwing water management
Hello,
I'm setting up a small hobby studio in my garage, but I have no idea what to
do with the throwing water. I don't want clog my drain pipes (nor the
city's). Could you please give me some advice?
Thanks,
Lajos
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Craig Clark on tue 26 feb 02
Lajos, I intentionally do not have a sink in my shop. I use a five
gallon bucket full of water for cleaning purposes. The throwing water is
poured into another five gallon bucket (I used to use a 30 gal bucket but
that got out of hand) and the clay is allowed to settle. I then decant the
clear water off the top (I'll probably be told that this is slowly deproving
the clay of precious fines) by pouring it into the back corner of the yard.
The softened clay is then worked a bit with my handy dandy jiffy mixer and
spread out on a plaster drying slab. After a couple days I flip the slurry
over, let it dry some more, remove it, wedge it up and have at it again. The
clay seems better, more plastic, like it almost knows what to do.....
Craig Dunn Clark
619 East 11 1/2 st
Houston, Texas 77008
(713)861-2083
mudman@hal-pc.org
----- Original Message -----
From: "Lajos Kamocsay"
To:
Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2002 1:17 AM
Subject: Throwing water management
Hello,
I'm setting up a small hobby studio in my garage, but I have no idea what to
do with the throwing water. I don't want clog my drain pipes (nor the
city's). Could you please give me some advice?
Thanks,
Lajos
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Working Potter on tue 26 feb 02
I keep a bucket near the sink to empty all throwing water and let it settle
the clay out to the botton, a day or so, then recycle the clay pouring the
slip that settled on the bottom onto a plaster surface and the water on
flower plants [I don't have any dangerous chemicals that can't be used
that way in my clay].
Misty
> Hello,
>
> I'm setting up a small hobby studio in my garage, but I have no idea what
> to do with the throwing water. I don't want clog my drain pipes (nor the
> city's). Could you please give me some advice?
>
> Thanks,
> Lajos
>
>
L HOBBS on tue 26 feb 02
I'm a newbie, but I do the same thing just because it makes sense. In the
Wallmart paint section they have these big old white buckets for paint; like
$5 each or something. I use that because the extra water is helpful later
in dumping the dirty water in the back yard (wherever it's too sandy and
needs a bit of conditioning). I don't recycle the clay like the more
experienced folks on the list because I don't throw that much yet, so I'm
not losing a lot of clay. But I'm sure if I ever start seeing a loss of a
lot of clay, I'd have to recycle too.
I rinse my tools and hands in the bucket and avoid the sink all together. I
don't have a utility sink yet, but of course I love those things and will
prob break down and get one ~ someday!
Hugs ~ Lindi
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From: Craig Clark
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To: CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG
Subject: Re: Throwing water management
Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2002 08:26:22 -0600
Lajos, I intentionally do not have a sink in my shop. I use a five
gallon bucket full of water for cleaning purposes. The throwing water is
poured into another five gallon bucket (I used to use a 30 gal bucket but
that got out of hand) and the clay is allowed to settle. I then decant the
clear water off the top (I'll probably be told that this is slowly deproving
the clay of precious fines) by pouring it into the back corner of the yard.
The softened clay is then worked a bit with my handy dandy jiffy mixer and
spread out on a plaster drying slab. After a couple days I flip the slurry
over, let it dry some more, remove it, wedge it up and have at it again. The
clay seems better, more plastic, like it almost knows what to do.....
Craig Dunn Clark
619 East 11 1/2 st
Houston, Texas 77008
(713)861-2083
mudman@hal-pc.org
----- Original Message -----
From: "Lajos Kamocsay"
To:
Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2002 1:17 AM
Subject: Throwing water management
Hello,
I'm setting up a small hobby studio in my garage, but I have no idea what to
do with the throwing water. I don't want clog my drain pipes (nor the
city's). Could you please give me some advice?
Thanks,
Lajos
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John Jensen on tue 26 feb 02
My throwing water and general throwing slop just about perfectly balances
out with my trims. So I throw all my dry clay in with my wet clay and pug
it up. Occasionally I have to add a bit of water to the mix.
John Jensen, Mudbug Pottery, Annapolis
mudbug@toad.net, Toadhouse.com
Jose A. Velez on tue 26 feb 02
Lajos wrote:
"Hello,I'm setting up a small hobby studio in my garage, but I have no idea
what to do with the throwing water. I don't want clog my drain pipes (nor
the city's). Could you please give me some advice?"
