Evan Clifford on tue 6 aug 02
Hi everyone,
I am going to build a raku kiln. I have see people use ceramic
buttons... does everyone just make their own or is there some you can
buy. Would the high temperature wire you can buy at art supply stores
work alone? Thanks!
-Evan
ray found on tue 6 aug 02
Make a bunch of little balls out of heavily grogged clay, then take off
your shoes and socks and step on them with your heel. Perfect little
buttons, all you gotta do is poke the holes in them.
-Ray
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Subject: Ceramic buttons for raku kiln building...
Hi everyone,
I am going to build a raku kiln. I have see people use ceramic
buttons... does everyone just make their own or is there some you can
buy. Would the high temperature wire you can buy at art supply stores
work alone? Thanks!
-Evan
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Ababi on wed 7 aug 02
Can you buy them?
Take your raku claybody ( as heavy grog as possible). Make slabs. Make "cookies" with
a cup-upside down. Make two holes and fire to ^6 or ^7. Buy at ceramic supply house
Chrome- nickel wires and tie them one inside and one outside the kiln.
Ababi
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>Hi everyone,
>I am going to build a raku kiln. I have see people use ceramic
>buttons... does everyone just make their own or is there some you can
>buy. Would the high temperature wire you can buy at art supply stores
>work alone? Thanks!
>-Evan
Marcia Selsor on wed 7 aug 02
> Evan,
I make mine by making a flat disc and smush a hump on one side the punch a hole in
the hump. I have found that flat discs with 2 holes in them crack more often than
this other way. I "thread" the wire through the hole with about 3-4" of wire on
either side, push them throught the fiber and your structure and twist.
Marcia in Montana
currently teaching a raku class in Red Lodge where some folks came all the way
from Florida.
> Hi everyone,
> I am going to build a raku kiln. I have see people use ceramic
> buttons... does everyone just make their own or is there some you can
> buy. Would the high temperature wire you can buy at art supply stores
> work alone? Thanks!
> -Evan
>
Richard Jeffery on wed 7 aug 02
or you could roll out a stoneware clay and cut out disks with a bottle top
or similar - may 40mm across? haven't tried holes through the button - that
would seem to expose the wire to direct flame contact - it's extremely easy
to put little studs on the backs of the buttons and make holes through
that.
as for the wire, how do you know what they are selling? the thought of a
fibre lining slumping on a kiln full of beautiful pots would make me want to
buy the best i could....
Richard in Bournemouth uk, where 2 days ago i was standing in a muddy field
doing raku demonstrations, holding a large umbrella in a thunderstorm over
the kiln......
yes, thank you for asking - absolutely soaked.....
Richard Jeffery
Web Design and Photography
www.theeleventhweb.co.uk
Bournemouth UK
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Subject: Re: Ceramic buttons for raku kiln building...
Make a bunch of little balls out of heavily grogged clay, then take off
your shoes and socks and step on them with your heel. Perfect little
buttons, all you gotta do is poke the holes in them.
-Ray
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Sent: Tuesday, August 06, 2002 3:05 PM
To: CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG
Subject: Ceramic buttons for raku kiln building...
Hi everyone,
I am going to build a raku kiln. I have see people use ceramic
buttons... does everyone just make their own or is there some you can
buy. Would the high temperature wire you can buy at art supply stores
work alone? Thanks!
-Evan
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Clayhannie@AOL.COM on wed 7 aug 02
I build garbage can raku kilns and teach workshops. We use about 2 inch
diameter buttons (a quarter inch thick) made out of raku or stoneware clay.
They give support to the lining and keep the wire from cutting through the
fiber. Get regular high temp. wire from a ceramic supply source. The
repeated firings will gradually oxidize and weaken the wire so get the HI
temp. rating.
Martha
Donn Buchfinck on wed 7 aug 02
what I have seen used as buttons for fiber on a raku kiln are the triangles
that you buy for firing plates on
not ones with the nicrome wire in them but the ones with just the triangles,
the triangles are made of a material made to withstand many firings.
if I was to make my own buttons, I would make a specail clay body out of
wollastonite and ball clay and grog, you would have to play with it to get
the porportions right.
Donn Buchfinck
San Francisco
Marcia Selsor on wed 7 aug 02
I use my raku clay and do NOT high fire it. I just bisque it. That way
it is still shock reistant.
Marcia
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Jim Cullen on wed 7 aug 02
Hello stranger,
Next time you do a raku please drop me a note. Even if I don't have a pot to
fire I want to stop by and observe.
"The only thing wrong with a beautiful drive to work
is that you still end up at work."
KEEP CENTERED
Cullen
Naperville, Illinois
mail to: jcullen845@ameritech.net
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Subject: Re: Ceramic buttons for raku kiln building...
> I build garbage can raku kilns and teach workshops. We use about 2 inch
> diameter buttons (a quarter inch thick) made out of raku or stoneware
clay.
> They give support to the lining and keep the wire from cutting through the
> fiber. Get regular high temp. wire from a ceramic supply source. The
> repeated firings will gradually oxidize and weaken the wire so get the HI
> temp. rating.
>
> Martha
>
>
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Steve Mills on thu 8 aug 02
We use a 2 inch biscuit (the eating kind) cutter, lute a piece of clay
to the back of the resulting disc, and bore a single hole through that,
in effect a ceramic *blind* button. The *2 holes through the face*
variety can create a heat path to the outside via the holding wires, the
blind variety can't.
Steve
Bath
UK
In message , Ababi writes
>Can you buy them?
>Take your raku claybody ( as heavy grog as possible). Make slabs. Make "c=
>ookies" with
>a cup-upside down. Make two holes and fire to ^6 or ^7. Buy at ceramic su=
>pply house
> Chrome- nickel wires and tie them one inside and one outside the kiln.
>Ababi
>---------- Original Message ----------
>
>>Hi everyone,
>>I am going to build a raku kiln. I have see people use ceramic
>>buttons... does everyone just make their own or is there some you can
>>buy. Would the high temperature wire you can buy at art supply stores
>>work alone? Thanks!
>>-Evan
--
Steve Mills
Bath
UK
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