Hank Murrow on thu 26 sep 02
>I'm in Maryland, just south of Baltimore and there are a lot of potters and
>clay customers in a 50 mile radius. Do you have suggestions on how to start
>a group sale? I assume finding a location and time of year are fundamental.
>What would you recommend? Then getting some kind of organizing committee to
>think through the heavy lifting required. All participants would need to
>contribute names for a mailing list. As much publicity as possible. Start
>small and grow? Are these events one day or a weekend? In your experience,
>how many years until sales are worth the effort? Jurying process, or some
>kind of qualification for entrants? Costs covered by some sort of formula
>based on a flat fee, hours worked to help, and percent of sales?
>
>Winnie in Columbia, Maryland
>jwcoggins@comcast.net
Dear Winnie;
The Oregon Potters Association has had their show right
around Mothers' Day for twenty years now. A good time, because it's
after taxes are in and folks know how much they can spend, and bride
season is just around the corner. before the summer fairs too. Last
year they did $500,000 in three days.
Our Local Clay group has it's show the first or second
weekend in October, when the summer fair season is done and it is
well before the Holidays, permitting those who have holiday sales to
have flyers for them in their booths.
Both shows are all-volunteer and work very well.
Best, Hank
Winnie coggins on thu 26 sep 02
I'm in Maryland, just south of Baltimore and there are a lot of potters and
clay customers in a 50 mile radius. Do you have suggestions on how to start
a group sale? I assume finding a location and time of year are fundamental.
What would you recommend? Then getting some kind of organizing committee to
think through the heavy lifting required. All participants would need to
contribute names for a mailing list. As much publicity as possible. Start
small and grow? Are these events one day or a weekend? In your experience,
how many years until sales are worth the effort? Jurying process, or some
kind of qualification for entrants? Costs covered by some sort of formula
based on a flat fee, hours worked to help, and percent of sales?
Winnie in Columbia, Maryland
jwcoggins@comcast.net
Orchard Valley Ceramics Arts Guild on fri 27 sep 02
Wow - big, open ended question!
You will need two or three really committed, hard working people
to run everything. You will need a few more people who will
work reasonably hard at well defined tasks. And EVERYBODY will
need to do one or two "jobs" in order to participate.
We usually charge a flat fee plus percentage of sales. We're
conservative in our budgeting... we plan on the flat fee covering
all planned expenses, so we don't end up in the hole. The percentage
covers unexpected expenses and over-runs. The surplus goes back
into the Guild's general budget, and is used for a variety of
educational programs, as well as promotion. We don't jury -
one of our goals as an organization is to provide venues for new
artists to get established. One of our shows started out as a
student show over 15 years ago, and now has a huge local following.
I would say it takes about 3 years for a show to get reasonably
well "established," but with good promotion and hard work, there's
no reason you can't have a successful event the first year.
Our sales are two day events. We hold sales in October/November,
when people are thinking of holiday gifts. Spring and summer sales
work well too, and give you the option of an outdoor location.
Visit our website at www.ovcag.org, and go to the Shows section.
We have two sales coming up - One in October and one in December.
On each of the Sale pages, there is a link called "Info for Artists."
Check out those info pages - it will give you a little better idea
of how we run our events.
If you have specific questions, write me offline.
- Bob
Rob Van Rens on fri 27 sep 02
Winnie:
Several of the local potters guilds have potters only shows...two that come
to mind are Montgomery Potters (2 shows a year) and Clay Connection (1 show
a year). I'm sure that there are others I don't know about.
Robert Van Rens, Workshop Coordinator
Otto Kroeger Associates
703-591-6284, x110 Phone
703-591-8338 Fax
www.typetalk.com
-----Original Message-----
From: Winnie coggins [mailto:jwcoggins@COMCAST.NET]
Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2002 11:23 PM
To: CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG
Subject: Potter only shows
I'm in Maryland, just south of Baltimore and there are a lot of potters and
clay customers in a 50 mile radius. Do you have suggestions on how to start
a group sale? I assume finding a location and time of year are fundamental.
What would you recommend? Then getting some kind of organizing committee to
think through the heavy lifting required. All participants would need to
contribute names for a mailing list. As much publicity as possible. Start
small and grow? Are these events one day or a weekend? In your experience,
how many years until sales are worth the effort? Jurying process, or some
kind of qualification for entrants? Costs covered by some sort of formula
based on a flat fee, hours worked to help, and percent of sales?
