Elizabeth Hewitt on wed 13 mar 02
Ok, are all the gurus gone to NCECA? I want to share something but I
don't want THOSE guys to think I'm a dabbler or something worse. ;-)
I just learned how to fire my kiln down and it only took me 4 1/2 years
and the help of John Hesselberth to do it. Now aren't you all impressed?
To tell you the truth, I didn't know my "Select Fire" had the
capability. The manual said it did, but didn't bother to tell how to do
it. And I, not being a rocket scientist, thought I was just reading it
wrong and didn't bother to call the company to ask. Yesterday I put it
to the test and TADA..it worked. Usually the thing jumps from 2100+ to
1300 in about a half hour. 'Course now I have to grieve over all the
glazes that could have been SOOOOO much better and I'm not totally out
of the woods yet, since it won't be time to open the sucker for several
more hours.
Mums the word, okay?
Elizabeth, feeling like SUCH a novice, in the night drinking hot lemon
and honey brew and still hacking like mad. Maybe I should have thrown
something stronger in that brew. :)
elizabeth01@alltel.net
Alan D. Scott on wed 13 mar 02
Elizabeth:
Don't worry, you're safe among us dabbler claybuds who don't have the big
bucks and time off to go to KC. Perhaps we need a ClayDabbler listserv ???
:-) :-) :-)
Alan
Anji Henderson on wed 13 mar 02
Ok yes from last night to tonight I only got 15
posts... Lurkers unite!!! Start !! Post all those
questions you wrote off as being silly or novice....
It your time now... Plus I need more then 15 posts to
drink my coffee in the morning!!
Anji
--- Elizabeth Hewitt wrote:
> Ok, are all the gurus gone to NCECA? I want to
> share something but I
> don't want THOSE guys to think I'm a dabbler or
> something worse. ;-)
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pammyam on wed 13 mar 02
Elizabeth and Alan,
I like to think of myself as a Clay Dilettante. :-)
: Elizabeth:
:
: Don't worry, you're safe among us dabbler claybuds who
don't have the big
: bucks and time off to go to KC. Perhaps we need a
ClayDabbler listserv ???
: :-) :-) :-)
:
: Alan
:
:
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Crosby, Niki on wed 13 mar 02
oh that would be terrific - I wouldnt feel so intimidated about bothering
all these professionals with my newbie questions!
From: Alan D. Scott [mailto:n9bac@EARTHLINK.NET]
Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2002 8:40 AM
To: CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG
Subject: Re: OK, is it safe?
Elizabeth:
Don't worry, you're safe among us dabbler claybuds who don't have the big
bucks and time off to go to KC. Perhaps we need a ClayDabbler listserv ???
:-) :-) :-)
Alan
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L. P. Skeen on wed 13 mar 02
rofl. NCECA is definitely an expensive event, between hotel and food,
transportation if you're not local, and then all the POTTERY TOOLS AND BOOKS
to buy.......oy vey!
L
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From: "Alan D. Scott"
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Subject: Re: OK, is it safe?
> Elizabeth:
>
> Don't worry, you're safe among us dabbler claybuds who don't have the big
> bucks and time off to go to KC. Perhaps we need a ClayDabbler listserv
???
> :-) :-) :-)
>
> Alan
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Steve Mills on thu 14 mar 02
Well done Elizabeth.
As an aside; we've ALL been there. Anyone who says they haven't, Guru's
included, is telling porky pies (Rhyming slang: lies).
Steve
Bath
UK
With a best mate at KC and wishing he could Teleport there.
In message , Elizabeth Hewitt writes
>Ok, are all the gurus gone to NCECA? I want to share something but I
>don't want THOSE guys to think I'm a dabbler or something worse. ;-)
>
>I just learned how to fire my kiln down and it only took me 4 1/2 years
>and the help of John Hesselberth to do it. Now aren't you all impressed?
>To tell you the truth, I didn't know my "Select Fire" had the
>capability. The manual said it did, but didn't bother to tell how to do
>it. And I, not being a rocket scientist, thought I was just reading it
>wrong and didn't bother to call the company to ask. Yesterday I put it
>to the test and TADA..it worked. Usually the thing jumps from 2100+ to
>1300 in about a half hour. 'Course now I have to grieve over all the
>glazes that could have been SOOOOO much better and I'm not totally out
>of the woods yet, since it won't be time to open the sucker for several
>more hours.
