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acrylic paint and shoe polish fired to bisque temp

updated wed 27 mar 02

 

Ruth Ballou on mon 25 mar 02


There's a student at the Center where I teach who has seen a piece on which
acrylic paints and paste shoe polish were applied and fired to bisque temp.
She would like to use silver, gold and red paints and the shoe polish. Has
anyone ever tried this? Any problem with fumes, affecting other pots, or
anything else?

Ruth Ballou
Silver Springing in Maryland

Marie Gibbons on mon 25 mar 02


I think what the student saw was acrylic paint and pste shoe polish applied
TO bisque. if you fire these mediums they will burn away
marie gibbons

rwballou@COMCAST.NET writes:
> There's a student at the Center where I teach who has seen a piece on which
> acrylic paints and paste shoe polish were applied and fired to bisque temp.
> She would like to use silver, gold and red paints and the shoe polish. Has
> anyone ever tried this? Any problem with fumes, affecting other pots, or
> anything else?
>
>

Ann Brink on mon 25 mar 02


I never tried paste shoe polish, but I tried Shinola brand liquid brown
polish . It produced a stain much like red iron oxide.

I did a test tile of white acrylic wall paint and it came out cream colored
and seemed firmly adhered. Both bisque & high fired to about cone 7-8 as
near as I can recall. I meant to pursue it's use as a slip- thanks for the
reminder. I tried a few other colors of paint, and the colors burned out.

Ann Brink in CA


----- Original Message -----
From: "Ruth Ballou"
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Sent: Monday, March 25, 2002 11:59 AM
Subject: Acrylic paint and shoe polish fired to bisque temp


> There's a student at the Center where I teach who has seen a piece on
which
> acrylic paints and paste shoe polish were applied and fired to bisque
temp.
> She would like to use silver, gold and red paints and the shoe polish. Has
> anyone ever tried this? Any problem with fumes, affecting other pots, or
> anything else?
>
> Ruth Ballou
> Silver Springing in Maryland
>
>
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vince pitelka on mon 25 mar 02


> There's a student at the Center where I teach who has seen a piece on
which
> acrylic paints and paste shoe polish were applied and fired to bisque
temp.
> She would like to use silver, gold and red paints and the shoe polish. Has
> anyone ever tried this? Any problem with fumes, affecting other pots, or
> anything else?

Ruth -
I expect that all of those materials were applied AFTER the last firing.
Most of them would burn off entirely in any kind of firing. The student
must have read the identifying information incorrectly.
Best wishes -
- Vince

Vince Pitelka
Appalachian Center for Crafts
Tennessee Technological University
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Janet Kaiser on tue 26 mar 02


Ruth, is your student absolutely positive that the paint and shoe
polish was applied first and then biscuit-fired? I have seen plenty of
work where one or the other was applied to a biscuit form after
firing, but never before.

Janet Kaiser
The Chapel of Art / Capel Celfyddyd
Home of The International Potters' Path
8 Marine Crescent : Criccieth : GB-Wales
URL: http://www.the-coa.org.uk
postbox@the-coa.org.uk

Ababi on tue 26 mar 02


Hello Ruth.
In an old book they offered to use as a kiln wash aluminum paint. Oil
base. One thing for sure, acrylic or oil based I would turn the kiln on
and run away, at least until the binders will LOI!
From my experience aluminum paint in marker, might survive. I do not
remember in what temperature it has been, but once I have fired a piece
, or tile and wrote on it with such a marker, knowing it would vanish
and it did not.

When I add sometimes food color to glazes, I have found that blue, has
survived 1000C as ox. or and raku.

And for you Ruth as you had sent long time ago a ^10 purple glaze here
is my ^6 glaze that was developed out of yours
NEPHELINE SYENI 41.40 40.59%
DOLOMITE............ 11.70 11.47%
MAGNESIUM CA. 5.40 5.29%
WHITING............. 4.50 4.41%
QUARTZ.............. 27.00 26.47%
GERSTLEY B.... 10.00 9.80%
*COBALT CARBON 2.00 1.96%
========
102.00

CaO 0.39* 8.43%w 10.69%m
MgO 0.34* 5.25%w 9.26%m
K2O 0.06* 2.00%w 1.51%m
Na2O 0.21* 4.97%w 5.70%m
SrO 0.00* 0.01%w 0.01%m
Al2O3 0.25 9.92%w 6.92%m
B2O3 0.11 2.92%w 2.99%m
SiO2 2.32 53.19%w 62.90%m
Fe2O3 0.00 0.06%w 0.03%m

Text1 8.64
L.O.I. 13.23
Si:Al 9.10
SiB:Al 9.53
Ababi Sharon
Kibbutz Shoval- Israel
Going deeply into glazing
ababisha@shoval.org.il
http://members4.clubphoto.com/ababi306910/
http://www.milkywayceramics.com/cgallery/asharon.htm
http://www.israelceramics.org/



---------- Original Message ----------

>There's a student at the Center where I teach who has seen a piece on
>which
>acrylic paints and paste shoe polish were applied and fired to bisque
>temp.
>She would like to use silver, gold and red paints and the shoe polish.
>Has
>anyone ever tried this? Any problem with fumes, affecting other pots,
or
>anything else?

>Ruth Ballou
>Silver Springing in Maryland

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Richard Jeffery on tue 26 mar 02


and the splendid work of Peter Hayes is a case in point.

I think he also leaves his raku sculptures under water for a while, too - or
is that apocryphal?



Richard Jeffery

Web Design and Photography
www.theeleventhweb.co.uk
Bournemouth UK



-----Original Message-----
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Behalf Of Janet Kaiser
Sent: 26 March 2002 03:39
To: CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG
Subject: Re: Acrylic paint and shoe polish fired to bisque temp


Ruth, is your student absolutely positive that the paint and shoe
polish was applied first and then biscuit-fired? I have seen plenty of
work where one or the other was applied to a biscuit form after
firing, but never before.

Janet Kaiser
The Chapel of Art / Capel Celfyddyd
Home of The International Potters' Path
8 Marine Crescent : Criccieth : GB-Wales
URL: http://www.the-coa.org.uk
postbox@the-coa.org.uk

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