fire ants

updated tue 25 sep 07

artimater on fri 8 nov 02

Merrie,
You are gonna get bit a bit I betcha....
Ignore em....toss em in the fire....ant ash...It helps if you drink beer =
and cuss...Have fun....Hope we don't have no ants at our woodfire picnic =
tomorrow...just good food
PAX,
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J. B. Clauson on sat 9 nov 02

Don't have too much trouble with fire ants per se here in California, but
the ants rule this particular area. The best way I have found to control
them is to trace them to their nest and mark it carefully. Ants are like
people in that they are active during the day and sleep at night. I'm an
early riser, so just before dawn, I boil up several large pots of water and
pour liberally over the nest. This works well on small red ants, thief ants
and black ants that are a problem here--and it is not harmful to the
environment. You might give it a try before you use poisons. If you do,
let me know how it works out.

Jan Clauson

mel jacobson on sat 9 nov 02

DDT was suppose to rid the south of fire ants
after world war 2. it was the main thrust in the
use of DDT. ( i saw a 1947 documentary.)

it seems that it killed a great many birds, but did
not do a thing for fire ants.

be careful, it is told that if you do not get
the entire nest, they will follow you home, and
get you in your bed.

at least they do not live in nordic country, minnesota.
but, their first cousins, mosquitos made it this far north.
they own us.
mel
merrie had a fire in her shed last year...she does
not want to use gas. she and bill have dreams
about their shed going up in flames. that was not
funny.
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Jim Brooks on sun 10 nov 02

Mel..i didn't think fire ants got into this country until the 60's. But i
do remember DDT..and ant beds.. it did work then ! but of course the DDT
caused more problems than it solved.

John Rodgers on sun 10 nov 02

Cheryl Hoffman wrote:
> Come on Phil! If you've ever been bit by a fire ant, there is no more "Mr.
> or Ms Niceperson". Be nice to them, my ass!

I have seen my poor little granddaughter covered with bites...they
> love young tender flesh! I have no pity for them and will kill every one I
> see.

"Hell hath no wrath like a mad Mutha ......or GrandMutha!!"

John Rodgers

Philip Poburka on sun 10 nov 02

There were plenty of them in central Texas when I was a boy
in the 1950s...and I do not recall ever hearing them spoke
of as 'recent'...

My guess is that they has about allways been there...

Certain kinds of them however I have heard are recent
arrivals...

Phil
Las Vegas

----- Original Message -----
From: "Jim Brooks"
To:
Sent: Saturday, November 09, 2002 10:26 PM
Subject: Re: fire ants


Mel..i didn't think fire ants got into this country until
the 60's. But i
do remember DDT..and ant beds.. it did work then ! but of
course the DDT
caused more problems than it solved.

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Cheryl Hoffman on sun 10 nov 02

Come on Phil! If you've ever been bit by a fire ant, there is no more "Mr.
or Ms Niceperson". Be nice to them, my ass! They are not indigenous to the
states, have come over the border and are steadily marching their way across
and up the states. They can take down and kill a cow! In Florida, according
to the last statistics I read, the fire ants are averaging 200 mounds per
acre. I have seen my poor little granddaughter covered with bites...they
love young tender flesh! I have no pity for them and will kill every one I
see.
Cher Gauvin

Leland G. Hall on sun 10 nov 02

I know that I have a very creative mind, and somestimes find myself doing
free association with quite strange results. For example: The below
statements remind me very much of what Sitting Bull, Geronimo, Crazy Horse,
etc. were saying about white people a while back. Even the part about them
not being indigenous. Also the average coverage per acre. In fact the whole
thing is a quite apt analogy, though I'm certain the author did not mean it
that way. (substitute "cow" below, with "continents entire population of
bison", and it might be dead on) No offense. Just thinking out loud. And
before anybody goes off on me, yes, I am of Native American descent.
Really, I do agree with Phil on this one. I have discovered through
experience, most critters can be gotten along with. I confess though that
we do not have these fire ants here in oregon. Yellow jackets though. And
I kill them if they try to sting me. Destroy their nests only if they
threaten my home, which is almost never. Sounds like these ants can be
pretty destructive. Wonder why they tear up electrical stuff? Thats
interesting. Would sure piss me off too. When ever I snuff a biting
mosquito, I yell "EVOLVE M----- F-----!!" I'll never figure out why the
Great Spirit couldn't have figured out a better way to feed billions of
birds and bats than inventing damned mosquitos. Maybe it's the same deal
with these pesky ants. Must be a reason though.
Leland Hall
Before The Wheel Enterprises
La Pine Oregon

On Sun, 10 Nov 2002 20:45:18 EST, Cheryl Hoffman wrote:

>Come on Phil! If you've ever been bit by a fire ant, there is no more "Mr.
>or Ms Niceperson". Be nice to them, my ass! They are not indigenous to
the
>states, have come over the border and are steadily marching their way
across
>and up the states. They can take down and kill a cow! In Florida,
according
>to the last statistics I read, the fire ants are averaging 200 mounds per
>acre. I have seen my poor little granddaughter covered with bites...they
>love young tender flesh! I have no pity for them and will kill every one I
>see.
>Cher Gauvin
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John Kimpton Dellow on mon 11 nov 02

After all the posts on these pesky little buggers , I know what I
am
going to be in for if are not stopped in Brisbane ,which is about
50
mile north of me. They got into Australia last year .

