Don Kimon Lightner on mon 22 jul 02
I am looking for someone with a wood fire kiln whom
would be willing to allow me to share kiln space with
them. I have made some pieces to use for chanoyu
(Japanese tea ceremony) and want the natural ash
glazes typical of these kind of utencils. Any help
would be greatly appreciated.
Kimon
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Don Kimon Lightner on tue 23 jul 02
I live in Arizona but am willing to travel some
distance.
Thank you,
Kimon
--- Carolyn Jacobson wrote:
> Where do you live. We are firing an anagama kiln in
> August. Carolyn-----
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> Subject: wood firing kiln
>
>
> > I am looking for someone with a wood fire kiln
> whom
> > would be willing to allow me to share kiln space
> with
> > them. I have made some pieces to use for chanoyu
> > (Japanese tea ceremony) and want the natural ash
> > glazes typical of these kind of utencils. Any
> help
> > would be greatly appreciated.
> >
> > Kimon
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Carolyn Jacobson on tue 23 jul 02
Where do you live. We are firing an anagama kiln in August. Carolyn-----
Original Message -----
From: "Don Kimon Lightner"
To:
Sent: Monday, July 22, 2002 1:41 PM
Subject: wood firing kiln
> I am looking for someone with a wood fire kiln whom
> would be willing to allow me to share kiln space with
> them. I have made some pieces to use for chanoyu
> (Japanese tea ceremony) and want the natural ash
> glazes typical of these kind of utencils. Any help
> would be greatly appreciated.
>
> Kimon
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don hunt on wed 24 jul 02
Isn't there a anagama or some such thing at Northern Arizona U in Flagstaff? Check
it out, let us know, maybe I can drive over from San Diego, I would like to do this
also.
Don Hunt
Don Kimon Lightner wrote:
> I live in Arizona but am willing to travel some
> distance.
> Thank you,
> Kimon
>
> --- Carolyn Jacobson wrote:
> > Where do you live. We are firing an anagama kiln in
> > August. Carolyn-----
> > Original Message -----
> > From: "Don Kimon Lightner"
> > To:
> > Sent: Monday, July 22, 2002 1:41 PM
> > Subject: wood firing kiln
> >
> >
> > > I am looking for someone with a wood fire kiln
> > whom
> > > would be willing to allow me to share kiln space
> > with
> > > them. I have made some pieces to use for chanoyu
> > > (Japanese tea ceremony) and want the natural ash
> > > glazes typical of these kind of utencils. Any
> > help
> > > would be greatly appreciated.
> > >
> > > Kimon
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Brandon Phillips on wed 24 jul 02
You might try Northern Arizona University in Flagstaff, they have the
largest woodfiring program that I know of, I'm sure they'll let you put some
pieces in exchange for help firing. Don Reitz is in Clarksdale, and I
remember him mentioning once that he always needs help firing and in
exchange he'll give you space in the kiln.
Brandon Phillips
>I live in Arizona but am willing to travel some
>distance.
>Thank you,
>Kimon
> > > I am looking for someone with a wood fire kiln
> > whom
> > > would be willing to allow me to share kiln space
> > with
> > > them. I have made some pieces to use for chanoyu
> > > (Japanese tea ceremony) and want the natural ash
> > > glazes typical of these kind of utencils. Any
> > help
> > > would be greatly appreciated.
> > >
> > > Kimon
> > >
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Don Kimon Lightner on thu 25 jul 02
The new prof seems to prefer that only students have
use of the kilns at NAU. I am a doctor and have a
hard time taking weeks off to take classes but have
asked if some volunteer time/sweat labor and a fee
would be fair trade to fire in their anagama kiln.
The proposition was painfully avoided and the
fee/pieces ratio rather high. So this is why I search
elsewhere.
Kimon
--- don hunt wrote:
> Isn't there a anagama or some such thing at Northern
> Arizona U in Flagstaff? Check
> it out, let us know, maybe I can drive over from San
> Diego, I would like to do this
> also.
> Don Hunt
>
> Don Kimon Lightner wrote:
>
> > I live in Arizona but am willing to travel some
> > distance.
> > Thank you,
> > Kimon
> >
> > --- Carolyn Jacobson wrote:
> > > Where do you live. We are firing an anagama
> kiln in
> > > August. Carolyn-----
> > > Original Message -----
> > > From: "Don Kimon Lightner"
> > > To:
> > > Sent: Monday, July 22, 2002 1:41 PM
> > > Subject: wood firing kiln
> > >
> > >
> > > > I am looking for someone with a wood fire kiln
> > > whom
> > > > would be willing to allow me to share kiln
> space
> > > with
> > > > them. I have made some pieces to use for
> chanoyu
> > > > (Japanese tea ceremony) and want the natural
> ash
> > > > glazes typical of these kind of utencils. Any
> > > help
> > > > would be greatly appreciated.
> > > >
> > > > Kimon
> > > >
> > > >
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Earl Brunner on fri 26 jul 02
NAU has had opportunities in the past for others to participate in
firings there. We have heard about them over here in Vegas, and had
opportunities to participate. Some here have done so. If there has
been a change of policy, someone should be up front about it. The
liability issue doesn't really wash, because there are ways around that.
