Karin Hurt on mon 19 aug 02
for the 18" Olympic Raku kiln? I'd really like to get your advice.
Thanks
Karin
www.laughingbearpottery.com
Dewitt on mon 19 aug 02
Get two twenty pound tanks and a hose to gang them together. The twenty
pound tanks are much easier to haul around than bigger ones and you'll be
able to drain the first tank almost dry before switching to the second
one. See http://www.wardburner.com/raku_equip.cfm for info on the hose.
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At 18:58 8/19/02 -0400, Karin Hurt wrote:
>for the 18" Olympic Raku kiln? I'd really like to get your advice.
>Thanks
>
>Karin
>www.laughingbearpottery.com
>
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Karin Hurt on tue 20 aug 02
thank you for the information
Karin
www.laughingbearpottery.com
Orchard Valley Ceramics Arts Guild on tue 20 aug 02
>Get two twenty pound tanks and a hose to gang them together. The twenty
>pound tanks are much easier to haul around than bigger ones and you'll be
>able to drain the first tank almost dry before switching to the second
>one. See http://www.wardburner.com/raku_equip.cfm for info on the hose.
I don't think this is a "cut-over" valve. It drains the tanks simultaneously.
It does help reduce freeze-up, but it you start with two VERY LOW tanks,
you will still run out during the firing.
If you start with a VERY LOW tank and a full tank, they will equalize
through the hose connection, and you'll have two half-full tanks (I
asked Marc Ward about this a while back).
I just use a single tank in a tub of warm water. If I run out of propane
during a firing, I shut the burner down and switch tanks. Everything
stays plenty hot in the kiln during the minute or two it takes me to
make the switch.
>
>deg
>
>At 18:58 8/19/02 -0400, Karin Hurt wrote:
>>for the 18" Olympic Raku kiln? I'd really like to get your advice.
>>Thanks
>>
>>Karin
>>www.laughingbearpottery.com
>>
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Dewitt on tue 20 aug 02
At 09:54 8/20/02 -0700, you wrote:
>>Get two twenty pound tanks and a hose to gang them together. The twenty
>>pound tanks are much easier to haul around than bigger ones and you'll be
>>able to drain the first tank almost dry before switching to the second
>>one. See http://www.wardburner.com/raku_equip.cfm for info on the hose.
>
>I don't think this is a "cut-over" valve. It drains the tanks
>simultaneously.
>It does help reduce freeze-up, but it you start with two VERY LOW tanks,
>you will still run out during the firing.
>
>If you start with a VERY LOW tank and a full tank, they will equalize
>through the hose connection, and you'll have two half-full tanks (I
>asked Marc Ward about this a while back).
The "tank connector" from Marc Ward's page simply allows you to connect two
tanks to one outlet line. By opening / closing the valves on the tanks, you
can run on one or both tanks.
I'm not sure what specific question Mr Ward was answering, but assuming two
standard propane tanks that are in an upright position, liquid propane will
not flow from one tank to the other. The vapor pressure of propane will
equalize through the tank connector, but that's very different from one
tank filling up the other.
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Karin Hurt on tue 20 aug 02
Replying to the message below:
yesterday someone from Amerigas came out (the only one interested enough to),
he suggested putting two 25 lb tanks next to each other and plans to link
them so if one runs out, the other one takes over and we can call to get the
empty one refilled. To get the two tanks, have them installed and fastened to
the wall will cost us around 500 bucks. He said they need to be placed 15 ft
from point of ignition, it's the law.
Thanks for your replies and sharing of knowledge.
Karin
In a message dated 8/20/02 1:36:24 PM US Mountain Standard Time,
dewittweb@EARTHLINK.NET writes:
> At 09:54 8/20/02 -0700, you wrote:
> >>Get two twenty pound tanks and a hose to gang them together. The twenty
> >>pound tanks are much easier to haul around than bigger ones and you'll be
> >>able to drain the first tank almost dry before switching to the second
> >>one. See http://www.wardburner.com/raku_equip.cfm for info on the hose.
> >
> >I don't think this is a "cut-over" valve. It drains the tanks
> >simultaneously.
> >It does help reduce freeze-up, but it you start with two VERY LOW tanks,
> >you will still run out during the firing.
