Tony Ferguson on sat 22 jun 02

forpots

Richard,

Good point. We all have been subsidized at some point or forever will be to
some certain degree. I too am talking about realistic and fair pricing for
the artist. Never thought about the buyer being subsidized. God, you're
right!

Tony


----- Original Message -----
From: "Richard Jeffery"
To:
Sent: Saturday, June 22, 2002 12:24 AM
Subject: Re: Underselling other artists because you can--was payment forpots


> a thought to add to original post..,
>
> <> doesn't gel with
lower
> than market value prices. I started out "subsidised" - worked full time,
> did this as well. Used whatever fat from day job to buy hardware. Still
> "subsidised" now - do other things to make the payments at the end of the
> month, when i have to.
>
> But starting a business means realistic pricing from the outset.
Otherwise
> there is no benefit from the financial support from any source - you could
> argue it's the customer who is actually being subsidised. Here's a nice
> bowl, but because I have enough income from elsewhere, I'm going to give
you
> half your money back.....
>
> not easy
>
> Richard
>
>
> Richard Jeffery
>
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>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ceramic Arts Discussion List [mailto:CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG]On
> Behalf Of Earl Brunner
> Sent: 22 June 2002 03:30
> To: CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG
> Subject: Re: Underselling other artists because you can--was payment
> forpots
>
>
> To me, a "subsidized" potter isn't necessarily one that has additional
> income
> coming into their house from other sources, but one that doesn't pay full
> "cost"
> for what they make. They make pottery at the university, community
college,
> art
> center, etc. Or the very good high school student that doesn't pay for
his
> gas (he
> lives at home) etc.
>
> Lois Ruben Aronow wrote:
>
> > But here's what angers me - I am one of those "subsidized" potters. I
> > REALLY resent that phrase. I am not "subsidized". I am starting a
> > new business, like any other. Yes, I am fortunate we can live on my
> > husbands income alone. This means he is a supportive spouse, not a
> > "subsidiser". My being a potter allows me to pick my son up at
> > school, be around for the kids, be around for my husband (who commutes
> > 3 1/2 hours a day) and generally run the house. All this while trying
> > to makes pots and be profitable at it. I find it hard to believe that
> > anyone who goes through all the work of selling their wares
> > (especially the work of doing it at a crafts fair) does it for the fun
> > of it, which is basically what's being implied. I'm not setting my
> > prices higher to help other potters, as I have been told I should do.
> > I just want to sell pots, and lots of 'em.
> >
>
> --
> Earl Brunner
> http://coyote.accessnv.com/bruec
> mailto:bruec@anv.net
>
>
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