Rose Pinkul on thu 14 mar 02
Hi Yall
OK..... we have all these great looking elaborately carved and embossed trays,
wall pockets and casseroles in highwater's Hestia clay and some in P5 porcelain,
bisque fired and ready to glaze (cone 6) ..........but we have no clue as to what
sort of glaze to use that wouldn't cover up the carving and embossing....definately
a newbe situation...
I tried using a blue oxide on the porcelain then a white glaze over that and
it curdled and crawled and generally looked like it had some kind of disease.
Rose :o(
>
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Rose Pinkul
Pinkul Pottery
Phone 828-652-7430
Fax 828-652-2171
Website http://www.pinkul.com
Bruce Girrell on thu 14 mar 02
> I tried using a blue oxide on the porcelain then a white
> glaze over that and
> it curdled and crawled and generally looked like it had some kind
> of disease.
Now, see, if you were making a Teabowl or if you were a Famous Potter you
would raise the price of the pieces to four figures and people would buy
them feeling that they got a bargain for such a Unique Piece.
It sounds as though the glaze did not adhere to the oxide and flaked away
during firing (were there little globs of glaze surrounding your pieces on
the shelves?). Have you tried a transparent glaze (maybe with a little of
the stain/oxide mixed in)? If you have a reliable celadon or similar glaze
it can be used to accent the carving quite nicely.
Bruce "Yabba Dabbler Do" Girrell
Julie Milazzo on thu 14 mar 02
Rose, try this one:
Honey
EPK 5
dolomite 7
gerstley borate 14
spodumene 30
talc 13
silica 20
powdered rutile 6
bentonite 2
It is beautiful on white clay bodies, is a cone six
glaze, and has little vertical streaks of white
ranging to honey shades. It shows off texture, but can
be a little runny. Worth using though. If I do cone
six again, this will be the first glaze I'd make. Good
luck! Jules
--- Rose Pinkul wrote:
> Hi Yall
> OK..... we have all these great looking
> elaborately carved and embossed trays,
> wall pockets and casseroles in highwater's Hestia
> clay and some in P5 porcelain,
> bisque fired and ready to glaze (cone 6)
> ..........but we have no clue as to what
> sort of glaze to use that wouldn't cover up the
> carving and embossing....definately
> a newbe situation...
> I tried using a blue oxide on the porcelain
> then a white glaze over that and
> it curdled and crawled and generally looked like it
> had some kind of disease.
> Rose :o(
>
>
> >
>
> --
> Rose Pinkul
> Pinkul Pottery
> Phone 828-652-7430
> Fax 828-652-2171
> Website http://www.pinkul.com
>
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Camille Morin on thu 14 mar 02
An excellent glaze to use is one called Chun Clear with an addition of 3-6%
copper for a "fake" celedon. It should be applied evenly though (drips and
runs show up darker). Perhaps search for it in the archives or email me off
list and I'll send it (don't have it on me right here). I teach pottery and
we use this at ^6 on P5 and on Ellen Buff.
>From: Rose Pinkul
>Reply-To: Ceramic Arts Discussion List
>To: CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG
>Subject: Re: OK, is it safe? Clayed into a corner
>Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2002 12:36:16 -0500
>
>Hi Yall
> OK..... we have all these great looking elaborately carved and
>embossed trays,
>wall pockets and casseroles in highwater's Hestia clay and some in P5
>porcelain,
>bisque fired and ready to glaze (cone 6) ..........but we have no clue as
>to what
>sort of glaze to use that wouldn't cover up the carving and
>embossing....definately
>a newbe situation...
> I tried using a blue oxide on the porcelain then a white glaze over
>that and
>it curdled and crawled and generally looked like it had some kind of
>disease.
> Rose :o(
>
>
> >
>
>--
> Rose Pinkul
> Pinkul Pottery
> Phone 828-652-7430
> Fax 828-652-2171
> Website http://www.pinkul.com
>
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claybair on thu 14 mar 02
Hi Rose....
Been there done that!
You probably had too much oxide or used it too thickly and that caused the
glaze to crawl.