Offer a firing workshop with a fee, etc. I didn't understand your
original desire as wanting to take over and fill and fire a whole load
by yourself. If I understood you correctly you wanted to fire some
pieces and were willing to compensate in some manner for the privilege.
Your original post also didn't mention NAU, just your desire to find a
place to wood fire if I remember correctly.
Earl Brunner
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-----Original Message-----
From: Ceramic Arts Discussion List [mailto:CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG] On
Behalf Of Don Kimon Lightner
Sent: Friday, July 26, 2002 10:04 AM
To: CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG
Subject: Re: wood firing kiln
Vince,
I have nothing against Mr. Hess and I understand the
liabilities and responsibilities of his position
because I know many of his peers. Although the subject
of insurance or risk did not come up, and if it had I
would completely understand the concern. Many people
have suggested that I try to fire up at NAU, as many
have done so in the past, and I felt I had to give
reason why I was not able to do so, since I had been
asked.
I in no way intended to slime Mr Hess and my post did
not say anything about how he is doing his job, which
I understand, he is indeed doing a fine job. I simply
want to fire my pieces and was "painfully avoided", an
unfortunate reality. A simple "no, I am sorry" might
have been a better answer don't you think so?!
Kimon
--- vince pitelka wrote:
>
> This isn't really fair to Jason Hess. "Painfully
> avoided" is right, because
> this opens up all sorts of problems. Jason is
> responsible for those kilns,
> and for everyone who uses them, and he is really
> putting himself at risk if
> he allows someone to fire if they are not covered by
> the University's
> liability insurance. Jason is doing an excellent
> job at NAU, but he has a
> lot of students and a great deal of responsibility,
> and I can understand why
> he would not be receptive to this sort of
> suggestion. It is a shame, but it
> is the unfortunate reality.
> Best wishes -
> - Vince
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vince pitelka on fri 26 jul 02
> The new prof seems to prefer that only students have
> use of the kilns at NAU. I am a doctor and have a
> hard time taking weeks off to take classes but have
> asked if some volunteer time/sweat labor and a fee
> would be fair trade to fire in their anagama kiln.
> The proposition was painfully avoided and the
> fee/pieces ratio rather high. So this is why I search
> elsewhere.
This isn't really fair to Jason Hess. "Painfully avoided" is right, because
this opens up all sorts of problems. Jason is responsible for those kilns,
and for everyone who uses them, and he is really putting himself at risk if
he allows someone to fire if they are not covered by the University's
liability insurance. Jason is doing an excellent job at NAU, but he has a
lot of students and a great deal of responsibility, and I can understand why
he would not be receptive to this sort of suggestion. It is a shame, but it
is the unfortunate reality.
Best wishes -
- Vince
Vince Pitelka
Appalachian Center for Crafts
Tennessee Technological University
1560 Craft Center Drive, Smithville TN 37166
Home - vpitelka@worldnet.att.net
615/597-5376
Work - wpitelka@tntech.edu
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http://www.craftcenter.tntech.edu/
Don Kimon Lightner on fri 26 jul 02
Vince,
I have nothing against Mr. Hess and I understand the
liabilities and responsibilities of his position
because I know many of his peers. Although the subject
of insurance or risk did not come up, and if it had I
would completely understand the concern. Many people
have suggested that I try to fire up at NAU, as many
have done so in the past, and I felt I had to give
reason why I was not able to do so, since I had been
asked.
I in no way intended to slime Mr Hess and my post did
not say anything about how he is doing his job, which
I understand, he is indeed doing a fine job. I simply
want to fire my pieces and was "painfully avoided", an
unfortunate reality. A simple "no, I am sorry" might
have been a better answer don't you think so?!
Kimon
--- vince pitelka wrote:
> > The new prof seems to prefer that only students
> have
> > use of the kilns at NAU. I am a doctor and have a
> > hard time taking weeks off to take classes but
> have
> > asked if some volunteer time/sweat labor and a fee
> > would be fair trade to fire in their anagama kiln.
> > The proposition was painfully avoided and the
> > fee/pieces ratio rather high. So this is why I
> search
> > elsewhere.
>
> This isn't really fair to Jason Hess. "Painfully
> avoided" is right, because
> this opens up all sorts of problems. Jason is
> responsible for those kilns,
> and for everyone who uses them, and he is really
> putting himself at risk if
> he allows someone to fire if they are not covered by
> the University's
> liability insurance. Jason is doing an excellent
> job at NAU, but he has a
> lot of students and a great deal of responsibility,
> and I can understand why
> he would not be receptive to this sort of
> suggestion. It is a shame, but it
> is the unfortunate reality.
> Best wishes -
> - Vince
>
> Vince Pitelka
> Appalachian Center for Crafts
> Tennessee Technological University
> 1560 Craft Center Drive, Smithville TN 37166
> Home - vpitelka@worldnet.att.net
> 615/597-5376
> Work - wpitelka@tntech.edu
> 615/597-6801 ext. 111, fax 615/597-6803
> http://www.craftcenter.tntech.edu/
>
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