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[re: .drooping heat coils]

updated tue 5 mar 02

 

BEVERLY SCULPTR on fri 1 mar 02


Howard ,
Thanks for your advice .
These are the elements that came in the NEW kiln... and they droop out an=
y
where actually mostly not in corners . Should I add many more securing =
wires
? how close should they be to each other? ( Sorry all ,I know, I asked th=
is of
Snail too) It is becomming a BIG pain in the rump (lol) to keep fussing w=
ith
the coils .

Beverly =

sculptr@usa.net









Arnold Howard wrote:
It is important to heat the elements before pushing them back into
the groove. You can do that with a propane torch, which costs about
$20 at building supply stores. Use long-nose pliers to squeeze the
coils together slightly while the element is hot. That should
shorten the bulging section of element, allowing it to go back into
the groove.

Then fire the kiln above cone 05. At higher temperatures, the
elements soften to the point where they will not support their own
weight. Thus, they conform to the shape of the element grooves.

Elements pop out of the grooves usually in the corners. When you
install a new element, it is important to push the element all the
way to the back of the corners.

I once asked the former plant manager at Paragon, who had worked
here since the early fifties, for pointers on element installation.
His main advice was to keep a steady pressure against the element
as you thread it into the grooves. If you let go of the element or
let up on the pressure, it will spring out of the corners.

He added that the bends in the pre-formed element must fit into the
corners. Occasionally stretching or compressing is necessary to get
the bends to fit into the corners. He suggested that if one section
of element is too long to reach the next corner, let that portion
bulge out of the groove. After the element is installed, go back
and compress the bulging portion of element with long-nose pliers.

Before firing the kiln, seat the element into the bottom of the
grooves using a plastic comb or wooden tongue depressor.

I hope this information helps with Beverly's element problem.

Arnold Howard
Paragon


--- BEVERLY SCULPTR wrote:
> Hi All,
> The coils in my kiln pop out and droop.... I push them back in (
> gently and
> use u shape wires to secure according to info iv read) And out
> they come
> again...and again... and again. . The need to reinsert the wires
> is breaking
> up those areas of brick and pretty soon will be no place to
> push wire. Im pretty sure Im not the only one with this problem
> ...any
> advice on how to prevent this or at least prevent it from
> happening so much
> would be GREATLY appricated.
>
> Thanks much in advance to all who come to my aid .
>
> Beverly


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Arnold Howard on mon 4 mar 02


Seat the elements back into the grooves and fire the kiln to cone
05 or higher. If the elements continue to bulge out of the grooves,
there may be something wrong with the element wire.

This sounds like a very frustrating problem. But there is always an
answer.

Arnold Howard
Paragon

--- BEVERLY SCULPTR wrote:
> Howard ,
> Thanks for your advice .
> These are the elements that came in the NEW kiln... and they
> droop out any
> where actually mostly not in corners . Should I add many more
> securing wires
> ? how close should they be to each other? ( Sorry all ,I know, I
> asked this of
> Snail too) It is becomming a BIG pain in the rump (lol) to keep
> fussing with
> the coils .
>
> Beverly
> sculptr@usa.net
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Arnold Howard wrote:
> It is important to heat the elements before pushing them back
> into
> the groove. You can do that with a propane torch, which costs
> about
> $20 at building supply stores. Use long-nose pliers to squeeze
> the
> coils together slightly while the element is hot. That should
> shorten the bulging section of element, allowing it to go back
> into
> the groove.
>
> Then fire the kiln above cone 05. At higher temperatures, the
> elements soften to the point where they will not support their
> own
> weight. Thus, they conform to the shape of the element grooves.
>
> Elements pop out of the grooves usually in the corners. When you
> install a new element, it is important to push the element all
> the
> way to the back of the corners.
>
> I once asked the former plant manager at Paragon, who had worked
> here since the early fifties, for pointers on element
> installation.
> His main advice was to keep a steady pressure against the element
> as you thread it into the grooves. If you let go of the element
> or
> let up on the pressure, it will spring out of the corners.
>
> He added that the bends in the pre-formed element must fit into
> the
> corners. Occasionally stretching or compressing is necessary to
> get
> the bends to fit into the corners. He suggested that if one
> section
> of element is too long to reach the next corner, let that portion
> bulge out of the groove. After the element is installed, go back
> and compress the bulging portion of element with long-nose
> pliers.
>
> Before firing the kiln, seat the element into the bottom of the
> grooves using a plastic comb or wooden tongue depressor.
>
> I hope this information helps with Beverly's element problem.
>
> Arnold Howard
> Paragon
>
>
> --- BEVERLY SCULPTR wrote:
> > Hi All,
> > The coils in my kiln pop out and droop.... I push them back in
> (
> > gently and
> > use u shape wires to secure according to info iv read) And out
> > they come
> > again...and again... and again. . The need to reinsert the
> wires
> > is breaking
> > up those areas of brick and pretty soon will be no place to
> > push wire. Im pretty sure Im not the only one with this
> problem
> > ...any
> > advice on how to prevent this or at least prevent it from
> > happening so much
> > would be GREATLY appricated.
> >
> > Thanks much in advance to all who come to my aid .
> >
> > Beverly
>
>
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