Janet Kaiser on fri 15 mar 02
As a matter of interest, why are folk at home and not at NCECA? Was it
too far to travel, do you have other commitments, day job, kids or
family to care for, too much work, wrong time of year... Or was it
just too expensive? Travel as well as hotel and NCECA fees just too
much?
Well, I could not take part because it would take too much time out of
my life, is too far, too expensive with travel, hotel, fees included
and too stressful... It has taken several weeks of organisation to
take a day off tomorrow! AND I feel as guilty as hell about going.
Made enough food to feed an army whilst away 24 hrs... Guilt thing. I
even did some cleaning just in case I never return... Another guilt
thing.
No matter where in the USA it would be difficult for me personally
speaking, but why not arrange a Clay Art conference? Somewhere easy
for everyone... Say nearest the highest density of Clay Art
subscribers... Probably California? Or at a city with good direct
transportation routes and cheap hotel deals, etc. I bet there are
enough professionals on Clay Art to make really interesting programmes
similar to NCECA... In a conference centre, somewhere out of season?
But would any of the stay-at-homes be able to attend even then? Or is
it just wishful thinking?
Janet Kaiser
The Chapel of Art / Capel Celfyddyd
Home of The International Potters' Path
8 Marine Crescent : Criccieth : GB-Wales
URL: http://www.the-coa.org.uk
postbox@the-coa.org.uk
iandol on sat 16 mar 02
Dear Janet Kaiser,
You suggest for a meeting of Calyarters that we congregate <the highest density of Clay Art subscribers... Probably California? Or =
at a city with good direct transportation routes and cheap hotel deals, =
etc>>
May I suggest Adelaide, South Australia. With the rate of exchange on =
the $Au as it stands they would all make a profit. Halve the costs of =
hotels, air fairs etc. All the facilities and the wines as well.
Best regards,
Ivor Lewis. Redhill, South Australia
Wilson on sun 17 mar 02
If we are making suggestions, why not Vancouver, BC, Canada? Closer than Australia, cheep cheep cheep to you 'mericans, what with our lower dollar etc. And accessible to more Canadian content.
my $.02
Kate Wilson
iandol wrote:
> Dear Janet Kaiser,
>
> You suggest for a meeting of Calyarters that we congregate <>
>
> May I suggest Adelaide, South Australia. With the rate of exchange on the $Au as it stands they would all make a profit. Halve the costs of hotels, air fairs etc. All the facilities and the wines as well.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Ivor Lewis. Redhill, South Australia
>
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No! No! No!
I won't go back in the box!!!
Les Crimp on sun 17 mar 02
Ivor -
I'm with Kate Wilson on this one. Vancouver, B.C. is the place to be. The
hotels, restaurants, skiiing, water skiiing, windsurfing, pottery and more
pottery...... and the home province of world class wines.
Also access to the worlds #2 Island Vacation Destination... our own Island
in the Pacific. If you visit Vancouver Island while you are here for a
Clayart Convention you will be able to visit Robin Hopper, Wayne Ngan,
Gordon Hutchens and many more world calss potters. Our Island is probably
the "hotbed" of potters in Canada.
My $0.02 along with Kate's.
Les Crimp on that Island in the Pacific.
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vince pitelka on sun 17 mar 02
You wrote"
> "If we are making suggestions, why not Vancouver, BC, Canada? Closer than
Australia, cheep cheep cheep to you 'mericans, what with our lower dollar
etc. And accessible to more Canadian content."
This is such an incredibly odd discussion. If you are going to take time
away from your studio, and pay to go somewhere and stay in a hotel, why in
the world wouldn't you just go to NCECA and have a big Clayart gathering
there?
Best wishes -
- Vince
Vince Pitelka
Appalachian Center for Crafts
Tennessee Technological University
1560 Craft Center Drive, Smithville TN 37166
Home - vpitelka@dtccom.net
615/597-5376
Work - wpitelka@tntech.edu
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Earl Brunner on mon 18 mar 02
You know, I went to two things that I needed my registration for. The vendor
exhibits and the opening event on Wednesday night. The rest of the time was spent
in the clayart room and going to galleries and looking at pots. You could have
done all of that for free. And in my book it would have been worth it.
