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ceramic perfume bottles ok?

updated sat 2 nov 02

 

Cat Yassin on thu 31 oct 02


I couldn't find anything about putting perfume in a ceramic bottle in the
archives but I did see posts about weeping oil lamps. Anyone know if its ok
to put perfume or perfume oil in a glazed ceramic bottle? I was wondering
about the effects of alcohol and oil on the inside of a glazed bottle. Anyone
have experience with this?

Thanks in advance!
-Cat Yassin
San Antonio

Fredrick Paget on thu 31 oct 02


There is that metal and rubber cork thingy with a lever on top that pulls
up on the bottom of the rubber cylinder causing it to expand. They are used
in some thermos bottles and a version has been sold for resealing
carbonated beverage bottles of glass.

Then there is that old time wire gadget on the neck of the bottle that
levers a ceramic disk faced with rubber or suchlike down into hard contact
with the top of the bottle''s neck. These are still seen on imported
bottles and preserving jars. Needs a certain exact sizing of the neck and
the mounting blind holes.

If all you are looking for is a friction fit you can buy the corks you
mentioned from a bottle supply company but the ones I have seen are a
plastic knob rather than ceramic on top with a cork under. You should boil
these before installing them in the bottle while hot. That softens and
swells the cork. It then conforms to the opening and can be taken out and
put back as you normally do with corks.

It doesn't cost too much to have a knife edge clicker die made to cut out
special shapes if they can be gotten out of sheet stock. You don't say how
many you need. I suppose if it is just a few you could manage with a ten
dollar set of gasket cutter punches from Harbor Supply
Fred


>Does anyone know if there are silicone (or other rubber) 'corks' available=
> that can be attached to a ceramic lid?
>
>- Rick

From Fred Paget, Marin County, California, USA

Dannon Rhudy on thu 31 oct 02


.....Anyone know if its ok
> to put perfume or perfume oil in a glazed ceramic bottle? ...... Anyone
> have experience with this?.....

If your clay is vitrified, you should have no problems. If
it is not, it may well leak. You should make some tests, with
your clay, your glaze(s), your firing type/schedule.

I have never had oil lamps leak, but many on the list HAVE
had that problem. Check the archives - there must be hundreds
of posts on this subject there.

regards

Dannon Rhudy

Ilene Mahler on thu 31 oct 02


Aftosa sells the tops or what ever they are called ask them..Ilene in Conn
----- Original Message -----
From: Cat Yassin
To:
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Subject: Ceramic Perfume bottles ok?


> I couldn't find anything about putting perfume in a ceramic bottle in the
> archives but I did see posts about weeping oil lamps. Anyone know if its
ok
> to put perfume or perfume oil in a glazed ceramic bottle? I was wondering
> about the effects of alcohol and oil on the inside of a glazed bottle.
Anyone
> have experience with this?
>
> Thanks in advance!
> -Cat Yassin
> San Antonio
>
>
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Lily Krakowski on thu 31 oct 02


Cat: I think the problem would be cleaning the thing....I have used glazed
ceramic jars for oil--as in kitchen type cruets--and find them nearly
impossible to clean. No more difficult than glass cruets, except with the
transparency of glass you can see how well you are doing.

As a one shot deal I think a midrange stoneware and up perfume bottle would
work--except remember this--the preservation of the scent depends in part on
how well sealed the bottle is....How will you do that?



Cat Yassin writes:

> I couldn't find anything about putting perfume in a ceramic bottle in the
> archives but I did see posts about weeping oil lamps. Anyone know if its ok
> to put perfume or perfume oil in a glazed ceramic bottle? I was wondering
> about the effects of alcohol and oil on the inside of a glazed bottle. Anyone
> have experience with this?
>
> Thanks in advance!
> -Cat Yassin
> San Antonio
>
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Lili Krakowski
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Be of good courage....

Snail Scott on thu 31 oct 02


At 11:24 AM 10/31/02 -1000, you wrote:
>Does anyone know if there are silicone (or other rubber) 'corks' available
that can be attached to a ceramic lid?

How 'bout that paint-on rubber stuff that
they sell for tool handles, etc. Lots of color
choices!

-Snail

Cat Yassin on thu 31 oct 02


In a message dated 10/31/2002 10:45:25 AM Central Standard Time,
mlkrakowski@CITLINK.NET writes:


> As a one shot deal I think a midrange stoneware and up perfume bottle would
> work--except remember this--the preservation of the scent depends in part
> on
> how well sealed the bottle is....How will you do that?
>

Good question Lili... I'm still working on that one! I have little carved
ceramic lids, but they don't seal as well as I'd like.

-Cat Yassin
San Antonio

Rick Monteverde on thu 31 oct 02


Does anyone know if there are silicone (or other rubber) 'corks' available=
that can be attached to a ceramic lid? Perhaps either a hollow tapered=
thimble shaped to fit over a part of the lid that protruded down into the=
bottle, or a composite piece consisting of rubber attached to a solid core=
piece that would in turn be glued or mechanically attached to the underside=
of the lid. I've seen wine corks that are ceramic knobs like a perfume lid=
with real cork attached.

- Rick

Liz Gowen on fri 1 nov 02


I am not sure what size you are looking for but I assume something
small? Blood draw tubes come with a rubber cork /plug in them, come
in a couple sizes and colors ( clay color, blue yellow green purple
black). You might build a clay lid around them then silicone them
together. These tubes when used medically for the public have
expiration dates on them and they may toss some out periodically,
especially the ones for odder test that aren't used often. Know I
tossed out many in my time. Labs, home care nurses Dr offices
someone who works for a hospital..... just some thoughts on where to
find them.
Good luck
Liz Gowen NJ east of Phila.

> At 11:24 AM 10/31/02 -1000, you wrote:
> >Does anyone know if there are silicone (or other rubber) 'corks'
available
> that can be attached to a ceramic lid?
>

Rick Monteverde on fri 1 nov 02


I might be able to cast something in silicone. Shinetsu's good stuff. Considering small-scale or one-off quantities.

Thanks for the suggestions.

- R.

>At 11:24 AM 10/31/02 -1000, you wrote:
>>Does anyone know if there are silicone (or other rubber) 'corks' available
>that can be attached to a ceramic lid?
>
>How 'bout that paint-on rubber stuff that
>they sell for tool handles, etc. Lots of color
>choices!
>
> -Snail
>