Belinda Willis on wed 7 aug 02
After several semesters at the local junior college, I=92m setting up a very=
small studio (=BD the garage,) 7 cu. ft. electric kiln, firing to cone 6. I=
have invited three classmates to share the space for the remainder of the
summer and now I don=92t know how to charge for electricity and equipment
usage. I=92m not interested in making a profit off my friends but I don=92t=
want to finance their ceramic activities either.
How do I compute it when each person has to pay her share of the costs?
One friend uses my wheel and kiln, one has a kick wheel at home so she only
shares the kiln and the third hand builds at home and only wants to bisque
her things in my kiln so she can low fire them at the school once the
semester starts again.
I was part of a shared studio several summers ago. We had two poster
boards with one inch squares marked on them standing at right angles to one
another. We recorded the cubic inch volume of each piece and at the end of
each month, the owner of the studio told us what we owed. The way she
calculated it was too convoluted for me to remember and she=92s moved out of=
state so I can=92t ask.
I=92ve called the electric company and found out I=92ll be paying 13 and =BD=
cents per kilowatt hour to operate the kiln (I live in northern
California.) The new kiln has a computer with zone control and I=92ll be
firing using the program posted on the Mastering Cone 6 website.
Can anyone help me figure out how to calculate what the costs are to share
my studio? I'm mainly interested in how to calculate kiln costs.
Thanks in advance.
Belinda Willis
quakeproof@aol.com
Rebecca P on wed 7 aug 02
Hi Belinda!
I'm very new at this, but do belong to a group that uses a community studio. What we do there is measure each piece by height or width - whice ever is the largest measurement. Then we pay 10 cents per inch. However, this includes bisque firing, glazing and glaze firing. If we are not using all three processes, we divide by three and pay 2/3 of it for two processes and 1/3 of it for one process. Hope this is helpful.
Cheers!
Rebecca Pierre (Ghosh)
>From: Belinda Willis
>Reply-To: Ceramic Arts Discussion List
>To: CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG
>Subject: How do you charge for kiln space?
>Date: Wed, 7 Aug 2002 00:02:48 -0400
>
>After several semesters at the local junior college, I’m setting up a very
>small studio (½ the garage,) 7 cu. ft. electric kiln, firing to cone 6. I
>have invited three classmates to share the space for the remainder of the
>summer and now I don’t know how to charge for electricity and equipment
>usage. I’m not interested in making a profit off my friends but I don’t
>want to finance their ceramic activities either.
>
>How do I compute it when each person has to pay her share of the costs?
>One friend uses my wheel and kiln, one has a kick wheel at home so she only
>shares the kiln and the third hand builds at home and only wants to bisque
>her things in my kiln so she can low fire them at the school once the
>semester starts again.
>
>I was part of a shared studio several summers ago. We had two poster
>boards with one inch squares marked on them standing at right angles to one
>another. We recorded the cubic inch volume of each piece and at the end of
>each month, the owner of the studio told us what we owed. The way she
>calculated it was too convoluted for me to remember and she’s moved out of
>state so I can’t ask.
>
>I’ve called the electric company and found out I’ll be paying 13 and ½
>cents per kilowatt hour to operate the kiln (I live in northern
>California.) The new kiln has a computer with zone control and I’ll be
>firing using the program posted on the Mastering Cone 6 website.
>
>Can anyone help me figure out how to calculate what the costs are to share
>my studio? I'm mainly interested in how to calculate kiln costs.
>
>Thanks in advance.
>
>Belinda Willis
>quakeproof@aol.com
>
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Ilene Mahler on wed 7 aug 02
Make sure you figure in the cost of new elements and if necessary itc as
just having spent $300 on the later I am very aware of that particular
cost...Ilene in Conn
----- Original Message -----
From: Belinda Willis
To:
Sent: Wednesday, August 07, 2002 12:02 AM
Subject: How do you charge for kiln space?
