claybair on tue 17 sep 02
I guess I have an issue with this mouth sprayer. How do you wear a mask
while spraying? I am assuming that your face will have to be pretty close to
the pot and will also be pretty close to the spray. Sounds unsafe to me.
Gayle Bair
Bainbridge Island, WA
http://claybair.com
-----Original Message-----
From: John Hesselberth
I need some help. I want to find a small spray gun that I can use to
apply accents of several glazes. I would like to have several glazes
available without the trouble of changing over one of the more standard
air-compressor-operated guns to another glaze every few seconds. Ideally
one (several) of the mouth sprayers discussed in several messages last
April would give me the flexibility I want.
Question 1: Has anyone used the one used the one advertised on the
Chinese Clayart Store? How well does it work? How easy is it to clean?
Question 2: Does anyone know of other sources/brands for sprayers of
this type. In the April thread there was a mention that someone thought
Axner's carried them, but I can't find it either in their catalog or on
their web site--although they do carry a hand-pump operated one for
$40. My search of several other catalogs and web sites has also come up
dry.
Any comments on U.S. sources, brands, etc. would be welcome.
Regards,
John
Frog Pond Pottery
PO Box 88
Pocopson, PA 19366
Fax or phone: 610-388-1254
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John Hesselberth on tue 17 sep 02
I need some help. I want to find a small spray gun that I can use to
apply accents of several glazes. I would like to have several glazes
available without the trouble of changing over one of the more standard
air-compressor-operated guns to another glaze every few seconds. Ideally
one (several) of the mouth sprayers discussed in several messages last
April would give me the flexibility I want.
Question 1: Has anyone used the one used the one advertised on the
Chinese Clayart Store? How well does it work? How easy is it to clean?
Question 2: Does anyone know of other sources/brands for sprayers of
this type. In the April thread there was a mention that someone thought
Axner's carried them, but I can't find it either in their catalog or on
their web site--although they do carry a hand-pump operated one for
$40. My search of several other catalogs and web sites has also come up
dry.
Any comments on U.S. sources, brands, etc. would be welcome.
Regards,
John
Frog Pond Pottery
PO Box 88
Pocopson, PA 19366
Fax or phone: 610-388-1254
Donn Buchfinck on tue 17 sep 02
My old girlfriend used a syphon sprayer, you hold a cup and you have an air
hose connected,
she used bottles carbon dioxide with a regulator on it, the setup for an
airbrush, you just have to modify the hose to hold the sprayer,
it is essintally the same as the one the website is offering , you just hook
it up to some pressure from the bottle,
we all used them at the kansas city art institute, but hooked to a compressor
with a regulator.
Donn Buchfinck
San Francisco
Paul Lewing on tue 17 sep 02
John, I have used these mouth atomizers for years to apply stains over
glaze, but I have never tried the ones that you mentioned- only the ones you
can buy at any art store.
However, unless they are very different from the ones I use, I don't think
it's going to work for you. You can only apply very thin liquids with one
of these guys, like oxide and water in a brushing consistency. If you try
to blow something as thick as glaze, first your face turns red, then you
pass out, and only the pain from your new hernia revives you. You can, of
course, thin the glaze, but then you have to blow for a long time to get any
coverage. And I will also tell you that, while I have no problem blowing a
strong blast of color through one of these guys, many people who try it in
my workshops can't get anything at all to come out. But then I've always
been known as a blowhard!
What may work better is just to invest in several of the low-pressure-high
volume spray guns and hook them all up at once. I have a friend who glazes
this way, and he has about four sprayers and several airbrushes fired up and
ready at a time.
Paul Lewing, Seattle
Don Goodrich on tue 17 sep 02
Hi John,
As it happens, I bought some of the little Chinese sprayers at NCECA for
the same reason you mentioned. As long as you don't let the glaze dry in
them, they rinse out pretty easily. A bottle brush might be necessary
otherwise. I found that I couldn't get very fine spray out of them, but they
don't clog up like my airbrush does when I try to glaze with it, and they
won't herniate you like the ones Paul mentions ;)
Regarding your Question 2: The Paintec airless sprayers from Argentina
might be what Axner's sells. Their website, http://www.paintec.com/ lists
several U.S. dealers but for Pennsylvania, it refers to Ceramic Supply in
Lodi, New Jersey.
Hope this helps,
Don Goodrich
goodrichdn@aol.com
John Post on tue 17 sep 02
In the ceramics studio at one of the local colleges here the instructor
hooked up a small piece of brass pipe in the shape of an L to the end of the
hose from the compressor. It works exactly as a siphon does... you dip one
of the L into a small cup of your glaze and the air blowing across the top
of that pipe from the other part of the L that is coming from the hose sucks
the glaze up. It looks just like one of those small mouth atomizers but it
is attached to an air compressor hose instead of your lips... The advantage
here is that there is no spray gun or bottle to have to keep changing, just
dip into a new cup and go...
