BVCuma on sun 3 mar 02
ancient hindu nursery rhyme
__________________
god is a potter and he's ok,
sleeps by night
and potters all day.
god is a potter,
brahma is his name:
inside his belly is a very hot flame.
once in a while
the world falls in,
then he starts all over again.
he's a divine drunkard
and its no shame,
cause that's the reason
no two pieces are the same.
_______________
"Pottery is a very meditative work
and can help in centering.
You may not have looked at it that way,
but anything to do with the hands is good.
Anything like pottery can=20
become an inner source of centering.
Outside, you go on centering the pot,
and inside, you go on centering yourself.
It is one of the most beautiful things a man can do.
In India we concieve of God as a potter.
In all the Indian scriptures they say that
the world is like a pot and God is the potter.
You must have heard the word 'brahma'.
Brahma means the potter, the creator of the world."
=20
"It is a meditative process that can be
transformed almost into a ritual.
You can move into prayer and meditation through it."
Osho=20
Bob Hanlin on mon 4 mar 02
If you look in the NIV (New International Version) at Jeremiah 19:1, you'll
see words like "This is what the Lord says, "Go down to the house of the
potter and buy a clay jar."" Other versions aren't so good as a
self-serving verse for potters.
I made this verse into a sign and put it up on my booth for a few shows.
God some curious comments..
Bob H>
----- Original Message -----
From: "hallelujahman pottery"
To:
Sent: Monday, March 04, 2002 1:48 PM
Subject: Re: God is a Potter
> pottery is mentioned several times in Isaiah and Jeremiah as well as
> Corinthians. I can be more specific if you like contact me at
> hallelujahman_pottery@yahoo.com
>
> >From: Carole Rishel
> >Reply-To: Ceramic Arts Discussion List
> >To: CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG
> >Subject: Re: God is a Potter
> >Date: Mon, 4 Mar 2002 11:16:41 -0600
> >
> >Somewhere in the Bible (I think) it talks about God being the potter and
we
> >are the clay.
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: Kathy Steinsberger
> >Sent: Monday, March 04, 2002 9:14 AM
> >To: CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG
> >Subject: Re: God is a Potter
> >
> >Osho,
> >Thank you for sending in your poems. I thought they
> >were wonderful and I've printed them so I can write
> >them in a book I keep for thoughts, lists, and things
> >to remember.
> >
> >I too always pictured God as a potter. I don't know
> >where I got the idea. Raised in North Carolina, I
> >attended southern Baptist and Methodist churches as a
> >child, and I don't remember mention of potters or
> >pottery... Still, im my mind's eye God bending over to
> >scoop up a handful of red Carolina clay and forming a
> >Mr Bill-type man never quite leaves.
> >
> >I know I'll enjoy rereading and sharing your post.
> >
> >Kathy
> >--- BVCuma wrote:
> > > ancient hindu nursery rhyme
> > > __________________
> > >
> > > god is a potter and he's ok,
> > > sleeps by night
> > > and potters all day.
> > >
> > > god is a potter,
> > > brahma is his name:
> > > inside his belly is a very hot flame.
> > > once in a while
> > > the world falls in,
> > > then he starts all over again.
> > >
> > > he's a divine drunkard
> > > and its no shame,
> > > cause that's the reason
> > > no two pieces are the same.
> > > _______________
> > >
> > > "Pottery is a very meditative work
> > > and can help in centering.
> > > You may not have looked at it that way,
> > > but anything to do with the hands is good.
> > > Anything like pottery can
> > > become an inner source of centering.
> > > Outside, you go on centering the pot,
> > > and inside, you go on centering yourself.
> > > It is one of the most beautiful things a man can do.
> > > In India we concieve of God as a potter.
> > > In all the Indian scriptures they say that
> > > the world is like a pot and God is the potter.
> > > You must have heard the word 'brahma'.
> > > Brahma means the potter, the creator of the world."
> > >
> > > "It is a meditative process that can be
> > > transformed almost into a ritual.
> > > You can move into prayer and meditation through it."
> > >
> > > Osho
> > >
> > >
>
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Kathy Steinsberger on mon 4 mar 02
Osho,
Thank you for sending in your poems. I thought they
were wonderful and I've printed them so I can write
them in a book I keep for thoughts, lists, and things
to remember.
I too always pictured God as a potter. I don't know
where I got the idea. Raised in North Carolina, I
attended southern Baptist and Methodist churches as a
child, and I don't remember mention of potters or
pottery... Still, im my mind's eye God bending over to
scoop up a handful of red Carolina clay and forming a
Mr Bill-type man never quite leaves.