I use very thin washes of oxides and always mix some of the clay body in it.
I also wipe off most of the wash with a damp sponge. I use transparent
glazes.
On some of my slip carved work, where the design is on the exterior of the
pot I don't use a glaze over the design. If the design is on the interior of
a functional pot I use a transparent glaze. I'm still working on getting it
right.
Gayle Bair
Bainbridge Island, WA
http://claybair.com
Rose wrote>>
Hi Yall
OK..... we have all these great looking elaborately carved and embossed
trays,
wall pockets and casseroles in highwater's Hestia clay and some in P5
porcelain,
bisque fired and ready to glaze (cone 6) ..........but we have no clue as to
what
sort of glaze to use that wouldn't cover up the carving and
embossing....definately
a newbe situation...
I tried using a blue oxide on the porcelain then a white glaze over
that and
it curdled and crawled and generally looked like it had some kind of
disease.
Rose :o(
>
--
Rose Pinkul
Pinkul Pottery
Phone 828-652-7430
Fax 828-652-2171
Website http://www.pinkul.com
Maid O'Mud on thu 14 mar 02
Hi there:
Look up Ron Roy's revised saffire in the archives (I don't have it handy).
Apply medium thick - it breaks very nicely on all edges to green (on white
clay) or black (on dark clay). It isn't fussy about being fired down,
either - at least, not in my kiln!.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Rose Pinkul"
To:
Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2002 12:36 PM
Subject: Re: OK, is it safe? Clayed into a corner
> Hi Yall
> OK..... we have all these great looking elaborately carved and
embossed trays,
> wall pockets and casseroles in highwater's Hestia clay and some in P5
porcelain,
> bisque fired and ready to glaze (cone 6) ..........but we have no clue as
to what
> sort of glaze to use that wouldn't cover up the carving and
embossing....definately
> a newbe situation...
> I tried using a blue oxide on the porcelain then a white glaze over
that and
> it curdled and crawled and generally looked like it had some kind of
disease.
> Rose :o(
Sam - Maid O'Mud Pottery
Melbourne, Ontario CANADA
"First, the clay told me what to do.
Then, I told the clay what to do.
Now, we co-operate."
sam 1994
http://www.ody.ca/~scuttell/
Judith I. Marvin on thu 14 mar 02
Camille - Please send the chun clear/fake celadon recipe. Thanks. Judith
>From: Camille Morin
>Reply-To: Ceramic Arts Discussion List
>To: CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG
>Subject: Re: OK, is it safe? Clayed into a corner
>Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2002 20:43:08 +0000
>
>An excellent glaze to use is one called Chun Clear with an addition of 3-6%
>copper for a "fake" celedon. It should be applied evenly though (drips and
>runs show up darker). Perhaps search for it in the archives or email me
>off
>list and I'll send it (don't have it on me right here). I teach pottery
>and
>we use this at ^6 on P5 and on Ellen Buff.
>
>
>>From: Rose Pinkul
>>Reply-To: Ceramic Arts Discussion List
>>To: CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG
>>Subject: Re: OK, is it safe? Clayed into a corner
>>Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2002 12:36:16 -0500
>>
>>Hi Yall
>> OK..... we have all these great looking elaborately carved and
>>embossed trays,
>>wall pockets and casseroles in highwater's Hestia clay and some in P5
>>porcelain,
>>bisque fired and ready to glaze (cone 6) ..........but we have no clue as
>>to what
>>sort of glaze to use that wouldn't cover up the carving and
>>embossing....definately
>>a newbe situation...
>> I tried using a blue oxide on the porcelain then a white glaze over
>>that and
>>it curdled and crawled and generally looked like it had some kind of
>>disease.
>> Rose :o(
>>
>>
>> >
>>
>>--
>> Rose Pinkul
>> Pinkul Pottery
>> Phone 828-652-7430
>> Fax 828-652-2171
>> Website http://www.pinkul.com
>>
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>>melpots@pclink.com.
