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anti-perspirant and raku - explanation

updated thu 26 sep 02

 

Steven D. Lee on mon 23 sep 02


I thought that the refractory alumina in the deodorants would act as
a kind of mask so that the post-firing reduction would cover those
areas not using deodorant and change the deposition of reduction
materials on the surface.

This was not only a serious question, but I did want some
constructive feedback on this or other things that can be used as
masks at this high temperature...

However, after re-reading my post and those that followed I can see
where it could be hillarious.

If my pieces stink when they are removed from the kiln, why not use
deodorant on them?

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Ababi on mon 23 sep 02


Some time ago there was a question about reduction with alcohol.
There is such a thing. One of the potters wrote about an unexperienced teacher that
put herself in flames using this dangerous technique.
Your letter reminded me that story. If it is the alumina, try to brush it or add some
soda ash or borax as a cement. can be 95 alumina (thin) and 5 flux, cement plus
some CMC.
In a saggar there is not problem ( So I think) until you close it the gas is vanished.

Besides what is more serious in our life than a good joke from time to time!
---------- Original Message ----------

>I thought that the refractory alumina in the deodorants would act as
>a kind of mask so that the post-firing reduction would cover those
>areas not using deodorant and change the deposition of reduction
>materials on the surface.

>This was not only a serious question, but I did want some
>constructive feedback on this or other things that can be used as
>masks at this high temperature...

>However, after re-reading my post and those that followed I can see
>where it could be hillarious.

>If my pieces stink when they are removed from the kiln, why not use
>deodorant on them?

>*************************
>Steven D. Lee
>SD Pottery
>http:\\www.sdpottery.com
>millenial_age@yahoo.com
>*************************

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Fredrick Paget on mon 23 sep 02


Anybody remember that James Bond movie where he killed a snake in the
hotel bathroom using a cigarette lighter to light the spray from a can of
aerosol deodarant?

The propellant in these is propane. Makes a nice flame thrower.
Fred Paget



From Fred Paget, Marin County, California, USA

Fredrick Paget on tue 24 sep 02


Don't try this if you are inside! The flame is entirely outside the can
and an inch or two out in the air before it starts to burn, I only had it
on for a moment and the can was not heated at all. If anything it gets
colder from evaporation of the propellant inside the can. And yes it can be
dangerous, especially to snakes.
By the way the propellant is sometimes butane and not propane but they are
brother chemicals in the same hydrocarbon series and equally flammamable.



>How are you applying the hairspray. Isn't it dangerous to let the can get
>hot?
>
>Susan

From Fred Paget, Marin County, California, USA

Katheleen Nez on tue 24 sep 02


Speaking of propellants, we used to fire off Potato
Launchers made of PVC pipe in which one sprayed an
aerosol and then inserted a potato. Aqua Net works the
best. Lemon Pledge was a sorry substitute.
Let me know when you plan on raku firing spraying
aerosol deodorant on yer pots - I'll make a point of
Being Far Away...nezbah hey there randall blaze sells
at indian market - his booth is across from First Natl Bank

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L. P. Skeen on tue 24 sep 02


O crap, Fred, you're kidding I hope..........PROPANE??? In
HAIRSPRAY??????????????????????

L
----- Original Message -----
From: "Fredrick Paget"
Subject: Re: Anti-Perspirant and Raku - Explanation


> The propellant in these is propane. Makes a nice flame thrower.
> Fred Paget

Fredrick Paget on tue 24 sep 02


Not kidding. Read the list of ingredients on the label.
Just for fun I went outside and tried a couple of cans. The hair spray
worked the best as it stayed lit and made a nice flame. The deodorent would
not stay lit but made an impressive flame as long as the ignition source (
a benzomatic torch turned down low) was present.
Fred
Artimator may need this tip if his snakes get unruly.

>O crap, Fred, you're kidding I hope..........PROPANE??? In
>HAIRSPRAY??????????????????????

>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Fredrick Paget"
>Subject: Re: Anti-Perspirant and Raku - Explanation
>
>
>> The propellant in these is propane. Makes a nice flame thrower.
>> Fred Paget

From Fred Paget, Marin County, California, USA

SusanRaku@AOL.COM on tue 24 sep 02


In a message dated 9/24/2002 5:03:18 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
fredrick@WELL.COM writes:


>
> Not kidding. Read the list of ingredients on the label.
> Just for fun I went outside and tried a couple of cans. The hair spray
> worked the best as it stayed lit and made a nice flame. The deodorent would
> not stay lit but made an impressive flame as long as the ignition source (
>

How are you applying the hairspray. Isn't it dangerous to let the can get
hot?

Susan