Winnie in Columbia, Maryland
jwcoggins@comcast.net
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Judith S. Labovitz on fri 27 sep 02
our local potters' guild has 2 shows/sales a year. One is the weekend
before Mother's Day, the other is 2 weekends before Thanksgiving. They
begin Thursday 5:30 -9 pm, 9 - 9 Friday, and 9 - 4 Saturday.
Only our members and visiting potters may enter pots. (Advanced students
may participate with 8 pots juried by a member and 35% commission,) We
expect each member to enter no fewer than 50 pots, with no maximum. We
each work about 10 hours at the sale. We are now grossing well over
$100,000 between the 2 sales; the guild takes 20% commission.
The sale expenses are a line item in our annual budget.
we have a sales committee charged with the overall responsibility of
organizing the sale, a publicity committee which handles necessary
publicity, and a display committee which arranges for promotional displays
in the community to 'advertise' the sale. Our mailing list is over 8000 names!
it works for us!
judy greater lansing (Mich) potters' guild
At 09:24 AM 9/27/02 -0400, you wrote:
>Winnie:
>
>Several of the local potters guilds have potters only shows...two that come
>to mind are Montgomery Potters (2 shows a year) and Clay Connection (1 show
>a year). I'm sure that there are others I don't know about.
>
>Robert Van Rens, Workshop Coordinator
>Otto Kroeger Associates
>703-591-6284, x110 Phone
>703-591-8338 Fax
>www.typetalk.com
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Winnie coggins [mailto:jwcoggins@COMCAST.NET]
>Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2002 11:23 PM
>To: CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG
>Subject: Potter only shows
>
>
>I'm in Maryland, just south of Baltimore and there are a lot of potters and
>clay customers in a 50 mile radius. Do you have suggestions on how to start
>a group sale? I assume finding a location and time of year are fundamental.
>What would you recommend? Then getting some kind of organizing committee to
>think through the heavy lifting required. All participants would need to
>contribute names for a mailing list. As much publicity as possible. Start
>small and grow? Are these events one day or a weekend? In your experience,
>how many years until sales are worth the effort? Jurying process, or some
>kind of qualification for entrants? Costs covered by some sort of formula
>based on a flat fee, hours worked to help, and percent of sales?
>
>Winnie in Columbia, Maryland
>jwcoggins@comcast.net
>
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John Baymore on sat 28 sep 02
We expect each member to enter no fewer than 50 pots, with no maximum. =
We
each work about 10 hours at the sale. We are now grossing well over
$100,000 between the 2 sales; the guild takes 20% commission.
One improtant question I have here is how many members are there selling
pieces to generate this $100,000? In other words..... what would the
average sales per member be? =
And then the logical next question is what is the average price of a sing=
le
item sold ($100,000 / total # of pieces sold)?
Do you have any info on this?
Thanks.
Best,
..............................john
John Baymore
River Bend Pottery
22 Riverbend Way
Wilton, NH 03086 USA
603-654-2752 (s)
800-900-1110 (s)
JohnBaymore.com
JBaymore@compuserve.com
Valerie Hawkins on sun 29 sep 02
Our guild in Charlotte does two shows per year. Potters pay a booth fee up
front and a percentage is earmarked for a charitable organization. We try
to cover the shows expenses with entry fees. No profit back to the guild
generaly. No jurying. One day only. We have a good turnout and it's alot
of fun.
-Valerie
Charlotte
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From: Ceramic Arts Discussion List [mailto:CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG]On
Behalf Of Winnie coggins
Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2002 11:23 PM
To: CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG
Subject: Potter only shows
I'm in Maryland, just south of Baltimore and there are a lot of potters and
clay customers in a 50 mile radius. Do you have suggestions on how to start
a group sale? I assume finding a location and time of year are fundamental.
What would you recommend? Then getting some kind of organizing committee to
think through the heavy lifting required. All participants would need to
contribute names for a mailing list. As much publicity as possible. Start
small and grow? Are these events one day or a weekend? In your experience,
how many years until sales are worth the effort? Jurying process, or some
kind of qualification for entrants? Costs covered by some sort of formula
based on a flat fee, hours worked to help, and percent of sales?
Winnie in Columbia, Maryland
jwcoggins@comcast.net
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