I know I'll enjoy rereading and sharing your post.
Kathy
--- BVCuma wrote:
> ancient hindu nursery rhyme
> __________________
>
> god is a potter and he's ok,
> sleeps by night
> and potters all day.
>
> god is a potter,
> brahma is his name:
> inside his belly is a very hot flame.
> once in a while
> the world falls in,
> then he starts all over again.
>
> he's a divine drunkard
> and its no shame,
> cause that's the reason
> no two pieces are the same.
> _______________
>
> "Pottery is a very meditative work
> and can help in centering.
> You may not have looked at it that way,
> but anything to do with the hands is good.
> Anything like pottery can
> become an inner source of centering.
> Outside, you go on centering the pot,
> and inside, you go on centering yourself.
> It is one of the most beautiful things a man can do.
> In India we concieve of God as a potter.
> In all the Indian scriptures they say that
> the world is like a pot and God is the potter.
> You must have heard the word 'brahma'.
> Brahma means the potter, the creator of the world."
>
> "It is a meditative process that can be
> transformed almost into a ritual.
> You can move into prayer and meditation through it."
>
> Osho
>
>
______________________________________________________________________________
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Freewheeling Pottery
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Pittsburgh, PA 15232
or:
7909 Tulip Circle
Raleigh, NC 27606
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Jeremy McLeod on mon 4 mar 02
A playwright by the name of Norman Dietz has written
a wonderful fable, "Old Ymir's Clay Pot". It's a metaphoric
take on themes of creation, fall, and redemption in with a Christian
flavor. It's published in a collection of Dietz's plays called
"Fables, Vaudevilles, and Plays" (or something like that).
Written, I believe, in the '60's, it may seem a little dated these
daze (sic), but the language flows with the rhythms of elders
telling the generative tales of a community.
Jeremy McLeod
Roland Beevor on mon 4 mar 02
At the risk of preaching:
then the LORD God formed man of dust from the ground, Genesis 2,7.
Of course God was a potter, even by Mel's definition.
Roly Beevor
Kathy Steinsberger
wrote:
>I too always pictured God as a potter. I don't know
>where I got the idea. Raised in North Carolina, I
>attended southern Baptist and Methodist churches as a
>child, and I don't remember mention of potters or
>pottery... Still, im my mind's eye God bending over to
>scoop up a handful of red Carolina clay and forming a
>Mr Bill-type man never quite leaves.
>
Snail Scott on mon 4 mar 02
At 07:06 AM 3/4/02 -0800, you wrote:
>I too always pictured God as a potter.
Anyone remember the Far Side cartoon titled "God
Creates the Snake"? God is standing at a table with
a box marked 'clay', and is rolling out coils one
after another, saying, "Hey, these things are a
cinch!"
(Yep, even God uses boxed clay! I guess since he'd
only created the earth a few days earlier, there
wasn't time to let it age properly. Good thing he
could just call Laguna!) ;)
-Snail
Carole Rishel on mon 4 mar 02
Somewhere in the Bible (I think) it talks about God being the potter and =
we are the clay. =20
=20
----- Original Message -----
From: Kathy Steinsberger
Sent: Monday, March 04, 2002 9:14 AM
To: CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG
Subject: Re: God is a Potter
=20
Osho,
Thank you for sending in your poems. I thought they
were wonderful and I've printed them so I can write
them in a book I keep for thoughts, lists, and things
to remember.
I too always pictured God as a potter. I don't know
where I got the idea. Raised in North Carolina, I
attended southern Baptist and Methodist churches as a
child, and I don't remember mention of potters or
pottery... Still, im my mind's eye God bending over to
scoop up a handful of red Carolina clay and forming a
Mr Bill-type man never quite leaves.
I know I'll enjoy rereading and sharing your post.
Kathy
--- BVCuma wrote:
> ancient hindu nursery rhyme
> __________________
>
> god is a potter and he's ok,
> sleeps by night
> and potters all day.
>
> god is a potter,
> brahma is his name:
> inside his belly is a very hot flame.
> once in a while
> the world falls in,
> then he starts all over again.
>
> he's a divine drunkard
> and its no shame,
> cause that's the reason
> no two pieces are the same.
> _______________
>
> "Pottery is a very meditative work
> and can help in centering.
> You may not have looked at it that way,
> but anything to do with the hands is good.
> Anything like pottery can
> become an inner source of centering.
> Outside, you go on centering the pot,
> and inside, you go on centering yourself.
> It is one of the most beautiful things a man can do.
