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what? throwing packages! packing

updated wed 8 may 02

 

Tony Ferguson on mon 6 may 02


You're all going to love this idea.

Pack something and drop it from above waist high. This test will tell you if
it is likely to make it. I throw mine. Bubble wrap and peanuts are your
friends.

Tony


Thank you!

Tony Ferguson
Stoneware, Porcelain, Raku
www.aquariusartgallery.com

218-727-6339
315 N. Lake Ave
Apt 312
Duluth, MN 55806



----- Original Message -----
From: "claybair"
To:
Sent: Monday, May 06, 2002 10:29 AM
Subject: Re: packing


> Hmmm.... this is pretty bad PR for that brown truck company.. perhaps one
of
> us should send this thread to their CEO, CEO sect'y or wife.
> I have sent about 12 boxes USPS in the past 2 years. Of course I double
box
> except if it is just one small item. I've had only one piece break and
that
> was my fault.
> I have seen them toss the boxes into the bin....... I figure that all
boxes
> get tossed but didn't quite figure they would be used as step stools etc.
> My next box will be packed like it were a box filled with eggs about to be
> dropped from a roof.
> I don't want to have to remake the piece I have to send to PA.
>
> Gayle Bair.... I thought it was "Drop Ship" not "Drop Kick"
> Bainbridge Island, WA
> http://claybair.com
>
>
> Behalf Of PurpleLama@AOL.COM
>
>
> Just got back from an Orlando business conference/vacation with family and
> am
> catching up on my mail. I bought two (refurbished) computers in the last
> couple of months - an iMAC for my grandchildren and a Powerbook laptop for
> myself. I bought them from different sources. Both computers were shipped
to
> me in brown trucks. Both shipping boxes had something in common -
footprints
> on them. Guess they may have been used when someone couldn't reach a
shelf!
> You have solved the mystery. Thanks
>
> Shula
> glad to be home in Redondo Beach, CA.
>
>
> << Many many moons ago I used to work for the "brown guys" shipping
company.
> Let me tell you something.......Fragile means "Throw Harder"....., Can't
> reach that shelf?.....here's a box to stand on. >>
>
>
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Janice Alexander on mon 6 may 02


Yes, Tony is right. I happened to see inside the local Fed Ex operation one
day. They were literally THROWING every package into different piles. Then
if they had to put them onto a conveyor belt, they were DROPPED onto it.
Then slid into the truck to bang into the other packages at the front of the
truck. It was an eye opener.

I pack everything now with these images in my mind.

Janice in NC

Philip Poburka on mon 6 may 02


My 'test' is ten feet 'high'...simulates their toss...

I just shipped some Chev "348" Heads...wrapped 'em individually...even at
that, no one was going to throw 'em much anyway...but they will likely take
the fall from the conveyer belt, and onto some other poor sap's Package...

Oh well...

Phil
Las Vegas...

----- Original Message -----
From: "Tony Ferguson"
To:
Sent: Monday, May 06, 2002 1:03 PM
Subject: What? Throwing packages! Packing


