Lois Ruben Aronow on mon 25 mar 02
I've been following the lid thread with great interest. Thanks to all
who have contributed!
Here's my query - galleries. That's always been my sore spot. I can
make a lid no problem. Hell, I can make a lid that fits!! I can make
one that fits *well* even. What I have trouble with is making a nice
gallery. I can't push them down. I can't make them deep enough. I
often make then to thin with thin edges, so they break. I often tear
them in the making.
Using the rounded end of a wood tool tends to work best for me, but
it's not perfect. I've also been taught to use the nail side of my
thumb, but this has never worked for me.
Any tips and tricks would be greatly appreciated.
--------------------------------------------
Lois Ruben Aronow
gilois@bellatlantic.net
=46ine Craft Porcelain
http://www.loisaronow.com
Ruth Ballou on mon 25 mar 02
Try making the gallery earlier, when the wall is thicker and stronger.
Depending on how you throw, this could be one or two pulls before the final
one. Then throw the wall up to the gallery.
Ruth Ballou
Silver Spring, MD
>I've been following the lid thread with great interest. Thanks to all
>who have contributed!
>
>Here's my query - galleries. That's always been my sore spot. I can
>make a lid no problem. Hell, I can make a lid that fits!! I can make
>one that fits *well* even. What I have trouble with is making a nice
>gallery. I can't push them down. I can't make them deep enough. I
>often make then to thin with thin edges, so they break. I often tear
>them in the making.
>
>Using the rounded end of a wood tool tends to work best for me, but
>it's not perfect. I've also been taught to use the nail side of my
>thumb, but this has never worked for me.
>
>Any tips and tricks would be greatly appreciated.
>--------------------------------------------
>Lois Ruben Aronow
>gilois@bellatlantic.net
>
>Fine Craft Porcelain
>http://www.loisaronow.com
>
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Bill Arnold on tue 26 mar 02
I personally use the side of my thumbtip but a friend of mine used to have
pretty good luck by splitting the rim in half with the sharp end of the
needle tool and folding the inside half down to horizontal.
Bill
----- Original Message -----
From: "Lois Ruben Aronow"
To:
Sent: Monday, March 25, 2002 8:58 PM
Subject: Lid seats and galleries - any how-to's?
> I've been following the lid thread with great interest. Thanks to all
> who have contributed!
>
> Here's my query - galleries. That's always been my sore spot. I can
> make a lid no problem. Hell, I can make a lid that fits!! I can make
> one that fits *well* even. What I have trouble with is making a nice
> gallery. I can't push them down. I can't make them deep enough. I
> often make then to thin with thin edges, so they break. I often tear
> them in the making.
>
> Using the rounded end of a wood tool tends to work best for me, but
> it's not perfect. I've also been taught to use the nail side of my
> thumb, but this has never worked for me.
>
> Any tips and tricks would be greatly appreciated.
> --------------------------------------------
> Lois Ruben Aronow
> gilois@bellatlantic.net
>
> Fine Craft Porcelain
> http://www.loisaronow.com
>
>
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Judith Frederick on tue 26 mar 02
Maybe this is a stupid question but here goes.
I thought the gallery was the opening of the pot (never heard it referred to
as that but I figured, OK) Now I am convinced that it is not the opening of
the pot. What is the Gallery?
Judy in Baltimore
>From: Lois Ruben Aronow
>Reply-To: Ceramic Arts Discussion List
>To: CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG
>Subject: Lid seats and galleries - any how-to's?
>Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2002 20:58:56 -0500
>
>I've been following the lid thread with great interest. Thanks to all
>who have contributed!
>
>Here's my query - galleries. That's always been my sore spot. I can
>make a lid no problem. Hell, I can make a lid that fits!! I can make
>one that fits *well* even. What I have trouble with is making a nice
>gallery. I can't push them down. I can't make them deep enough. I
>often make then to thin with thin edges, so they break. I often tear
>them in the making.
>
>Using the rounded end of a wood tool tends to work best for me, but
>it's not perfect. I've also been taught to use the nail side of my
>thumb, but this has never worked for me.