The one at this school has no off switch, but you could easily rig one of
those in the line before the L sprayer...
Cheers,
John Post
I need some help. I want to find a small spray gun that I can use to
apply accents of several glazes. I would like to have several glazes
available without the trouble of changing over one of the more standard
air-compressor-operated guns to another glaze every few seconds. Ideally
one (several) of the mouth sprayers discussed in several messages last
April would give me the flexibility I want.
Karin Hurt on tue 17 sep 02
try: http://www.chineseclayart.com/store/tool-1.html
Karin
www.laughingbearpottery.com
Jim Brooks on wed 18 sep 02
since everyone is telling where to get these.. Trinity Ceramics in Dallas
carries the mouth sprays. Handy little gadgets........... Jim in Denton
Brooks Ratledge on wed 18 sep 02
I duct taped one of those mouth sprayers from an art store to an air
compressor. The fitting on the air hose came to a point (I don't remember
the specific name for it) and the mouth end of the atomizer fit right over
it. Worked great. I could go from glaze to glaze with no problem - I did
clear the atomizer by spraying water between glazes. The glazes were normal
spraying thickness, not extra thin. Patricia Harden
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Steve Mills on wed 18 sep 02
We import them, I've sold several to Clayarters, and I use 2 of them
myself and wouldn't be without them. We are currently awaiting the
arrival of a new consignment.
I cannot understand why no-one else seems to sell them.
Steve Mills
Bath Potters Supplies
Bath
UK
http://www.bathpotters.demon.co.uk
Off next week to investigate the French Wine Lake first hand :-)
See you all later!
In message , John Hesselberth writes
>I need some help. I want to find a small spray gun that I can use to
>apply accents of several glazes. I would like to have several glazes
>available without the trouble of changing over one of the more standard
>air-compressor-operated guns to another glaze every few seconds. Ideally
>one (several) of the mouth sprayers discussed in several messages last
>April would give me the flexibility I want.
>
>Question 1: Has anyone used the one used the one advertised on the
>Chinese Clayart Store? How well does it work? How easy is it to clean?
>
>Question 2: Does anyone know of other sources/brands for sprayers of
>this type. In the April thread there was a mention that someone thought
>Axner's carried them, but I can't find it either in their catalog or on
>their web site--although they do carry a hand-pump operated one for
>$40. My search of several other catalogs and web sites has also come up
>dry.
>
>Any comments on U.S. sources, brands, etc. would be welcome.
>
>Regards,
>
>John
>Frog Pond Pottery
>PO Box 88
>Pocopson, PA 19366
>Fax or phone: 610-388-1254
--
Steve Mills
Bath
UK
Russel Fouts on thu 19 sep 02
Gayle
>> I guess I have an issue with this mouth sprayer. How do you wear a mask while spraying? I am assuming that your face will have to be pretty close to the pot and will also be pretty close to the spray. Sounds unsafe to me. <<
It's no problem, you're constantly exhaling, then you get dizzy from
lack of oxygen and fall on the floor. You can't use it long enough to be
harmful. ;-)
Ru
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Cl Litman on thu 19 sep 02
I'm one that bought one of these and it's great. Don't go red in the
face. Thanks Steve.
Cheryl Litman - NJ
cheryllitman@juno.com
On Wed, 18 Sep 2002 23:47:09 +0100 Steve Mills
writes:
> We import them, I've sold several to Clayarters, and I use 2 of them
> myself and wouldn't be without them. We are currently awaiting the
> arrival of a new consignment.
> I cannot understand why no-one else seems to sell them.
>
> Steve Mills
> Bath Potters Supplies
> Bath
> UK
> http://www.bathpotters.demon.co.uk
>
> Off next week to investigate the French Wine Lake first hand :-)
> See you all later!
>
>
> In message , John Hesselberth writes
> >I need some help. I want to find a small spray gun that I can use
> to
> >apply accents of several glazes. I would like to have several
> glazes
> >available without the trouble of changing over one of the more
> standard
> >air-compressor-operated guns to another glaze every few seconds.
> Ideally
> >one (several) of the mouth sprayers discussed in several messages
> last
> >April would give me the flexibility I want.
> >
> >Question 1: Has anyone used the one used the one advertised on the
> >Chinese Clayart Store? How well does it work? How easy is it to
> clean?
> >
> >Question 2: Does anyone know of other sources/brands for sprayers
> of
> >this type. In the April thread there was a mention that someone
> thought
> >Axner's carried them, but I can't find it either in their catalog
> or on
> >their web site--although they do carry a hand-pump operated one
> for
> >$40. My search of several other catalogs and web sites has also
> come up
> >dry.
> >
> >Any comments on U.S. sources, brands, etc. would be welcome.
> >
> >Regards,
> >
> >John
> >Frog Pond Pottery
> >PO Box 88
> >Pocopson, PA 19366
> >Fax or phone: 610-388-1254
>
> --
> Steve Mills
> Bath
> UK
>
>
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