> You're all going to love this idea.
>
> Pack something and drop it from above waist high. This test will tell you
if
> it is likely to make it. I throw mine. Bubble wrap and peanuts are your
> friends.
>
> Tony
>
>
> Thank you!
>
> Tony Ferguson
> Stoneware, Porcelain, Raku
> www.aquariusartgallery.com
>
> 218-727-6339
> 315 N. Lake Ave
> Apt 312
> Duluth, MN 55806
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "claybair"
> To:
> Sent: Monday, May 06, 2002 10:29 AM
> Subject: Re: packing
>
>
> > Hmmm.... this is pretty bad PR for that brown truck company.. perhaps
one
> of
> > us should send this thread to their CEO, CEO sect'y or wife.
> > I have sent about 12 boxes USPS in the past 2 years. Of course I double
> box
> > except if it is just one small item. I've had only one piece break and
> that
> > was my fault.
> > I have seen them toss the boxes into the bin....... I figure that all
> boxes
> > get tossed but didn't quite figure they would be used as step stools
etc.
> > My next box will be packed like it were a box filled with eggs about to
be
> > dropped from a roof.
> > I don't want to have to remake the piece I have to send to PA.
> >
> > Gayle Bair.... I thought it was "Drop Ship" not "Drop Kick"
> > Bainbridge Island, WA
> > http://claybair.com
> >
> >
> > Behalf Of PurpleLama@AOL.COM
> >
> >
> > Just got back from an Orlando business conference/vacation with family
and
> > am
> > catching up on my mail. I bought two (refurbished) computers in the last
> > couple of months - an iMAC for my grandchildren and a Powerbook laptop
for
> > myself. I bought them from different sources. Both computers were
shipped
> to
> > me in brown trucks. Both shipping boxes had something in common -
> footprints
> > on them. Guess they may have been used when someone couldn't reach a
> shelf!
> > You have solved the mystery. Thanks
> >
> > Shula
> > glad to be home in Redondo Beach, CA.
> >
> >
> > << Many many moons ago I used to work for the "brown guys" shipping
> company.
> > Let me tell you something.......Fragile means "Throw Harder"....., Can't
> > reach that shelf?.....here's a box to stand on. >>
> >
> >
>
____________________________________________________________________________
> __
> > Send postings to clayart@lsv.ceramics.org
> >
> > You may look at the archives for the list or change your subscription
> > settings from http://www.ceramics.org/clayart/
> >
> > Moderator of the list is Mel Jacobson who may be reached at
> melpots@pclink.com.
> >
>
>
____________________________________________________________________________
__
> Send postings to clayart@lsv.ceramics.org
>
> You may look at the archives for the list or change your subscription
> settings from http://www.ceramics.org/clayart/
>
> Moderator of the list is Mel Jacobson who may be reached at
melpots@pclink.com.

Tommy Humphries on mon 6 may 02


dang it you beat me to this one, I thought of doing this the other day, but
didn't write it up... :^)

for the best results use one of your thinner bowls (a second will do) and
pack it as usual. take it out in the yard and play some soccer with it till
the box is demolished, then unpack and see what the pot is like, if it is
intact your packing is good.

Tommy


----- Original Message -----
From: "Tony Ferguson"
To:
Sent: Monday, May 06, 2002 3:03 PM
Subject: What? Throwing packages! Packing


> You're all going to love this idea.
>
> Pack something and drop it from above waist high. This test will tell you
if
> it is likely to make it. I throw mine. Bubble wrap and peanuts are your
> friends.
>
> Tony
>
>
> Thank you!
>
> Tony Ferguson
> Stoneware, Porcelain, Raku
> www.aquariusartgallery.com
>
> 218-727-6339
> 315 N. Lake Ave
> Apt 312
> Duluth, MN 55806
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "claybair"
> To:
> Sent: Monday, May 06, 2002 10:29 AM
> Subject: Re: packing
>
>
> > Hmmm.... this is pretty bad PR for that brown truck company.. perhaps
one
> of
> > us should send this thread to their CEO, CEO sect'y or wife.
> > I have sent about 12 boxes USPS in the past 2 years. Of course I double
> box
> > except if it is just one small item. I've had only one piece break and
> that
> > was my fault.
> > I have seen them toss the boxes into the bin....... I figure that all
> boxes
> > get tossed but didn't quite figure they would be used as step stools
etc.
> > My next box will be packed like it were a box filled with eggs about to
be
> > dropped from a roof.
> > I don't want to have to remake the piece I have to send to PA.
> >
> > Gayle Bair.... I thought it was "Drop Ship" not "Drop Kick"
> > Bainbridge Island, WA
> > http://claybair.com
> >
> >
> > Behalf Of PurpleLama@AOL.COM
> >
> >
> > Just got back from an Orlando business conference/vacation with family
and
> > am
> > catching up on my mail. I bought two (refurbished) computers in the last
> > couple of months - an iMAC for my grandchildren and a Powerbook laptop
for
> > myself. I bought them from different sources. Both computers were
shipped
> to
> > me in brown trucks. Both shipping boxes had something in common -
> footprints
> > on them. Guess they may have been used when someone couldn't reach a
> shelf!
> > You have solved the mystery. Thanks
> >
> > Shula
> > glad to be home in Redondo Beach, CA.
> >
> >
> > << Many many moons ago I used to work for the "brown guys" shipping
> company.
> > Let me tell you something.......Fragile means "Throw Harder"....., Can't
> > reach that shelf?.....here's a box to stand on. >>
> >
> >
>
____________________________________________________________________________
> __
> > Send postings to clayart@lsv.ceramics.org
> >
> > You may look at the archives for the list or change your subscription
> > settings from http://www.ceramics.org/clayart/
> >
> > Moderator of the list is Mel Jacobson who may be reached at
> melpots@pclink.com.
> >
>
>
____________________________________________________________________________
__
> Send postings to clayart@lsv.ceramics.org
>
> You may look at the archives for the list or change your subscription
> settings from http://www.ceramics.org/clayart/
>
> Moderator of the list is Mel Jacobson who may be reached at
melpots@pclink.com.
>

