Lily Krakowski on tue 29 oct 02
Sorry to be a nit picker. Before you put up a permanent shed, check that
this won't raise your real estate tax.
Valerie Hawkins writes:
> Marjorie said:
>
> " for a temp situation you could get by with a metal garden shed and
> gravel floor with cement sidewalk pavers (large ones)"
>
> Now that's a great idea. And you can take the shed with you when you move!
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Be of good courage....
John Baymore on fri 1 nov 02
Sorry to be a nit picker. Before you put up a permanent shed, check that=
this won't raise your real estate tax.
Lili has a good point.
In addition, in many places you will need a building permit to install su=
ch
a shed. In some places you even need a permit to put in a "temporary" ty=
pe
garden shed.
Oh.... and a "garden shed" is not a "kiln shed". Also nit picking......
but when it comes to this "legal stuff" if you are reading the local code=
s
that say you can have a "garden shed" they are probably expecting it to
house lawn mowers, rakes and shovels, a pile of old newspapers, and so on=
. =
NOT a gas or electric kiln. Check the local regs carefully.
And if you make pots to sell..... that is another whole case. Then it is=
a
"commercial outbuilding" or some such. Could be in violation of your loc=
al
zoning.
If you are putting in such a shed..... the whole "Susan Beecher kiln
discussion" thread ALSO has the potential to affect you in the future,
depending on the legal outcome of that case. =
Best,
..............................john
John Baymore
River Bend Pottery
22 Riverbend Way
Wilton, NH 03086 USA
603-654-2752 (s)
800-900-1110 (s)
JohnBaymore.com
JBaymore@compuserve.com
Philip Poburka on fri 1 nov 02
Built it on 'blocks'...
Put some (old) 'pretend' wheels on the thing, and an old
rusty
'License Plate'...
If they pester ye, tell 'em it's a 'Trailer' as has maybe
'settled' some...
They'll leave ye be...
Phil
Las Vegas
----- Original Message -----
From: "John Baymore"
To:
Sent: Friday, November 01, 2002 7:48 AM
Subject: Sheds and taxes
Sorry to be a nit picker. Before you put up a permanent
shed, check that
this won't raise your real estate tax.
Lili has a good point.
In addition, in many places you will need a building permit
to install such
a shed. In some places you even need a permit to put in a
"temporary" type
garden shed.
Oh.... and a "garden shed" is not a "kiln shed". Also nit
picking......
but when it comes to this "legal stuff" if you are reading
the local codes
that say you can have a "garden shed" they are probably
expecting it to
house lawn mowers, rakes and shovels, a pile of old
newspapers, and so on.
NOT a gas or electric kiln. Check the local regs carefully.
And if you make pots to sell..... that is another whole
case. Then it is a
"commercial outbuilding" or some such. Could be in
violation of your local
zoning.
If you are putting in such a shed..... the whole "Susan
Beecher kiln
discussion" thread ALSO has the potential to affect you in
the future,
depending on the legal outcome of that case.
Best,
..............................john
John Baymore
River Bend Pottery
22 Riverbend Way
Wilton, NH 03086 USA
603-654-2752 (s)
800-900-1110 (s)
JohnBaymore.com
JBaymore@compuserve.com
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terry sullivan on fri 1 nov 02
Well, like Mel San says;
Keep a low profile. Keep your neighbors friendly.
All things being equal; I often opt for the "don't ask" route. It
really is a per case sort of thing, and every situation is different.
Check local codes, look around to see what other similar things are
going on, build in a non intrusive way and always, always build to a
higher standard than the codes require.
We here at Nottingham, a very different situation than most, have built
lots of structures and the like.
I always insist that we build to far higher standards than the code
requires ( like use metal conduit for electrical instead of simply
running Romex). We have had inspectors come on site for various reasons
when we could not bypass getting a permit or such. Several times the
inspector(s) have noted that this or that was built without permit. But
then they note how well we built and all. They shrug and give us the
permit for what we called them for and go away. Worse case scenario is
that we might be fined and required to get the permit de facto. Often
much easier and cheaper than going the Official route. Sometimes it's
the only way.
On the other hand; we maintain an open and proactive stance with the
city government, other local arts organizations, and our neighbors.
We are , after all, a non profit tax exempt public benifit organization.
I know of lots of folks who have put in kilns, both gas and electric,
for their home studios. Some have been hit and some have not. A lot of
what influences that is: keeping a low profile, maintaining good
relations with the neighbors, do it safely and to code as best you can,
and don't push the limits to far. Don't force the city guys to react by
being in their face. You can come up with an acceptable pretext for why
you need a bigger 220 volt electric service without sayin you are going
to install a Skutt 1027 that needs 65 amps.
Oh, and build everything with screws and bolts. That way you can take
things down easily if you must.
Much can be accomplished by being well informed in all the nuances of
city code and practice and being very clever.
One last note; always be nice to the Planning Commision permit folks.
Always !! Act simple but persist.
You'd be surprised how one can turn a "NO" to a "maybe" to an OK, if
you just keep asking in a nice obsequeous manner. ; - )
Terry Sullivan
Nottingham Center for the Arts
San Marcos, CA
www.nottinghamarts.org
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