> In India we concieve of God as a potter.
> In all the Indian scriptures they say that
> the world is like a pot and God is the potter.
> You must have heard the word 'brahma'.
> Brahma means the potter, the creator of the world."
>
> "It is a meditative process that can be
> transformed almost into a ritual.
> You can move into prayer and meditation through it."
>
> Osho
>
>
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Pittsburgh, PA 15232
or:
7909 Tulip Circle
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hallelujahman pottery on mon 4 mar 02
pottery is mentioned several times in Isaiah and Jeremiah as well as
Corinthians. I can be more specific if you like contact me at
hallelujahman_pottery@yahoo.com
>From: Carole Rishel
>Reply-To: Ceramic Arts Discussion List
>To: CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG
>Subject: Re: God is a Potter
>Date: Mon, 4 Mar 2002 11:16:41 -0600
>
>Somewhere in the Bible (I think) it talks about God being the potter and we
>are the clay.
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: Kathy Steinsberger
>Sent: Monday, March 04, 2002 9:14 AM
>To: CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG
>Subject: Re: God is a Potter
>
>Osho,
>Thank you for sending in your poems. I thought they
>were wonderful and I've printed them so I can write
>them in a book I keep for thoughts, lists, and things
>to remember.
>
>I too always pictured God as a potter. I don't know
>where I got the idea. Raised in North Carolina, I
>attended southern Baptist and Methodist churches as a
>child, and I don't remember mention of potters or
>pottery... Still, im my mind's eye God bending over to
>scoop up a handful of red Carolina clay and forming a
>Mr Bill-type man never quite leaves.
>
>I know I'll enjoy rereading and sharing your post.
>
>Kathy
>--- BVCuma wrote:
> > ancient hindu nursery rhyme
> > __________________
> >
> > god is a potter and he's ok,
> > sleeps by night
> > and potters all day.
> >
> > god is a potter,
> > brahma is his name:
> > inside his belly is a very hot flame.
> > once in a while
> > the world falls in,
> > then he starts all over again.
> >
> > he's a divine drunkard
> > and its no shame,
> > cause that's the reason
> > no two pieces are the same.
> > _______________
> >
> > "Pottery is a very meditative work
> > and can help in centering.
> > You may not have looked at it that way,
> > but anything to do with the hands is good.
> > Anything like pottery can
> > become an inner source of centering.
> > Outside, you go on centering the pot,
> > and inside, you go on centering yourself.
> > It is one of the most beautiful things a man can do.
> > In India we concieve of God as a potter.
> > In all the Indian scriptures they say that
> > the world is like a pot and God is the potter.
> > You must have heard the word 'brahma'.
> > Brahma means the potter, the creator of the world."
> >
> > "It is a meditative process that can be
> > transformed almost into a ritual.
> > You can move into prayer and meditation through it."
> >
> > Osho
> >
> >
>______________________________________________________________________________
> > Send postings to clayart@lsv.ceramics.org
> >
> > You may look at the archives for the list or change
> > your subscription
> > settings from http://www.ceramics.org/clayart/
> >
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> > reached at melpots@pclink.com.
>
>
>=====
>Kathy Steinsberger,
>Freewheeling Pottery
>5817 Holden St.
>Pittsburgh, PA 15232
>or:
>7909 Tulip Circle
>Raleigh, NC 27606
>
>__________________________________________________
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chris clarke on mon 4 mar 02
Snail said
"Anyone remember the Far Side cartoon titled "God
Creates the Snake"? God is standing at a table with
a box marked 'clay', and is rolling out coils one
after another, saying, "Hey, these things are a
cinch!"
Did ya' ever notice some snakes are kind of flat? =20
Don't you hate when that happens
chris
temecula, california
chris@ccpots.com
www.ccpots.com
John Jensen on mon 4 mar 02
I had that cartoon enlarged and posted in the classroom. I always pointed
it out at the beginning of the class for learning about coil construction.
I love that cartoon.
Snail said
"Anyone remember the Far Side cartoon titled "God
Creates the Snake"? God is standing at a table with
a box marked 'clay', and is rolling out coils one
after another, saying, "Hey, these things are a
cinch!"
John Jensen, Mudbug Pottery, Annapolis
mudbug@toad.net, Toadhouse.com
Jim Tabor on mon 4 mar 02
Some years ago a Dallas potter having hand problems had me fill in for her at a
church service throwing at my wheel in front of the congregation while the Priest
read a story about God as a potter written by the Priest. The printed program had
the story and Bible passages. I had to make forms that were less than perfect so
they could be balled up and rewedged at the wheel during parts of the story. I
think the message was to illustrate that God would not discard man for his
imperfections but give hope for a better life.