Lee Love on tue 7 may 02


----- Original Message -----
From: "Philip Poburka"


> but they will likely take the fall from the conveyer belt, and onto some
other
poor
> sap's Package...

Like I said, in my 10 years at U.P.S., I never saw anybody abuse
a
package. No kicking, no standing on packages. No malicious dropping of
packages. If anybody were caught doing this, they'd be lucky if the Union
helped them keep their jobs.

But, Philip makes an important point here. The parcel services
are
automated. They use rollers, slides, chutes and conveyor belts. I've
seem
many poorly packed packages crushed on the conveyor belt, or stuck in
rollers.
If you don't have all the seams taped flat, they can get caught & if you
don't
use good tape, it can get stuck in the rollers.

Also, you have to realize that the package delivery companies
don't
only ship your precious little pieces of fired clay. They ship engine
parts,
axles, wheels, motors, shafts and other rather heavy and cumbersome pieces
of
equipment. Yes, at U.P.S., these "dangerous" objects are put on the floor
at
the back of the semi-trailers, but sometimes packages fall down into these
areas
and have to ride with these ruff objects. Poorly packed parcels are more
prone
to fall off the rollers onto these heavier packages.

Your package should be able to pass the drop from shoulder level
test
because your package may experience similar stresses on the conveyor belts,
slides or rollers.

So, whine if you have to whine. But do what you can to make sure
your
package gets where you want it to, in one piece.

--
Lee in Mashiko
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OWLPOTTER@AOL.COM on tue 7 may 02


It was just before Christmas, I was standing in the long line in our UPS
office's warehouse watching the packages go down the conveyer belt and
employees walking them into the back of a semi truck. The next item coming
up the belt was an unwrapped axel from some large vehicle, rusted brake
drums
still attached to it. With its address tag flapping, the UPS employee
picked
it up and with a few mighty swings to and fro to build up momentum, managed
to heave it completely to the front of the trailer, where it landed with
very
loud crunching sounds.

Whenever I pack pots for shipping, I double box and over-pack while the
memory of that axel flying through the air goes through my head!
-Carolynn Palmer, Somerset Center, Michigan

claybair on tue 7 may 02


They should start a Brown Truck Olympics.
Just think of the categories......
The 18 Wheeler Parts Bench Press & Toss
Box Climb & Stomp
Fragile Box Javelin Toss
etc.

Gayle Bair
Bainbridge Island, WA
http://claybair.com

-----Original Message-----
OWLPOTTER@AOL.COM

It was just before Christmas, I was standing in the long line in our UPS
office's warehouse watching the packages go down the conveyer belt and
employees walking them into the back of a semi truck. The next item coming
up the belt was an unwrapped axel from some large vehicle, rusted brake
drums
still attached to it. With its address tag flapping, the UPS employee
picked
it up and with a few mighty swings to and fro to build up momentum, managed
to heave it completely to the front of the trailer, where it landed with
very
loud crunching sounds.

Whenever I pack pots for shipping, I double box and over-pack while the
memory of that axel flying through the air goes through my head!
-Carolynn Palmer, Somerset Center, Michigan