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writing on pre-fired greenware

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Kristi Johnston on wed 25 dec 02


Does anyone know of a product that can be used like a pen to write =
legibly on pre-fired bisqueware which will remain when glazed and fired? =
I am new to ceramics and thinking about a group writing names or dates =
on a platter, so I need some easy way of writing on it. Thanks for any =
help you can give me! From Newto Ceramics

Tony Olsen on thu 26 dec 02


Kristi:

Below is a link to Axner's under glaze pens. I don't necessarily =
endorse Axner, but they have good detailed information about the items. =
I've used these on Bisque and found that if the surface is smooth, it =
works pretty well. If it is rough, you get a fuzzier effect. Once the =
underglaze is laid down, you can use a small wet brush to bleed color =
around. Best bet would be to make a couple of tiles and experiment with =
them.

Good luck!
Tony (the one from Galveston)

http://www.pottery-books.com/cgi-local/axner/loadpage.cgi?user_id=3D42464=
446&file=3Dglazes/uglazepencils.html

Kay Howard & Phil Chaban on thu 26 dec 02


Hi Kristi--I have not done group writing on greenware--my thought is =
that smearing might be a problem--I have however taken a leather hard =
platter in a supportive form to special gatherings (dad's 80th birthday, =
small wedding receptions, etc.) and had the participants/guests incise =
their names and messages. I then took it home and fired and glazed. =
Just make sure the clay isn't too soft and you glaze it with something =
that highlights the incising. Makes a special gift. Kay

Kay in snow covered Grass Lake, MI Last of the Christmas mugs will be =
mailed out tomorrow--oops--I mean New Year's mugs. They are blue. =20

Bob Nicholson on thu 26 dec 02


>Does anyone know of a product that can be used like a pen to write
>legibly on pre-fired bisqueware which will remain when glazed and
>fired? I am new to ceramics and thinking about a group writing names
>or dates on a platter, so I need some easy way of writing on it.
>Thanks for any help you can give me! From Newto Ceramics

What you are looking for is called an "underglaze pen." If your local
supplier doesn't have them, you can buy several types online from
axner.com or bigceramicstore.com.

Ababi on fri 27 dec 02


There is another way, I have written before
This one is about black engob:
http://lsv.ceramics.org/scripts/wa.exe?A2=ind0105B&L=CLAYART&P=R637
Making the white or the colored ones is almost the same just use white base and
colored stains, mason or any other.
making the engob sticks as raw engob makes it soft mostly will work on greenware.
Defiantly on paperclay.
This is about vitreous engob:
http://lsv.ceramics.org/scripts/wa.exe?A2=ind0203D&L=CLAYART&P=R31211
Ababi Sharon
Glaze addict
Kibbutz Shoval Israel
ababisha@shoval.org.il
http://members4.clubphoto.com/ababi306910/
http://www.milkywayceramics.com/cgallery/asharon.htm
and also
http://www.israel-ceramics.org/membersGallery/personalpage.asp?MID=507
---------- Original Message ----------

>Hi Kristi--I have not done group writing on greenware--my thought is that
>smearing might be a problem--I have however taken a leather hard platter in a
>supportive form to special gatherings (dad's 80th birthday, small wedding
>receptions, etc.) and had the participants/guests incise their names and
>messages. I then took it home and fired and glazed. Just make sure the clay
>isn't too soft and you glaze it with something that highlights the incising. Makes
>a special gift. Kay

>Kay in snow covered Grass Lake, MI Last of the Christmas mugs will be
>mailed out tomorrow--oops--I mean New Year's mugs. They are blue.

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Christena Schafale on fri 27 dec 02


Kristi,

Try the Minnesota Markers from Minnesota Clay Company. They are just like
felt tip pens and are very easy to write with. I used them for wedding
platters I made. These were used in lieu of a guest book -- all the guests
signed them as they arrived at the reception. After the wedding, I glazed
and fired, then delivered to the bride and groom. One thing to remember --
you must bisque fire the work again after the writing is put on, and before
you glaze the pieces. On test pieces, I tried using the markers then
glazing without re-bisquing -- the writing completely disappeared!

Good luck,

Chris


At 09:03 PM 12/25/02 -0500, you wrote:
>Does anyone know of a product that can be used like a pen to write legibly
>on pre-fired bisqueware which will remain when glazed and fired? I am new
>to ceramics and thinking about a group writing names or dates on a
>platter, so I need some easy way of writing on it. Thanks for any help you
>can give me! From Newto Ceramics

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Sandy Cryer on fri 27 dec 02


The best ones i've tried are from Great Lakes Clay
(http://www.greatclay.com/glazeze.htm)
The "midnight" is black, fired to cone 6 is matt, I've never covered with a
glaze.
Sandy Cryer

Sandy Cryer on fri 27 dec 02


In a message dated 12/27/2002 6:08:35 AM US Mountain Standard Time,
christenas@RFSNC.ORG writes:


> . On test pieces, I tried using the markers then
> glazing without re-bisquing -- the writing completely disappeared

I had trouble with these dissappearing no matter what I did. I finally
called to company and they said I have to fire them alone. Well that wasn't
going to happen, so as I said in a previous post the "markers" from Great
Lakes clay worked the best!! http://www.greatclay.com/glazeze.htm
Sandy Cryer