mel jacobson on wed 17 apr 02
man oh man, shino is a bag of worms.
so much depends on your clay body.
firing style.
when you reduce.
how long you let the pots sit on the shelf.
how old your batch is.
there just are not simple answers.
and, even if you get a recipe from sir tony, it may
not work at all for you. but, then, it may be even better
on your clay and firing standard.
shino becomes a personal thing.
as tom buck so well pointed out.
when you vet almost all of malcom davis` recipes..it
still is just two ideas. 35=2
shark, kitty, beaver. they are all similar. the potter
makes them different, with his or her materials, and timing.
this is true of most glazes. it takes time and effort
to make a glaze work for you....but, then, that is the joy
of being a potter.
mel
long live `mother in law blue`.
good old hank and i could trade all of
our recipes...make each others...and they would
not even be close to the same.
of course, if i moved into his studio for a month, used
his clay, glaze and kiln....well, i would have `hank shino`.
From:
Minnetonka, Minnesota, U.S.A.
web site: http://www.pclink.com/melpots
Tony Ferguson on wed 17 apr 02
Speaking of mother in law blue:
I am looking for a blue (I can't believe I am requesting this) that will
woodfire. Thanks.
fergy
Tony Ferguson
Stoneware, Porcelain, Raku
www.aquariusartgallery.com
Workshops available
218-727-6339
315 N. Lake Ave
Apt 312
Duluth, MN 55806
----- Original Message -----
From: "mel jacobson"
To:
Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2002 1:14 PM
Subject: shino recipes
> man oh man, shino is a bag of worms.
>
> so much depends on your clay body.
> firing style.
> when you reduce.
> how long you let the pots sit on the shelf.
> how old your batch is.
>
> there just are not simple answers.
> and, even if you get a recipe from sir tony, it may
> not work at all for you. but, then, it may be even better
> on your clay and firing standard.
>
> shino becomes a personal thing.
>
> as tom buck so well pointed out.
> when you vet almost all of malcom davis` recipes..it
> still is just two ideas. 35=2
>
> shark, kitty, beaver. they are all similar. the potter
> makes them different, with his or her materials, and timing.
>
> this is true of most glazes. it takes time and effort
> to make a glaze work for you....but, then, that is the joy
> of being a potter.
> mel
> long live `mother in law blue`.
> good old hank and i could trade all of
> our recipes...make each others...and they would
> not even be close to the same.
> of course, if i moved into his studio for a month, used
> his clay, glaze and kiln....well, i would have `hank shino`.
>
>
>
>
> From:
> Minnetonka, Minnesota, U.S.A.
> web site: http://www.pclink.com/melpots
>
>
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Hank Murrow on wed 17 apr 02
Mayor Mel wrote in part;
>man oh man, shino is a bag of worms.
>
>there just are not simple answers.
>
>shino becomes a personal thing.
>
>as tom buck so well pointed out.
>when you vet almost all of malcom davis` recipes..it
>still is just two ideas. 35=2
>
>shark, kitty, beaver. they are all similar. the potter
>makes them different, with his or her materials, and timing.
>
>this is true of most glazes. it takes time and effort
>to make a glaze work for you....but, then, that is the joy
>of being a potter.
>mel
>long live `mother in law blue`.
>good old hank and i could trade all of
>our recipes...make each others...and they would
>not even be close to the same.
>of course, if i moved into his studio for a month, used
>his clay, glaze and kiln....well, i would have `hank shino`.
>
Hey, Ian was here for three weeks (worked four days making,four more
glazing and crying over the results). He got pretty close for a Glaze
Guru. I have a lovely shino plate to prove it. I think the next time
'round he'll be 'right there'. But Mel is mostly right.......we all
make anyone's glazes ours in the end. Most people hardly recognize my
'cutside bowls' as coming from a demo Joe Bennion did several years
ago. Three boardfulls and you're off to the races with a new form or
a new glaze.
Just did the laundry while the fire is going, Hank
Chris Jones on thu 18 apr 02
I agree,
I use a glaze my teacher used and make great pots..............but some say
they look like my teacher's. What a drag........they don't look anything
like his pots or glaze...... It all became mine after about an hour throwing
and especially after the first firing of the glaze. I had to change a couple
of things and refire a few items to be just right. I think we all will find
our own way in spite of ourselves.
Thank you,
Chris Jones
Visit www.jonespottery.net
karen terpstra on thu 18 apr 02
fergy,
We just unloaded our wood kiln on Tuesday. One of my students used
Cooper's Blue Crystalline on a large planter. That recipe either came
from CM last fall sometime in the Susan Filley article or he got it from
the clayart archives. Sorry don't recall at the moment.
Anyway I was scared it was going to run so he wadded it on the plate
(unglazed where he wadded it) and put the glaze just on the top of the
rim of the plate. That way if the glaze ran it would not go on the
shelf. I couldn't believe it did not run. It did not have crystals
like it does in the gas kiln but it was a soft blue with blue-green
flashing...sort of. We all liked it.
I like this mother-in-law blue so well I made Mel take a cup home when
he was here. (I hope you're drinking your orange juice out of it Mel
because I'm using your mother-in-law-blue-with-pink-intestine plate. I
just don't put red beans and rice on it anymore. YUK!)
I suggest since you like to test, do what my students do, start going
through the archives and just see what happens. Copy off a page and
throw a dart at it and that's the one you test for the day. ;) My
favorite glaze assignment is this: Pick one glaze from the internet.
Pick one glaze from a source in the library. They love going through
potters web pages and the favorite source on the web is the clayart
archives.
Making them pick one glaze from a source in the library is not their
favorite thing to do. It means having to WALK to the library (heaven
forbid...across the sidewalk from the art building). I don't know why
it's so hard to get them there but I make them do it! Most of the
serious students get hooked on the magazines over there however and end
up subscribing to their own. Sometimes they even check out a book!!!
Sometimes several at once!!!!!!
What I'm trying to say is, keep testing and see what works on your clay
body and in your kiln.
Happy firings,
Karen Terpstra
La Crosse, WI
ps. you asked the other day for more of our wood kiln slips. The
students have tried about every one listed on the archives. So many, I
can barely keep track. Fake Avery on porcelain was a winner again in
this last firing. One student did tests with Pink Shino...varied the
amounts of pink stain....another winner! I have to try it myself next
time.
> Speaking of mother in law blue:
>
> I am looking for a blue (I can't believe I am requesting this) that will
> woodfire. Thanks.
>
> fergy
>
>
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