John Dellow "the flower pot man"
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Dannon Rhudy on mon 11 nov 02

........They are not indigenous to the
> states, have come over the border and are steadily marching their way
across
> and up the states. They can take down and kill a cow.......

As nearly as entomologists can determine, fire ants were brought
to this country (from South America)by boat, into Mobile, Alabama.
In the thirties, apparently. They've spread steadily since. They have
no natural enemies here. Except, of course, me.......

regards

Dannon Rhudy

Miles G. Smith on sat 22 sep 07

I had a big nest of fire ant and didn't want to poison them. Gary Fey my =
renter knew just what to do. He coiled a #18 copper wire around his =
little finder tip and places three like rings at the three points of an =
equal lateral triangle large enough to encompass the larger nest =
underground. He just laid the rings on the ground. The next day the nest =
was busy haling up their eggs and they just marched away. They moved =
that nest about 20 feet away.=20

Miles

Miles G. Smith on sun 23 sep 07

They are good for the soil. The adobe soil here in Rinconada NM needs =
all the nutrients it can get from any and all sources.

They like to make their nest near the good things I like to eat and they =
will eat plants that I don't eat. So I discovered that I could get them =
to move by changing the negative energy that they need to a positive one =
with the copper rings. Now they can do their soil generation and I have =
them out of my garden.

Miles =20


Randall Moody asked:
Why wouldn't you want to get rid of them rather than just move then? =
They
are not an indigenous specie and they push out native species.

Randall Moody on sun 23 sep 07

Why wouldn't you want to get rid of them rather than just move then? They
are not an indigenous specie and they push out native species.

On 9/22/07, Miles G. Smith wrote:
>
> I had a big nest of fire ant and didn't want to poison them. Gary Fey my
> renter knew just what to do. He coiled a #18 copper wire around his little
> finder tip and places three like rings at the three points of an equal
> lateral triangle large enough to encompass the larger nest underground. He
> just laid the rings on the ground. The next day the nest was busy haling up
> their eggs and they just marched away. They moved that nest about 20 feet
> away.
>
> Miles
>
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Paisley Place on mon 24 sep 07

The building of Agriculture will send someone out to treat for fire ants in
the area in North Carolina where I live. I thought we had them a few years
ago because I was walking in the yard without any shoes on and I felt ants
biting me. I immediately called the Dept of Ag. They send out this
sweetheart of a man to check on them. It turned out to be a different
species of ant but one native to our area. He really wasn't supposed to do
so but he did treat the yard where they nested and treated around the house
so they would not enter the house when we had hot summers when there is
little to no water in the ground.



This year has been a horrible year for ants. I use Ant Terro or Terror. I
cannot recall the exact name because my girls' grandmother buys it for me.
It comes in either an orange or a red box. I wish I could be more specific
but I am colorblind to like colors. It is a squeeze bottle with a flip top.
The box has these little perforated disks that allow you to tear them loose
and place them in the ants' path where you add a few drops of the Terro
(which I will call it for the sake of argument) in their path line. They
take it because it is sweet, according to the directions my oldest daughter
read for me. They take the sweet poison back to their nest and it wipes out
the nest.



I hold a personal belief never to kill anything except my DH when he is
driving me up the freaking wall but even then I would opt to have the vet
neuter him instead so he will hurry up and make it through his mid-life
crisis already so we can begin living in the same house again as a family
but that is another story. Otherwise, I cannot bear to kill
things. I used to be an avid hunter with a rifle, shotgun, and a bow. When I
stopped eating wild game, I stopped hunting. If my abusive alcoholic father
taught me nothing else, he taught me never to kill more than I can eat when
it comes to hunting. It is probably one of the only lessons he ever taught
me that was worth taking throughout my entire life.



It annoys some of my friends because I have the girls or I catch moths,
crickets, and even spiders and then release them outside to their natural
habitat. I become extremely infuriated when someone ruins the yard for my
butterflies. They are the greatest natural pest control animals in the
world. Farmers spend small fortunes purchasing butterflies and keeping up
their boxes so they will stay to pollinate the crops and through the natural
chain of nature remove any pests that would otherwise damage a crop. I have
no problem with natural selection but I cannot stand ants in my house. The
only thing worse than ants is roaches, which I (knock hard on wood now)
never had ever in my home in all the years since I have been living on my
own.



Basically, everything else is safe to go back outside.



I did say that writers were quirky people.. If I had money, I would be
eccentric but since I don't have money, I guess that means I'm a nut,
perhaps an acorn. That's a beautiful nut.



Paisley

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