>
>Any tips and tricks would be greatly appreciated.
>--------------------------------------------
>Lois Ruben Aronow
>gilois@bellatlantic.net
>
>Fine Craft Porcelain
>http://www.loisaronow.com
>
>______________________________________________________________________________
>Send postings to clayart@lsv.ceramics.org
>
>You may look at the archives for the list or change your subscription
>settings from http://www.ceramics.org/clayart/
>
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Dupre Mr Marcy M on tue 26 mar 02
<I thought the gallery was the opening of the pot (never heard it referred to
as that but I figured, OK) Now I am convinced that it is not the opening of
the pot. What is the Gallery?
Judy in Baltimore>>
Judy,
There is no such thing as a stupid question, if you do not know, but WANT to
know the answer.
The gallery of a pot that has a lid is the lip on which the lid sits.
Picture this, a vase has a straight side from rim to base. The inside of
the vase has a straight side as well. Now, picture a teapot. With a
certain type of lid, the gallery is the part that protrudes into the
opening, upon which the rim of a bowl-like lid would sit, to keep it from
falling through.
How's that for a picture?
Tig
Cindy Strnad on tue 26 mar 02
Dear Lois,
You might find it helpful in making your galleries to keep the lip of the
pot somewhat thick. Here is what I do: Throw the pot part-way, leaving a
good, fat lip. Get your lid opening to your desired finished diameter, then
form the gallery. Now, finish throwing the pot. Once you have the pot
finished, you can refine the gallery carefully without damaging the walls
of your pot with undue force on the gallery.
I believe in good beginnings and good endings. Make the base and rim of
your pot strong (this may mean substantial or it may mean some other effect
entirely) and the rest of the pot will be more likely to be effective.
Good luck,
Cindy Strnad
Tommy Humphries on tue 26 mar 02
first off, you must leave enough clay up top to form the gallery with,
sounds obvious I know, but many people underestimate the amount of clay
needed for a good strong resting place for the lid.
next you need to make sure that the roll of clay for the gallery is at least
twice as thick as the wall of the pot. Flatten the top edge with the
fingers so that there is a good stable area to start from. Next using the
forefinger of the left hand press DOWN on the inside half of this flattened
rim of clay till the desired depth is achieved, then you can throw the
outside rim to the thickness/shape you want.
Tommy
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Lois Ruben Aronow"
> To:
> Sent: Monday, March 25, 2002 8:58 PM
> Subject: Lid seats and galleries - any how-to's?
>
>
> > I've been following the lid thread with great interest. Thanks to all
> > who have contributed!
> >
> > Here's my query - galleries. That's always been my sore spot. I can
> > make a lid no problem. Hell, I can make a lid that fits!! I can make
> > one that fits *well* even. What I have trouble with is making a nice
> > gallery. I can't push them down. I can't make them deep enough. I
> > often make then to thin with thin edges, so they break. I often tear
> > them in the making.
> >
> > Using the rounded end of a wood tool tends to work best for me, but
> > it's not perfect. I've also been taught to use the nail side of my
> > thumb, but this has never worked for me.
> >
> > Any tips and tricks would be greatly appreciated.
> > --------------------------------------------
> > Lois Ruben Aronow
> > gilois@bellatlantic.net
> >
> > Fine Craft Porcelain
> > http://www.loisaronow.com
> >
> >
>
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>
Snail Scott on wed 27 mar 02
At 05:03 PM 3/26/02 +0000, you wrote:
What is the Gallery?
It's the little 'shelf' that the lid rests on.
On pots with flush-fitting lids, the gallery
is down inside the hole, just low enough to
support the lid at a height level with the
lip of the pot. Pots whose lids sit on top
of the surface don't need a gallery inside
the lip of the pot, but may have one on the
lid itself. (Gallery is also the term for the
'foot' that extends down from the lid, to
help it sit properly in place.) On some teapot
designs, the lid gallery can be quite deep,
to prevent the lid from falling out as the
last of the tea is poured.
-Snail
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