vince pitelka on thu 19 dec 02
> (LOL) maybe this will induce the DA and the university to close down the
> sculpture department and open a ceramics department where they can teach
the perpetrator and his fellow students to do something "useful"
(functional)
> with their lives.
Bob -
I know this is tongue in cheek, or at least I assume it is. The sculpture
department is to be commended if they inspire the students to do work like
this. I am not saying it is the ONLY kind of work they should do, but it
would certainly be terrible to exclude such work, especially under the
delusion that it is less "useful" than functional pots.
Best wishes -
- Vince
Vince Pitelka
Appalachian Center for Crafts
Tennessee Technological University
1560 Craft Center Drive, Smithville TN 37166
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Bobbruch1@AOL.COM on thu 19 dec 02
The New York Times reported on Wednesday that a 25 year old freshman
foundation student was arrested for "reckless endangerment" for putting 37
black boxes in Union Station and painting the word "FEAR" on them. The
police assumed it was a potential terrorist threat and arrested him. I
believe that the District Attorney may actually press charges. He had planned
to photograph people's reaction to the boxes as a "performance piece."
(LOL) maybe this will induce the DA and the university to close down the
sculpture department and open a ceramics department where they can teach the
perpetrator and his fellow students to do something "useful" (functional)
with their lives.
Bob Bruch
Carol Ross on thu 19 dec 02
Nope... No self-respecting sculptor could ever be induced to do something
"useful" with their lives...
Carol
MFA Sculpture
> The New York Times reported on Wednesday that a 25 year old freshman
> foundation student was arrested for "reckless endangerment" for putting 37
> black boxes in Union Station and painting the word "FEAR" on them. The
> police assumed it was a potential terrorist threat and arrested him. I
> believe that the District Attorney may actually press charges. He had planned
> to photograph people's reaction to the boxes as a "performance piece."
>
> (LOL) maybe this will induce the DA and the university to close down the
> sculpture department and open a ceramics department where they can teach the
> perpetrator and his fellow students to do something "useful" (functional)
> with their lives.
>
> Bob Bruch
>
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Bobbruch1@AOL.COM on sat 21 dec 02
<<<<<or identify conceptual art, because there is lots of art out there that looks
pretty traditional, but is actually conceptual, because the artist chose the
technique and style purely to communicate the concept.
Vince, can you give some examples of this? Thanks, Bob
>>>>>(LOL) maybe this will induce the DA and the university to close down the
sculpture department and open a ceramics department where they can teach the
perpetrator and his fellow students to do something "useful" (functional)
with their lives.
<<<<
Vince: For purposes of netiqette, I have always assumed that "(LOL)" [which
means "laugh out loud"] in a statement means that irony is intended.
<<<<to do work like this. I am not saying it is the ONLY kind of work they
should do, but it would certainly be terrible to exclude such work,
especially under the delusion that it is less "useful" than functional pots.
The article didn't give that information. There are some departments which
encourage this type of work to the exclusion of all others, and I am not so
sure if that should be commended.
This was done in a freshman foundation class. I sometimes wonder about the
order of teaching between concepts and techniques. This is a personal
opinion, but I would think it is best approach is to teach technical skills
first and then move into the conceptual material. The people who I feel have
done the best job of translating concepts are those who have significant
technical abilities and could acomplish whatever they choose in their given
field, and then opt for a more conceptual approach. It often shows through
when I see an artist who is working with a purely conceptual manner simply
because they are not capable of doing anything else.
Bob Bruch
Vince Pitelka on sat 21 dec 02
I wrote:
"You get into some shifty territory when trying to define or identify
conceptual art, because there is lots of art out there that looks pretty
traditional, but is actually conceptual, because the artist chose the
technique and style purely to communicate the concept."
Bob wrote:
"Vince, can you give some examples of this? Thanks, Bob"
Bob -
I don't know how many of them I can remember now. I taught a course in
contemporary art one semester at NDSU about ten years ago, but have not
exactly kept up with the current directions in conceptual art. Allan
McCollum's simulationist pieces, including the giant ceramic vases,
certainly fit this category. I remember a mainstream conceptual
contemporary artist (can't recall the name) who creates reproductions of
great master works, but with his own image painted in place of the primary
character in the painting. Some of Cindy Sherman's altered photographs are
in this category as well. The works of Gilbert and George fit as well.
If I was at home in Tennessee I could look through my slides of contemporary
sculpture and find some more examples, but I am out in LA enjoying the
holidays with my family and two grandkids.
Best wishes -
- Vince
Vince Pitelka
Appalachian Center for Crafts
Tennessee Technological University
1560 Craft Center Drive, Smithville TN 37166
Home - vpitelka@dtccom.net
615/597-5376
Work - wpitelka@tntech.edu
615/597-6801 ext. 111, fax 615/597-6803
http://www.craftcenter.tntech.edu/
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