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Michele Williams on fri 15 mar 02
Camille,
Please post the Chun Clear glaze recipe. I know at least 4 other folks
who'd like it, including myself, because we are wanting to try Chun glazes.
I could only find Chun Blue and Chun Green. I've spent hours on the
computer going through websites and data bases, but I didn't find a Chun
Clear. If you have it, I'd love to get a copy. Thanks a million!
Michele Williams
Newbie
----- Original Message -----
From: "Camille Morin"
To:
Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2002 3:43 PM
Subject: Re: OK, is it safe? Clayed into a corner
> An excellent glaze to use is one called Chun Clear with an addition of
3-6%
> copper for a "fake" celedon. It should be applied evenly though (drips
and
> runs show up darker). Perhaps search for it in the archives or email me
off
> list and I'll send it (don't have it on me right here). I teach pottery
and
> we use this at ^6 on P5 and on Ellen Buff.
>
>
> >From: Rose Pinkul
> >Reply-To: Ceramic Arts Discussion List
> >To: CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG
> >Subject: Re: OK, is it safe? Clayed into a corner
> >Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2002 12:36:16 -0500
> >
> >Hi Yall
> > OK..... we have all these great looking elaborately carved and
> >embossed trays,
> >wall pockets and casseroles in highwater's Hestia clay and some in P5
> >porcelain,
> >bisque fired and ready to glaze (cone 6) ..........but we have no clue as
> >to what
> >sort of glaze to use that wouldn't cover up the carving and
> >embossing....definately
> >a newbe situation...
> > I tried using a blue oxide on the porcelain then a white glaze over
> >that and
> >it curdled and crawled and generally looked like it had some kind of
> >disease.
> > Rose :o(
> >
> >
> > >
> >
> >--
> > Rose Pinkul
> > Pinkul Pottery
> > Phone 828-652-7430
> > Fax 828-652-2171
> > Website http://www.pinkul.com
> >
>
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Michele Williams on fri 15 mar 02
I just typed these Saffire recipes into my list of things to try yesterday!
Here are both versions. You're welcome.
Maid O'Mud, I really appreciate your comments. I wondered about the glaze,
and your comments make me feel that a beginner may stand a chance with it.
Thanks!
Michele Williams
Saffire Blue ^6 Ox
Deep Blue
EPK 25.5
Frit 3134 42.6
Custer Feldspar 25.5
Silica 15.0
Rutile 4.3
Cobalt Oxide 2.1
Ron Roy's Saffire Blue (above, reformulated)
^6 Ox
Frit 3134 37
EPK 26
Flint 17
Strontium Carbonate 4
Custer Feldspar 16
Cobalt Carbonate 2.5
Rutile 4.5
Non-detectable level of leaching
----- Original Message -----
From: "Maid O'Mud"
To:
Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2002 8:14 PM
Subject: Re: OK, is it safe? Clayed into a corner
> Hi there:
>
> Look up Ron Roy's revised saffire in the archives (I don't have it handy).
> Apply medium thick - it breaks very nicely on all edges to green (on white
> clay) or black (on dark clay). It isn't fussy about being fired down,
> either - at least, not in my kiln!.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Rose Pinkul"
> To:
> Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2002 12:36 PM
> Subject: Re: OK, is it safe? Clayed into a corner
>
>
> > Hi Yall
> > OK..... we have all these great looking elaborately carved and
> embossed trays,
> > wall pockets and casseroles in highwater's Hestia clay and some in P5
> porcelain,
> > bisque fired and ready to glaze (cone 6) ..........but we have no clue
as
> to what
> > sort of glaze to use that wouldn't cover up the carving and
> embossing....definately
> > a newbe situation...
> > I tried using a blue oxide on the porcelain then a white glaze over
> that and
> > it curdled and crawled and generally looked like it had some kind of
> disease.
> > Rose :o(
>
>
> Sam - Maid O'Mud Pottery
> Melbourne, Ontario CANADA
>
> "First, the clay told me what to do.
> Then, I told the clay what to do.
> Now, we co-operate."
> sam 1994
>
> http://www.ody.ca/~scuttell/
>
>
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