Michele Williams wrote:
> Vince,
>
> We're not talking about something with $150 registration fees or the
> biggest, fanciest hotels. We're talking about something even the hobbyist
> with kids and no steady market can afford. My mother lives in Kansas City,
> and my room would have cost me $0. Transportation from Miami would have
> been free because I have a free frequent flyer ticket. I still couldn't
> afford to go. That's the picture for more than a few of us. Now you
> understand why we don't "just go to NCECA". Blood can't pay the costs, or
> we'd have been there..
>
> Michele Williams
> Sad that I couldn't go but REALLY glad you could!
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "vince pitelka"
> To:
> Sent: Sunday, March 17, 2002 8:48 PM
> Subject: Re: NCECA stay-at-homes
>
> > You wrote"
> > > "If we are making suggestions, why not Vancouver, BC, Canada? Closer
> than
> > Australia, cheep cheep cheep to you 'mericans, what with our lower dollar
> > etc. And accessible to more Canadian content."
> >
> > This is such an incredibly odd discussion. If you are going to take time
> > away from your studio, and pay to go somewhere and stay in a hotel, why in
> > the world wouldn't you just go to NCECA and have a big Clayart gathering
> > there?
> > Best wishes -
> > - Vince
> >
> > Vince Pitelka
> > Appalachian Center for Crafts
> > Tennessee Technological University
> > 1560 Craft Center Drive, Smithville TN 37166
> > Home - vpitelka@dtccom.net
> > 615/597-5376
> > Work - wpitelka@tntech.edu
> > 615/597-6801 ext. 111, fax 615/597-6803
> > http://www.craftcenter.tntech.edu/
> >
> >
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Les Crimp on mon 18 mar 02
Vince -
Possibly incredibly odd to those that can get to NCECA but there are many
others.
As a matter of discussion, what are we discussing - NCECA or a Clayart
Convention? For those that cannot afford to go to NCECA imagine the added
expense of adding another convention at the same time.
I would love to get to either but I don't think I could justify the expense
of two meetings at the same time. And would there not be something lost
from both by trying to cram the two together?
Just a couple of thoughts from the Great Northwest Rainforest.
Les Crimp on that Island in the Pacific.
lcrimp@shaw.ca
www.arrowsmithpottersguild.bc.ca
Jennifer F Boyer on mon 18 mar 02
I've only been to 2 NCECA's but I think the Clayart room blends
incredibly well with the event. You get to go around to the
exhibits with Claybuds! And break bread with Claybuds. And
rest up (between long walks around town) in the Clayart room
with Claybuds. Having a Clayart convention would mean most
people would have to choose between NCECA and Clayart every
year. I know I wouldn't have the time or money for both. NCECA
was 170.00 this year. A BARGAIN. It's really like going to a
whole bunch of workshops. I never have gotten to all the events
that interested me in the schedule. There's too much to do!
Something for everyone. And more pots to look at than you would
see in a year, normally. You get your money's worth. Plus all
the freebies and discounts from the suppliers. If you are prompt
in signing up you can get a good deal on a hotel room, since
NCECA gets a group discount.
Also if time is an issue, you can go to NCECA for as many days
as you want. I see Clayart/NCECA as a two-for-one kind of thing.....
I do like the idea of regional get togethers..easier to arrange,
without hotel stays
JMHO
Jennifer
Les Crimp wrote:
>
> Vince -
>
> Possibly incredibly odd to those that can get to NCECA but there are many
> others.
>
> As a matter of discussion, what are we discussing - NCECA or a Clayart
> Convention? For those that cannot afford to go to NCECA imagine the added
> expense of adding another convention at the same time.
>
> I would love to get to either but I don't think I could justify the expense
> of two meetings at the same time. And would there not be something lost
> from both by trying to cram the two together?
> Just a couple of thoughts from the Great Northwest Rainforest.
>
> Les Crimp on that Island in the Pacific.