After several semesters at the local junior college, I'm setting up a very
small studio (½ the garage,) 7 cu. ft. electric kiln, firing to cone 6. I
have invited three classmates to share the space for the remainder of the
summer and now I don't know how to charge for electricity and equipment
usage. I'm not interested in making a profit off my friends but I don't
want to finance their ceramic activities either.
How do I compute it when each person has to pay her share of the costs?
One friend uses my wheel and kiln, one has a kick wheel at home so she only
shares the kiln and the third hand builds at home and only wants to bisque
her things in my kiln so she can low fire them at the school once the
semester starts again.
I was part of a shared studio several summers ago. We had two poster
boards with one inch squares marked on them standing at right angles to one
another. We recorded the cubic inch volume of each piece and at the end of
each month, the owner of the studio told us what we owed. The way she
calculated it was too convoluted for me to remember and she's moved out of
state so I can't ask.
I've called the electric company and found out I'll be paying 13 and ½
cents per kilowatt hour to operate the kiln (I live in northern
California.) The new kiln has a computer with zone control and I'll be
firing using the program posted on the Mastering Cone 6 website.
Can anyone help me figure out how to calculate what the costs are to share
my studio? I'm mainly interested in how to calculate kiln costs.
Thanks in advance.
Belinda Willis
quakeproof@aol.com
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Penni Stoddart on wed 7 aug 02
At our guild studio we charge per pound. Whether a person is just doing
bisque or going all the way to glaze. The "finished product" is weighed and
then a fee of (I think) 75 cents per pound is charged. So if a person is
just going to bisque then that is what is weighed. Or the final glazed piece
is weighed. No need to do it twice - at least that's not how we do it. I am
not sure if this would get you your money back for your space as our guild
does tend to supplement it's members quite a bit. Perhaps a higher fee per
pound would work better.
Just an idea - and easier then figuring out cubic inches etc. =o)
~~~~
Penni Stoddart of Penelope's Pots
Now acting as PAST President,
Artisans London (Ontario, Canada)
I live in my own little world, but it's ok... they know me here
Christine Barros on thu 8 aug 02
Hi Belinda,
there's a formula for calculating kiln cost on bigceramicstore.com. under
tips.
Christine
-----Original Message-----
From: Ceramic Arts Discussion List [mailto:CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG]On
Behalf Of Ilene Mahler
Sent: Wednesday, August 07, 2002 9:06 AM
To: CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG
Subject: Re: How do you charge for kiln space?
Make sure you figure in the cost of new elements and if necessary itc as
just having spent $300 on the later I am very aware of that particular
cost...Ilene in Conn
----- Original Message -----
From: Belinda Willis
To:
Sent: Wednesday, August 07, 2002 12:02 AM
Subject: How do you charge for kiln space?
After several semesters at the local junior college, I'm setting up a very
small studio (½ the garage,) 7 cu. ft. electric kiln, firing to cone 6. I
have invited three classmates to share the space for the remainder of the
summer and now I don't know how to charge for electricity and equipment
usage. I'm not interested in making a profit off my friends but I don't
want to finance their ceramic activities either.
How do I compute it when each person has to pay her share of the costs?
One friend uses my wheel and kiln, one has a kick wheel at home so she only
shares the kiln and the third hand builds at home and only wants to bisque
her things in my kiln so she can low fire them at the school once the
semester starts again.
I was part of a shared studio several summers ago. We had two poster
boards with one inch squares marked on them standing at right angles to one
another. We recorded the cubic inch volume of each piece and at the end of
each month, the owner of the studio told us what we owed. The way she
calculated it was too convoluted for me to remember and she's moved out of
state so I can't ask.
I've called the electric company and found out I'll be paying 13 and ½
cents per kilowatt hour to operate the kiln (I live in northern
California.) The new kiln has a computer with zone control and I'll be
firing using the program posted on the Mastering Cone 6 website.
Can anyone help me figure out how to calculate what the costs are to share
my studio? I'm mainly interested in how to calculate kiln costs.
Thanks in advance.
Belinda Willis
quakeproof@aol.com
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