>
>Mums the word, okay?
>
>Elizabeth, feeling like SUCH a novice, in the night drinking hot lemon
>and honey brew and still hacking like mad. Maybe I should have thrown
>something stronger in that brew. :)
>elizabeth01@alltel.net
--
Steve Mills
Bath
UK
chris clarke on thu 14 mar 02
Poor Mel is never going to live down that word.
But I don't think anyone should worry about asking 'stupid' questions. =
The only stupid question is one you didn't ask when you had the =
opportunity. Many of us my feel goofy because some of the basics eluded =
us at one point or another. I've been potting for over ten years, Mel =
made me realize how I had over looked clay as the basic component of =
pottery.
Ask away, ask anything. Sometimes the gurus get all scientific and =
round about in their answers but they mean well. We can over look that =
can't we .
So what exactly are the basic ingredients of stoneware? Must I always =
fire down for a matt glaze? Does putting oxides in slip instead of on =
bisqueware make them safe under the glaze? Why can I only get really =
good carbon trapping when it's on the verge of raining?=20
Real questions, serious.
chris
who has a new dog, yes the stray. Amee, she's a yellow dog which my =
uncle says makes her a good dog. Already heals and runs at my side on =
a leash. Poor thing is 15 or 20 pounds underweight, she's all caved in =
on the sides, but I'll fix it. Vet says she's healthy and we got her =
shots. Got to get some flea shampoo and bath her, she's been stray for =
a while.
temecula, california
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www.ccpots.com
Dewitt on thu 14 mar 02
At 08:14 3/14/02 -0800, you wrote:
>So what exactly are the basic ingredients of stoneware?
Per Rhodes: "Stoneware clays are plastic clays which mature or become
vitreous at 1200 to 1300 C. The classification really hinges upon the
possible use of the clay in ceramics, rather than upon the actual chemical
or physical nature of the clay or its geologic origins.
A stoneware clay body might include a high percentage of a stoneware clay,
some ball clay for plasticity, and some flint and feldspar to adjust the
firing temperature. Maybe some grog as well.
An interesting "fun fact" noted in Rhodes' "Clay and Glazes for the Potter"
is that average chemical analysis for the earth as a whole is approximately
equal to the analysis for common red earthenware clay.
> Must I always fire down for a matt glaze?
No, you can pretty much just underfire any glaze. :-)
In good matt glazes, the effect is caused by the development of small
crystals. These crystals develop in the cooling phase and require some
time to develop - therefore the need to fire down in a kiln that otherwise
cool quickly.
> Does putting oxides in slip instead of on bisqueware make them safe
> under the glaze?
Maybe, and maybe not. The only way to really tell is to have leach testing
done.
>Why can I only get really good carbon trapping when it's on the verge of
>raining?
I don't have a clue. Perhaps you are getting better (and earlier?)
reduction when the humidity is high.
dewitt
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Elizabeth Hewitt on thu 14 mar 02
Of course I was just being a wise guy/gal when I posted that, but I do
think we are using this time wisely while the group is somewhat smaller.
Geeeesh, maybe we'll get so smart the NCECA'ers won't recognize us when
they get back. ;-)
Here's a thing I've thought about before, but mind you, I'm not
volunteering here. We are encouraged to search the archives for answers
before we ask on the list and I don't have a problem with that. But many
times when I've used the archives, I've waded through reams of emails
and never do find the answer. Since it would take way more time than
anyone has to give, to sort out the information in those emails and
compile just the information, it's not a practical idea. But, I think
it's helpful when ones on the list give a reference in a book or one of
the magazines. I suspect that most of us have lots of pottery books or
clay magazines or access to them, it seems more direct. I guess each has
their own good purpose.
And, yes, Cat, they are still making little girls. We finally have a
granddaughter after four grandsons.all in the same family. And I liked
your comments about being a slob. I was always somewhat bothered
because I'm almost too meticulous in some areas and just a total slob in
others.............until I discovered pottery (ok, I didn't actually
discover discover pottery) I learned that in pottery, I'm meticulous is
just the right areas and a slob where it serves best. My personality was
designed to be a potter. YES!!!
