Deborah Thompson on wed 5 jun 02
I was looking at tile entries in the ClayArt Archives
at Potters.org and found a reference to a wonderful
tile site at http://www.drawrm.com/ztilemus.htm of
tiles done by Vilmos Zsolnay at the turn of the 20th
century.
Now I'm sure this is a newbie question (as I are one!
-- LOL) but what ever happened to the eosin glazes
that gave such beautiful effects? Were they toxic? Is
there something available nowadays that gives a
similiar effect? A Net search yielded little, aside
from people selling antiques... mostly by Zsolnay!
Thanks,
Deborah Thompson
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Longtin, Jeff on wed 5 jun 02
Deborah,
Did a search at dictionary.com and came up with this tidbit. Maybe the =
glaze
guru's can explain its usage. Sounds like pretty scary stuff!
e=B7o=B7sin Pronunciation Key (-sn)
n.=20
1)A red crystalline powder, C20H8O5Br4, used in textile dyeing and ink
manufacturing and in coloring gasoline.=20
2)The red sodium or potassium salt of this powder, used in biology to =
stain
cells.
Followed the website link you posted. Great stuff! Thank you!
Jeff Longtin=20
-----Original Message-----
From: Deborah Thompson [mailto:sundogdeb@YAHOO.COM]
Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 11:00 AM
To: CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG
Subject: Eosin glaze
I was looking at tile entries in the ClayArt Archives
at Potters.org and found a reference to a wonderful
tile site at http://www.drawrm.com/ztilemus.htm of
tiles done by Vilmos Zsolnay at the turn of the 20th
century.
Now I'm sure this is a newbie question (as I are one!
-- LOL) but what ever happened to the eosin glazes
that gave such beautiful effects? Were they toxic? Is
there something available nowadays that gives a
similiar effect? A Net search yielded little, aside
from people selling antiques... mostly by Zsolnay!
Thanks,
Deborah Thompson
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Michele Williams on thu 6 jun 02
Yes, I was impressed with those glazes, too. I was going to ask what is
eosin because it wasn't in my home dictionary and I thought someone on the
list might have a functional explanation of what's become of eosin glazes
(are they called something else? use was dropped due to danger?). So,
folks, if any of you know more, now you know we're waiting for you to spill
it!
Michele Williams
----- Original Message -----
From: "Longtin, Jeff"
To:
Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 4:20 PM
Subject: Re: Eosin glaze
Deborah,
Did a search at dictionary.com and came up with this tidbit. Maybe the glaze
guru's can explain its usage. Sounds like pretty scary stuff!
e·o·sin Pronunciation Key (-sn)
n.
1)A red crystalline powder, C20H8O5Br4, used in textile dyeing and ink
manufacturing and in coloring gasoline.
2)The red sodium or potassium salt of this powder, used in biology to stain
cells.
Followed the website link you posted. Great stuff! Thank you!
Jeff Longtin
-----Original Message-----
From: Deborah Thompson [mailto:sundogdeb@YAHOO.COM]
Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 11:00 AM
To: CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG
Subject: Eosin glaze
I was looking at tile entries in the ClayArt Archives
at Potters.org and found a reference to a wonderful
tile site at http://www.drawrm.com/ztilemus.htm of
tiles done by Vilmos Zsolnay at the turn of the 20th
century.
Now I'm sure this is a newbie question (as I are one!
-- LOL) but what ever happened to the eosin glazes
that gave such beautiful effects? Were they toxic? Is
there something available nowadays that gives a
similiar effect? A Net search yielded little, aside
from people selling antiques... mostly by Zsolnay!
Thanks,
Deborah Thompson
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Vera Romoda on sat 7 aug 04
If someone knows what it is an eosin glaze,please explain.Very famous =
Hungarian porcelain factory was using it, Some time lots of years ago I =
was showing their collection but than I was not really interested =
anything "old", but modern and abstract. I grew up. Thanks Vera
Diane Winters on mon 9 aug 04
Here are 3 links to various pages with examples (old and new) and
information about the Zsolnay iridescent eosin glazes. These pages are part
of a larger web presence by two guys in Newport RI, who collect and have
written a book on Zsolnay, which of course can be purchased from the
website. The Zsolnay factory in Hungary is still making pieces with the
eosin glazes, and the pages below used to include a link to it, but
according the these guys the link was very problematic, so they eliminated
it and recommend one simply does an internet search for the factory to get
to its site.
Zsolnay glaze and decoration info (geared more for the collector,
unfortunately no recipes :-( )
http://www.drawrm.com/zglaze.htm
The Zsolnay Store - antiques for sale
http://www.drawrm.com/zsolnay.htm
The Zsolnay Tile Museum
http://www.drawrm.com/ztilemus.htm
Diane Winters
in beautiful Oakland/Berkeley by the Bay
Vera Romoda on mon 9 aug 04
I am in Richmond Hill Ont.Where do you live Monica?I was talking about
Zsonay Porcelain of cause. I was touring several times over the factories
never asking extra questions. My only excuse that I was only 18, and old was
out and POP art was in.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Monica Klement"
To:
Sent: Monday, August 09, 2004 2:06 PM
Subject: Re: eosin glaze
> You might get some answer from ZSOLNAY' s website. the is the factory
where
> it was used, and I think it still exists. They might use different glaze
now.
>
> That is a question is they tell you what was in the glaze???
> I know what you are talking about, I had some vases in my Mother's house,
in
> Hungary. I wish I could help! but I am living in Canada, and have no
> relatives anymore in Hungary.
>
> Monica
>
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Monica Klement on mon 9 aug 04
You might get some answer from ZSOLNAY' s website. the is the factory where
it was used, and I think it still exists. They might use different glaze now.
That is a question is they tell you what was in the glaze???
I know what you are talking about, I had some vases in my Mother's house, in
Hungary. I wish I could help! but I am living in Canada, and have no
relatives anymore in Hungary.
Monica
Michael Shernick on tue 10 aug 04
Zsolnay is the pottery that developed and uses eosin glazes. I found out
about them while researching tiles. Go to the following site for very good
historical information and images put together by a collector here in the
states:
http://www.drawrm.com/ztilemus.htm
My understanding is that Zsolnay is still in business and still using
eosin glazes. Perhaps it's a matter of preference, but I would say that
the work they are doing today is humdrum compared to the art nouveau work
they did in their prime in 1910 to 1930 or so. My brother in law was
stationed in Eastern Europe and brought home a Zsolnay vase for my father--
the luster glaze was pretty, not like the true eosin, but the form was non-
descript and the decoration was average.
As for getting the recipe for eosin glaze, good luck. As far as I can tell
it's a trade secret--as well it should be since it's an amazing glaze!
Seems like Zsolnay has protected their trade secret pretty well, just like
Coke has protected the formula for their cola, Zildjian Cymbals has
protected the formula for their metals, and Michelin has protected the
formula for their rubber. There's nothing that says Zsolnay must tell us
how to make their eosin glaze or what's in it. Correct me if I'm wrong,
but I don't think you'll find anyone who knows (or is willing to tell you)
how to make eosin glazes.
Vera Romoda on sat 14 aug 04
Hello
Thank you very much for all the letters, information about eosin glazes =
I learned all and some more what I should have learn in Pecs way back in =
the Zsolnay Museum=20
Vera
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