> lcrimp@shaw.ca
> www.arrowsmithpottersguild.bc.ca
>
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Michele Williams on mon 18 mar 02
Vince,
We're not talking about something with $150 registration fees or the
biggest, fanciest hotels. We're talking about something even the hobbyist
with kids and no steady market can afford. My mother lives in Kansas City,
and my room would have cost me $0. Transportation from Miami would have
been free because I have a free frequent flyer ticket. I still couldn't
afford to go. That's the picture for more than a few of us. Now you
understand why we don't "just go to NCECA". Blood can't pay the costs, or
we'd have been there..
Michele Williams
Sad that I couldn't go but REALLY glad you could!
----- Original Message -----
From: "vince pitelka"
To:
Sent: Sunday, March 17, 2002 8:48 PM
Subject: Re: NCECA stay-at-homes
> You wrote"
> > "If we are making suggestions, why not Vancouver, BC, Canada? Closer
than
> Australia, cheep cheep cheep to you 'mericans, what with our lower dollar
> etc. And accessible to more Canadian content."
>
> This is such an incredibly odd discussion. If you are going to take time
> away from your studio, and pay to go somewhere and stay in a hotel, why in
> the world wouldn't you just go to NCECA and have a big Clayart gathering
> there?
> Best wishes -
> - Vince
>
> Vince Pitelka
> Appalachian Center for Crafts
> Tennessee Technological University
> 1560 Craft Center Drive, Smithville TN 37166
> Home - vpitelka@dtccom.net
> 615/597-5376
> Work - wpitelka@tntech.edu
> 615/597-6801 ext. 111, fax 615/597-6803
> http://www.craftcenter.tntech.edu/
>
>
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iandol on mon 18 mar 02
Dear Kate Wilson,
If you want to use the Dollar exchange rate as bait, then, of the =
English speaking lands, it would have to be held in New Zealand, Land of =
the Hobbit Potters. Now how many of you would like to go there for a =
workshop or four and learn how to make those LOTR pots.
Best regards,
Ivor Lewis. Redhill, south Australia
Michele Williams on tue 19 mar 02
Evil Ivor! "Now how many of you would like to go there (New Zealand) for a
workshop or four and learn how to make those LOTR pots."
Suggesting wonderful trips. Tempting us to throw ourselves onto planes and
into spasms of delightful ceramics visions on trips we've only dreamed of!
Sure! I'd like to go anywhere in the world if I had free money! (But
thanks for the invitation, Ivor. I've always wanted to go to Australia and
New Zealand. I may get to dream of it all my life.)
Michele Williams
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iandol on wed 20 mar 02
Dear Michele
Touche.
I keep saying I will go to that big American shindig but, as you say, no =
free cash.
All the best,
Ivor.
vince pitelka on wed 20 mar 02
> I would love to get to either but I don't think I could justify the
expense
> of two meetings at the same time. And would there not be something lost
> from both by trying to cram the two together?
> Just a couple of thoughts from the Great Northwest Rainforest.
Les -
My comment is motivated by wanting to see even more Clayarters attend NCECA,
because it is such a wonderful gathering. There is so much to gain from it.
I hate to see anyone settle for an "either/or" situation. If they were
combined, it would be affordable to do both in one shot. Very odd to
characterize that as "cram the two together."
Best wishes -
- Vince
Vince Pitelka
Appalachian Center for Crafts
Tennessee Technological University
1560 Craft Center Drive, Smithville TN 37166
Home - vpitelka@dtccom.net
615/597-5376
Work - wpitelka@tntech.edu
615/597-6801 ext. 111, fax 615/597-6803
http://www.craftcenter.tntech.edu/
Janet Kaiser on thu 21 mar 02
WARNING:
If Terry Sullivan can get a Clay Art pre-NCECA 2003 "meet" going
through the previous week-end in San Diego next March, HOLD ONTO YOUR
HATS... A whole week would make it a far more interesting and
worthwhile proposition for those real long-haul stay-at-homes not able
to visit family, do workshops and all the other things many do as a
part of or combined with NCECA... ;-)
Janet Kaiser
The Chapel of Art / Capel Celfyddyd
Home of The International Potters' Path
8 Marine Crescent : Criccieth : GB-Wales
URL: http://www.the-coa.org.uk
postbox@the-coa.org.uk
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