I won't go into clay as a life form but the clay life theory is in the archives
and on the net as one of the theorys for the origins of life on earth. Interseting
stuff to ponder.
jt
http://home.earthlink.net/~taborj/index.html
hallelujahman pottery wrote:
> pottery is mentioned several times in Isaiah and Jeremiah as well as
> Corinthians. I can be more specific if you like contact me at
> hallelujahman_pottery@yahoo.com
>
> >From: Carole Rishel
> >Reply-To: Ceramic Arts Discussion List
> >To: CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG
> >Subject: Re: God is a Potter
> >Date: Mon, 4 Mar 2002 11:16:41 -0600
> >
> >Somewhere in the Bible (I think) it talks about God being the potter and we
> >are the clay.
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: Kathy Steinsberger
> >Sent: Monday, March 04, 2002 9:14 AM
> >To: CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG
> >Subject: Re: God is a Potter
> >
> >Osho,
> >Thank you for sending in your poems. I thought they
> >were wonderful and I've printed them so I can write
> >them in a book I keep for thoughts, lists, and things
> >to remember.
> >
> >I too always pictured God as a potter. I don't know
> >where I got the idea. Raised in North Carolina, I
> >attended southern Baptist and Methodist churches as a
> >child, and I don't remember mention of potters or
> >pottery... Still, im my mind's eye God bending over to
> >scoop up a handful of red Carolina clay and forming a
> >Mr Bill-type man never quite leaves.
> >
> >I know I'll enjoy rereading and sharing your post.
> >
> >Kathy
> >--- BVCuma wrote:
> > > ancient hindu nursery rhyme
> > > __________________
> > >
> > > god is a potter and he's ok,
> > > sleeps by night
> > > and potters all day.
> > >
> > > god is a potter,
> > > brahma is his name:
> > > inside his belly is a very hot flame.
> > > once in a while
> > > the world falls in,
> > > then he starts all over again.
> > >
> > > he's a divine drunkard
> > > and its no shame,
> > > cause that's the reason
> > > no two pieces are the same.
> > > _______________
> > >
> > > "Pottery is a very meditative work
> > > and can help in centering.
> > > You may not have looked at it that way,
> > > but anything to do with the hands is good.
> > > Anything like pottery can
> > > become an inner source of centering.
> > > Outside, you go on centering the pot,
> > > and inside, you go on centering yourself.
> > > It is one of the most beautiful things a man can do.
> > > In India we concieve of God as a potter.
> > > In all the Indian scriptures they say that
> > > the world is like a pot and God is the potter.
> > > You must have heard the word 'brahma'.
> > > Brahma means the potter, the creator of the world."
> > >
> > > "It is a meditative process that can be
> > > transformed almost into a ritual.
> > > You can move into prayer and meditation through it."
> > >
> > > Osho
> > >
> > >
> >______________________________________________________________________________
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> > > reached at melpots@pclink.com.
> >
> >
> >=====
> >Kathy Steinsberger,
> >Freewheeling Pottery
> >5817 Holden St.
> >Pittsburgh, PA 15232
> >or:
> >7909 Tulip Circle
> >Raleigh, NC 27606
> >
> >__________________________________________________
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Paul & Kathy Greaves on wed 6 mar 02
I pulled out my concordance and found that there are many verses casting God
as a potter in the Bible. Isaiah uses it three times, plus Jeremiah and
Paul's letter to the Romans. No wonder I feel so creative (and sometimes
overwhelmed) when sitting at the wheel with a new lump of clay!
Kathy Greaves
>>Date: Mon, 4 Mar 2002 11:16:41 -0600
From: Carole Rishel
Subject: Re: God is a Potter
Somewhere in the Bible (I think) it talks about God being the potter and =
we are the clay. <<
joseph carames on thu 7 mar 02
There was a song from the fifties which was something to the effect of
"he took a hundred pounds of clay...." the"HE" being God.
something about creating a woman the woman who the singer is reflecting
on.
> >I too always pictured God as a potter.
>
>
> Anyone remember the Far Side cartoon titled "God
> Creates the Snake"? God is standing at a table with
> a box marked 'clay', and is rolling out coils one
> after another, saying, "Hey, these things are a
> cinch!"
>
> (Yep, even God uses boxed clay! I guess since he'd
> only created the earth a few days earlier, there
> wasn't time to let it age properly. Good thing he
> could just call Laguna!) ;)
>
> -Snail
>
>
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