Nicholas Buchan on thu 25 jul 02
We would like to make a 4 foot diameter round table covered with closely
spaced Maiolica tiles on a metal-legged table that weighs less than 100
pounds for outside use in moist weather. However, we are unsure of the
proper materials to use for the table, and how best to attach the tiles to
the table surface (e.g. wood, cement, grout, metal). Any advice?
Nik
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Working Potter on fri 26 jul 02
I would suggest going to a local tile center where they sell the suplies to
do this project as they will kow the latest and best products for your
proscess and can coordinate the adhesives, grouts and sealers to suit both
your project and materials used in your specific climate.
Misty
In a message dated 7/26/2002 11:08:43 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
nicholas_buchan@HOTMAIL.COM writes:
> We would like to make a 4 foot diameter round table covered with closely
> spaced Maiolica tiles on a metal-legged table that weighs less than 100
> pounds for outside use in moist weather. However, we are unsure of the
> proper materials to use for the table, and how best to attach the tiles to
> the table surface (e.g. wood, cement, grout, metal). Any advice?
>
> Nik
>
>
Marcia Selsor on fri 26 jul 02
Nik,
You can get concrete board at Home depot or lowe's. You should have a
0ne inch ledge built into your table frame and if 4' include some cross
supports. The "durocrete" (I think that's the brand name) I believe
comes in 5/8 inch thick sheets. It is easy to cut with a utility knife
and snap like sheetrock. use regular mortar mix such as a thinset when
applying your tiles. use grout when finished and then use a silicon
sealer when your done. Follow the directions on all lables. They will
tell you how to mix the mortar, grout after 24 hours , seal after so
many days, etc. I have a table in Montana and we use it when we relax outdoors.-often.
Best wishes,
Marcia in Montana
Nicholas Buchan wrote:
>
> We would like to make a 4 foot diameter round table covered with closely
> spaced Maiolica tiles on a metal-legged table that weighs less than 100
> pounds for outside use in moist weather. However, we are unsure of the
> proper materials to use for the table, and how best to attach the tiles to
> the table surface (e.g. wood, cement, grout, metal). Any advice?
>
> Nik
>
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William Hendry on fri 26 jul 02
Nicholas
Does the table already have a top that you plan to affix the tiles to?
----- Original Message -----
From: "Nicholas Buchan"
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Sent: Friday, July 26, 2002 1:52 AM
Subject: Maiolica Tiled Table
> We would like to make a 4 foot diameter round table covered with closely
> spaced Maiolica tiles on a metal-legged table that weighs less than 100
> pounds for outside use in moist weather. However, we are unsure of the
> proper materials to use for the table, and how best to attach the tiles to
> the table surface (e.g. wood, cement, grout, metal). Any advice?
>
> Nik
>
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Nicholas Buchan on sat 27 jul 02
Thank you Marcia, William and Misty.
William, we didn't have a specific table top in mind. We especially like
Marcia's idea of the Durocrete table top with thinset and grout.
Marcia, do you envision using a metal frame or something else ?
Nik
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Nicholas Buchan on sat 27 jul 02
Marcia,
we have seen tables where they do not use cross-supports for the fragile
durocrete, but instead make it stronger by making a sandwich of the
durocrete with a supporting base (maybe wood?). They then seal the
supporting base with a plastic or epoxe of some sort. Any comments anyone?
Nik
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William Hendry on sun 28 jul 02
Nicholas - I'm not sure how thick a top your table base will accomodate but
you may also want to consider just pouring a concrete "top" to set the tiles
on. You can use thinset and then grout or you can use a grout/poly-additive
mix to set and grout at the same time (a trick to save a step :).
Concrete is inexpensive, relatively easy to work with, and doesn't have any
weathering problems if left outdoors; it will last virtually forever, just
ask the Romans. If you want to explore this option further let me know.
William
----- Original Message -----
From: "Nicholas Buchan"
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Sent: Saturday, July 27, 2002 12:03 PM
Subject: Re: Maiolica Tiled Table
> Thank you Marcia, William and Misty.
>
> William, we didn't have a specific table top in mind. We especially like
> Marcia's idea of the Durocrete table top with thinset and grout.
>
> Marcia, do you envision using a metal frame or something else ?
>
> Nik
>
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Marcia Selsor on sun 28 jul 02
Nik
My tables are 24" x 32 and seem fine, not so big a span. I think the original
person's question referred to a four foot span which is why I suggested a support
to keep the durocrete from flexing.. Plywood underneath would work ..just need a
thicker lip.
I wouldn't use only plywood for outdoors though. I guess you could, but I think of
the durocrete is more natural to use with tile.
Marcia in Montana
a beautiful day in Big Sky country!!
Nicholas Buchan wrote:
> Marcia,
> we have seen tables where they do not use cross-supports for the fragile
> durocrete, but instead make it stronger by making a sandwich of the
> durocrete with a supporting base (maybe wood?). They then seal the
> supporting base with a plastic or epoxe of some sort. Any comments anyone?
>
> Nik
>
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Marcia Selsor on sun 28 jul 02
I use a metal frame with the table top being 1 inch angle iron. When I taught a
tile class a few years back, some very creative students built some tables using
aspen ..sort of a rustic look with bark still on. There were some really fine
tables. The aspen table used a plywood base for the tiles but it was fine. The
tops for the tables were about 28" x 28"
Marcia
Nicholas Buchan wrote:
> Thank you Marcia, William and Misty.
>
> William, we didn't have a specific table top in mind. We especially like
> Marcia's idea of the Durocrete table top with thinset and grout.
>
> Marcia, do you envision using a metal frame or something else ?
>
> Nik
>
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