Philip Poburka on sat 30 mar 02
What I was given to understand is that this has nothing whatever to do with
'tanks' failing in any way...it has to do with the Valve being designed to
prevent 'overfilling' of small Tanks.
The 'new' Valve may be put into an 'old' Tank, and so long as the date of
mfg, or the date of the last Hydrotest is withing the specified span, you
are good togo with the 'new' law.
The new valves are ugly, bad looking, unpleasant to look at, have zero
dignity, and less 'Class'...hence gov't sez you MUST have them.
Oh yea? Say I...
Hmmmm...
Maybe so...
Phil
elllllveeee
----- Original Message -----
From: "Roger Korn"
To:
Sent: Saturday, March 30, 2002 6:34 AM
Subject: Re: new federal propane tank law
> Does anyone know of statistics that support the need for this new rule?
It's been
> in force in AZ for over a year now and the common perception is that the
rule
> creates a market for a federally mandated demand - an example of effective
lobbying
> by the propane hardware industry and the retail suppliers of tanks. It
costs $20
> down here for the changeover, so why not buy a new tank?
>
> I wonder if the number of tanks that have failed supports the impact of
the new
> rule on the users and on the environment - it creates a brand new waste
stream of
> scrap metal that requires special handling for safety.
>
> Any thoughts,
>
> Roger, whose only propane incident was caused by my own stupidity, which
can't be
> fixed by new rules.
>
> Mason Batchelder wrote:
>
> > posted fyi to CLAYART LISTSERV.Has this laew come to your state as well?
> > M.
> > Posted on Fri, Mar. 29, 2002 >
> >
> > Propane tanks for grills now need safety valves
> > New S.C. law says many cylinders, including ones for backyard cookers,
need
> > the devices
> > By CLARE A. RAMSEY
> > Staff Writer
> >
> > As backyard gourmets prepare to fire up their gas grills this spring,
they
> > should check to see that their propane tanks meet new safety rules.
> > State regulations going into effect Monday require that propane
cylinders
> > between 4 and 40 pounds have safety valves. Most backyard gas grills use
> > 20-pound propane tanks.
> > The safety valvecalled an OPD, or over fill protection device -- was
created
> > to cut down on fires or explosions from over filled tanks. The OPD uses
a
> > float that shuts off the valve before a tank is over filled.
> > "Just think about the back of the commode," said Al Niver of Tim's Gas
Depot
> > on Woodrow Street in downtown Irmo. "It has a float in it that won't let
it
> > overflow."
> > Propane cylinders manufactured after 1998 have OPD valves. Tanks with
OPD
> > valves have triangle-shaped knobs and are marked OPD.
> > But many people keep the tanks they bought with their grills and have
them
> > refilled, industry leaders say.
> > The safety valve rule comes from the National Fire Protection
Association, a
> > nonprofit fire safety group. Most states, including South Carolina, have
> > adopted the regulation.
> > Customers can use up the gas in their old tanks, but starting Monday,
they
> > can't refill tanks without the safety valves.
> > Tanks can be retrofitted with the OPD valves for about $20 to $25, Niver
> > said. But, he said, a new 20-pound tank will probably cost about the
same.
> > Larger tanks cost more to replace than to upgrade, he said.
> > Blue Rhino, an N.C.-based propane cylinder exchange company, will accept
> > empty tanks without OPDs, said company spokesman Rob Bunnell. But some
> > locations will charge an upgrade fee, he said.
> > Blue Rhino has 37,000 outlets nationwide, and several in the Midlands,
at
> > businesses such as home centers or grocery stores. Customers can drop
off
> > empty cylinders when they purchase new propane-filled tanks.
> > People use small propane tanks for grills, campers, turkey fryers, camp
> > stoves, outdoor patio heaters and more.
> > About 40 million to 50 million cylinders nationwide don't have the new
safety
> > device, Bunnell said.
> > John Ducate Jr., CEO of Columbia-based Ducane Gas Grills, said about 9
> > million to 10 million gas grills are sold a year, and the "the normal
life
> > expectancy of a grill" is six to seven years.
> > Niver said Tim's Gas Depot has been advising customers for months about
the
> > April 1 deadline to have the new safety valves.
> > While some people aren't happy about having to buy new tanks,
"regulations
> > are regulations," he said.
> >
> >
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