And to Eleanor, TGM, I'm The MomberGomber to my kids. ;-)
Elizabeth, going back to the mudroom to become meticulous in the things
she was a slob about this morning.
Earl Brunner on thu 14 mar 02
Hey, have you guys ever heard Jeff Foxworthy tell those jokes about
rednecks?
"You might be a redneck if......."
How about starting a
"You might be a potter if......." thread? (You know, instead of a
dabbler thread)We could have fun with it instead of all that heavy stuff
the last couple of weeks. (Now remember this is supposed to be fun, not
serious, so don't get mad).
You might be a potter if:
You think dressing up means putting on a tie,
(whether or not theres clay on the rest of your clothes).
You might be a potter if you think having a good time means looking at
back issues of Ceramics Monthly.
You might be a potter if you'd pay $50.00 for a trimming tool.
--- Elizabeth Hewitt wrote:
> Ok, are all the gurus gone to NCECA? I want to
> share something but I
> don't want THOSE guys to think I'm a dabbler or
> something worse. ;-)
=====
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-Fred Babb
Earl Brunner
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http://coyote.accessnv.com/bruec
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Crosby, Niki on thu 14 mar 02
whats a dabbler?
-----Original Message-----
From: Earl Brunner [mailto:bruec@ANV.NET]
Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2002 2:17 PM
To: CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG
Subject: Re: OK, is it safe?
Hey, have you guys ever heard Jeff Foxworthy tell those jokes about
rednecks?
"You might be a redneck if......."
How about starting a
"You might be a potter if......." thread? (You know, instead of a
dabbler thread)We could have fun with it instead of all that heavy stuff
the last couple of weeks. (Now remember this is supposed to be fun, not
serious, so don't get mad).
You might be a potter if:
You think dressing up means putting on a tie,
(whether or not theres clay on the rest of your clothes).
You might be a potter if you think having a good time means looking at
back issues of Ceramics Monthly.
You might be a potter if you'd pay $50.00 for a trimming tool.
--- Elizabeth Hewitt wrote:
> Ok, are all the gurus gone to NCECA? I want to
> share something but I
> don't want THOSE guys to think I'm a dabbler or
> something worse. ;-)
=====
Good art does not have to match your sofa!!
-Fred Babb
Earl Brunner
mailto:bruec@anv.net
http://coyote.accessnv.com/bruec
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Katheleen Nez on tue 19 mar 02
You guys crack me up! Gurus...
The 1st NCECA I attended was Denver in 2000, because
my gallery owner was too afraid to drive through Raton
Pass in the ice. I took the bus up and used his pass.
Camped on a friend's floor. One thing you get to know
lots of times at NCECA are the local transit
schedules. Thursday & Friday were the most beautiful
days sofar that March in Denver (hi 60s). 1st met John
Neely & a passel of Koreans (big show @Indigos,
contemp. Korean & Chinese potters), Paul ('You're the
woman who keeps sending me stuff') Soldner & his
daughter Stephanie (very nice), Robin Hopper (we had
previously only communicated by email, when he put me
in Clay & Glazes 3rd ed.), John Glick, Janet
Mansfield, Julia Galloway. Reconnected with Jun & his
wife (he shows in SF). Most memorable moment was John
Glick jumping up & playing air guitar onstage at the
dance.
The 2nd NCECA (in Charlotte) I just happened to have
tax $(not $$, not even $$$) and have never been to the
South (great motivating factor). Took comfortable
shoes because I Walked Everywhere (also had foresight
to bring $3 umbrella from WallyWorld). Cheep room. No
memorable food (however benevolent gallery owner took
me to dinner Fri. nite lots of brown sugar in beans,
rice, ribs sauce, cornbread) 1st met John Hesselberth
(his lecture was packed); reconnected w/Cynthia
Bringle (where I was dubbed Lazy Potter because I
sometimes use prefab cane handles). Never met up with
any of the NC potters I met in Denver (but somehow
that makes sense).
There's also some obscure rightness to the fact
there's a great Irish pub right next door to the Mint
Museum (I hear they lunch there often).
All in all, NCECA can be done on the cheep. Great
minds and new beginners and educators in the mix. All
of us with our hands (and our minds) in the
mud...(psst.get the nceca journal when it comes out,
you'll see what i mean)
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