Lajos, I have the same issue. I just leave the throwing water container to
sit after I throw and the next day decant the clear water (in a sink I
intalled in the garage) and throw the "heavies" (remainder slip) on a 5
gallon covered container with other refused clay for reclaiming. I f you
are carefull very little clay will enter your drainage system.
Best wishes, Jose A. Velez
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Longtin, Jeff on tue 26 feb 02
An old trick:
find a pvc pipe that snugly fits into your drain and cut it so it extends
about 2-4 inches above the sink bottom. just pour your throwing water into
the sink and the heavier sediment will settle to the bottom and the cleaner
water will flow over the pipes edge. then just remove the pipe when you want
to clean out the sediment in your sink.
Jeff Longtin
Complex Molds Made Easy
Minneapolis mn
-----Original Message-----
From: Lajos Kamocsay [mailto:kamo@VIRTUALMAGICUSA.COM]
Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2002 1:17 AM
To: CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG
Subject: Throwing water management
Hello,
I'm setting up a small hobby studio in my garage, but I have no idea what to
do with the throwing water. I don't want clog my drain pipes (nor the
city's). Could you please give me some advice?
Thanks,
Lajos
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william schran on tue 26 feb 02
>Lajos - You asked:
>"I'm setting up a small hobby studio in my garage, but I have no
>idea what to do with the throwing water."
I simply leave mine in my bucket all the time. I have a slurry bucket
next to the wheel where I throw all clay scraps & slip. I just add
more water to the bucket as needed. I never go near my sink with clay.
Bill
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Veena Raghavan on tue 26 feb 02
With reference to Jeff's suggestion, I have been toying with the idea of
getting a plastic basin, cutting a hole out that would be the same size a=
s
the drain, and then using the PVC pipe. Then one could just remove the
basin and clean it out. Would love to know if you, Jeff, or anyone else,
thinks this would make sense.
Thanks in advance.
Veena
Message text written by Ceramic Arts Discussion List
>An old trick:
find a pvc pipe that snugly fits into your drain and cut it so it extends=
about 2-4 inches above the sink bottom. just pour your throwing water int=
o
the sink and the heavier sediment will settle to the bottom and the clean=
er
water will flow over the pipes edge. then just remove the pipe when you
want
to clean out the sediment in your sink.
Jeff Longtin<
Veena Raghavan
75124.2520@compuserve.com
Anne Wellings on wed 27 feb 02
On Mon, 25 Feb 2002 23:17:07 -0800, Lajos Kamocsay
wrote:
>Hello,
>
>I'm setting up a small hobby studio in my garage, but I have no idea what
to do with the throwing water. I don't want clog my drain pipes (nor the
city's). Could you please give me some advice?
>
>Thanks,
>Lajos
>
The best thing to do with your throwing water, from my point of view, is to
use it to recycle your trimmings and other dry clay scraps. You want to
save all the clay slurry that collects in the bottom of the throwing water
bucket and add it to the recycling. This will make the resulting clay more
plastic due to the small particle size of clay that has been rinsed away
during the throwing process. If, after settling, the water in the top of
the bucket is pretty clear, you can probably pour that part down the drain
or into the garden if you don't need it all for recycling.
Check the archives for a post of mine within the last year or so on small-
scale recycling in 5-gallon buckets. And I'm sure there will be others, as
well as the good one I read tonight in reply to yours.
Anne
Randy Blume on wed 27 feb 02
>
> From: Veena Raghavan <75124.2520@COMPUSERVE.COM>
> Date: 2002/02/26 Tue PM 11:01:33 EST
> To: CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG
> Subject: Re: Throwing water management
>
Dear Veena,
I've used both methods. I currently use a pvc pipe and in addition a plastic bucket in the sink with holes drilled. This way I have a backup system just in case the pipe loosens up.
Good Luck! Randy Blume
> With reference to Jeff's suggestion, I have been toying with the idea of
> getting a plastic basin, cutting a hole out that would be the same size as
> the drain, and then using the PVC pipe. Then one could just remove the
> basin and clean it out. Would love to know if you, Jeff, or anyone else,
> thinks this would make sense.
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
> Veena
>
> Message text written by Ceramic Arts Discussion List
> >An old trick:
> find a pvc pipe that snugly fits into your drain and cut it so it extends
> about 2-4 inches above the sink bottom. just pour your throwing water into
> the sink and the heavier sediment will settle to the bottom and the cleaner
> water will flow over the pipes edge. then just remove the pipe when you
> want
> to clean out the sediment in your sink.
> Jeff Longtin<
>
>
>
> Veena Raghavan
> 75124.2520@compuserve.com
>
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