Liz Gowen on wed 27 nov 02
I had used freebees from the food industry when I first started out . Over
time these containers became brittle and just crumpled when I picked them
up. To our chemist/engineers on list Is this from our chemicals/clays that
we store in them or are there certain types of plastic to avoid. I have had
to replace all of these. There are also a couple I got from the dollar store
that I store slip in, these yellowed and also became brittle. The latter was
a clear softish plastic, the former a white plastic ( fish had come in). The
stertite and the 5 gallon pales have been fine for years 10+( fingers
crossed)
Liz Gowen
Re recycled platis containers
> this goes for most all food service outfitts
>
> > If you know anyone who runs a Baskin Robbins ice cream shop, well they
end
> up
> > trashing their nice containers with snap on lids....and they are FREE!
> > Can't beat that!
Janet Kaiser on thu 28 nov 02
Liz! I have been around long enough to realise you get what you pay for in
this world. Free plastic containers which are only manufactured for one-off
/ one-way use in the food industry, are NOT going to last a long time. They
simply are not made to do so. In fact, they are often made to be
bio-degradable these days, to help reduce the MOUNTAINS of rubbish
(garbage) the western world is producing.
You MAY find they last longer in complete darkness, but I would not count
on it myself. Same goes for cheap/inexpensive plastic right across the
board. That is why Tupperware is considered so good... It really does last
a lifetime. However, who could afford to buy their products to store glaze,
even if they did produce large enough containers?
You could try using re-cycled plastic paint containers... They at least
will have a longer "shelf-life" and not suffer from "chemical attack" in
the same way. But generally you are going to have to be a little more
vigilent in your "house-keeping". Use those freebies, but decant once a
year. I am sure that will solve your problem! It will also free up a lot of
space! Less to clean around! Must be good!
Sincerely
Janet Kaiser
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On 27/11/02 at 09:28 Liz Gowen wrote:
>I had used freebees from the food industry when I first started out . Over
>time these containers became brittle and just crumpled when I picked them
>up. To our chemist/engineers on list Is this from our chemicals/clays that
>we store in them or are there certain types of plastic to avoid. I have
had
>to replace all of these. There are also a couple I got from the dollar
store
>that I store slip in, these yellowed and also became brittle. The latter
was
>a clear softish plastic, the former a white plastic ( fish had come in).
The
>stertite and the 5 gallon pales have been fine for years 10+( fingers
>crossed)
Janet Kaiser
The Chapel of Art =95 Capel Celfyddyd
8 Marine Crescent, Criccieth LL52 0EA, Wales, UK
Tel: 01766-523570 URL: http://www.the-coa.org.uk
Hendrix, Taylor J. on sat 30 nov 02
Another possible source for the degredation of the plastic might also be =
the heat and/or=20
gasses produced by kiln/s near the glaze storage. I know that my =
teacher stores her
glaze buckets near (~8 feet) her kiln, in the same room, and quite a few =
of her buckets are
showing signs of breaking down.
Taylor,
in Waco, wishing we would hurry up and get a CrispyKreme so I can =
replace
my teacher's glaze bucktest. It's a hard job but someone has got to do =
it.
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On 27/11/02 at 09:28 Liz Gowen wrote:
>I had used freebees from the food industry when I first started out . =
Over
>time these containers became brittle and just crumpled when I picked =
them
>up.=20
Marcia Selsor on sun 1 dec 02
I was just cleaning up my email when I saw this.
I have glaze buckets from 30+ years ago. The only ones I have had break
down are the ones that have frozen. At least that is what I suspect.
Perhap sunlight might be detrimental also, but I don't think heat from a
kiln 8' away would be a problem. Does the room freeze when the kilns are
not running?
Marcia
Tuscany in 2003
http://home.attbi.com/~m.selsor/Tuscany2003.html
Russel Fouts on mon 2 dec 02
Marcia
>> I was just cleaning up my email when I saw this. I have glaze buckets from 30+ years ago. The only ones I have had break down are the ones that have frozen. At least that is what I suspect.
Perhap sunlight might be detrimental also, but I don't think heat from a
kiln 8' away would be a problem. Does the room freeze when the kilns are
not running? <<
It's sunlight. Since most potters' studios are underground, in cellars
and other dark places, the buckets are safe. But get them out into the
sunshine and, like Dracula, they come apart.
Russel (Getting his chemistry from B-grade horror films)
PS, Ask me about my theory regarding the Wolfman and Copper Reds. ;-)
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m markey on mon 9 dec 02
Hi Liz and Everybody!
Thin plastic does deteriorate over time. Out here in the desert, I'm
constantly replacing cheap blue plastic tarps from the roof (the roof
contractor will permanently replace the roof next spring!). Out here, thin
plastic lasts less than six months in the sun, perhaps a couple of months
longer indoors or in the shade.
I suggest getting thick plastic containers, such as the white five-gallon
paint containers (with lids) that Wal-Mart and other paint sellers offer,
for liquids, and clear thick plastic containers with covers, for storing dry
materials.
The best material for clay and glaze mineral storage is glass. One can buy
used glass storage containers at a used restaurant supply store, for a
reasonable price.
Best wishes!
Mohabee NakedClay@hotmail.com
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