> >
> >If you start with a VERY LOW tank and a full tank, they will equalize
> >through the hose connection, and you'll have two half-full tanks (I
> >asked Marc Ward about this a while back).
>
> The "tank connector" from Marc Ward's page simply allows you to connect two
> tanks to one outlet line. By opening / closing the valves on the tanks, you
> can run on one or both tanks.
>
> I'm not sure what specific question Mr Ward was answering, but assuming two
> standard propane tanks that are in an upright position, liquid propane will
> not flow from one tank to the other. The vapor pressure of propane will
> equalize through the tank connector, but that's very different from one
> tank filling up the other.
>
> deg
>
> _
Karin
www.laughingbearpottery.com
Philip Poburka on tue 20 aug 02
Do you mean 25 Gallon Tanks? rather than 25 'pound' Tanks?
My 'five-gallon' when full weighs certainly more than 25lbs...
Either way...$500.00 sounds like a lot of dough...
Do the 25 Gallon Tanks have to be the 'new' get-reemed 'safetee' valve ?
If not, maybe see if you can find some used ones...see if date-stamp is
within the DOT time span for that size, and or what a hydro-test costs if
the date is not...
See what that adds up to...
You might save three or four hundred bucks...
Phil
Las Vegas
----- Original Message -----
From: "Karin Hurt"
To:
Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2002 2:04 PM
Subject: Re: What size propane tank
> Replying to the message below:
> yesterday someone from Amerigas came out (the only one interested enough
to),
> he suggested putting two 25 lb tanks next to each other and plans to link
> them so if one runs out, the other one takes over and we can call to get
the
> empty one refilled. To get the two tanks, have them installed and fastened
to
> the wall will cost us around 500 bucks. He said they need to be placed 15
ft
> from point of ignition, it's the law.
> Thanks for your replies and sharing of knowledge.
> Karin
>
> In a message dated 8/20/02 1:36:24 PM US Mountain Standard Time,
> dewittweb@EARTHLINK.NET writes:
>
>
> > At 09:54 8/20/02 -0700, you wrote:
> > >>Get two twenty pound tanks and a hose to gang them together. The
twenty
> > >>pound tanks are much easier to haul around than bigger ones and you'll
be
> > >>able to drain the first tank almost dry before switching to the second
> > >>one. See http://www.wardburner.com/raku_equip.cfm for info on the
hose.
> > >
> > >I don't think this is a "cut-over" valve. It drains the tanks
> > >simultaneously.
> > >It does help reduce freeze-up, but it you start with two VERY LOW
tanks,
> > >you will still run out during the firing.
> > >
> > >If you start with a VERY LOW tank and a full tank, they will equalize
> > >through the hose connection, and you'll have two half-full tanks (I
> > >asked Marc Ward about this a while back).
> >
> > The "tank connector" from Marc Ward's page simply allows you to connect
two
> > tanks to one outlet line. By opening / closing the valves on the tanks,
you
> > can run on one or both tanks.
> >
> > I'm not sure what specific question Mr Ward was answering, but assuming
two
> > standard propane tanks that are in an upright position, liquid propane
will
> > not flow from one tank to the other. The vapor pressure of propane will
> > equalize through the tank connector, but that's very different from one
> > tank filling up the other.
> >
> > deg
> >
> > _
>
>
> Karin
> www.laughingbearpottery.com
>
>
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Orchard Valley Ceramics Arts Guild on wed 21 aug 02
Good point - I probably misunderstood Marc's answer.
>The "tank connector" from Marc Ward's page simply allows you to connect two
>tanks to one outlet line. By opening / closing the valves on the tanks, you
>can run on one or both tanks.
>
>I'm not sure what specific question Mr Ward was answering, but assuming two
>standard propane tanks that are in an upright position, liquid propane will
>not flow from one tank to the other. The vapor pressure of propane will
>equalize through the tank connector, but that's very different from one
>tank filling up the other.
>
>deg
Imzadi . on wed 21 aug 02
No has yet answered: How much propane will be needed for an 18" Olympic Raku
kiln?
Will it actually need two 20# tanks to fire to cone 06? How many firings can
you get out of ONE tank?
Thanks,
Imzadi
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