Diane Mead on thu 2 jan 03
Hi to all:
In firing our newest kiln, a new glaze made by one of my students ran a
good bit.
Since I did not load this kiln, (that was dumb of me to begin with), I did
not notice
it was a newly made glaze we'd yet to test.
So it ran off the pot--great looking glaze, but now there is a small
(small) puddle
on the kiln floor--which I had yet to kiln wash. Please chastise me
heartily, but be kind.
I am going to kiln wash the whole thing NOW but do I want to chip out all
of that old glaze on
the pristine firebrick surface???
I've never had this occur before so I am quite sad.
Plus, I do not see anything in the archives of such a numbskull mistake.
I may get an award for dumbest thing ever....
Chastise away. My guilt will keep me going for weeks!
Thanks, everybody,
diane mead
John Rodgers on thu 2 jan 03
Diane, you can rent a small grinder for $6-$9 for a day and take that
glaze drip right out there and not wind up with a chipped out place in
the bottom.. Since the grinding wheel is a consumable you have to buy it
as an extra, but it is well worth it. Costs about $1.50.
BTDT.
Good luck.
John Rodgers
Birmingham, AL
Diane Mead wrote:
>Hi to all:
>In firing our newest kiln, a new glaze made by one of my students ran a
>good bit.
>Since I did not load this kiln, (that was dumb of me to begin with), I did
>not notice
>it was a newly made glaze we'd yet to test.
>So it ran off the pot--great looking glaze, but now there is a small
>(small) puddle
>on the kiln floor--which I had yet to kiln wash. Please chastise me
>heartily, but be kind.
>I am going to kiln wash the whole thing NOW but do I want to chip out all
>of that old glaze on
>the pristine firebrick surface???
>I've never had this occur before so I am quite sad.
>Plus, I do not see anything in the archives of such a numbskull mistake.
>I may get an award for dumbest thing ever....
>Chastise away. My guilt will keep me going for weeks!
>Thanks, everybody,
>diane mead
>
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Ms Noel on thu 2 jan 03
Diane,
A very simple suggestion would be to remove the glaze and if not too deep
patch with some "ceramic fill" and then put a full shelf on 1" posts over
the bottom of the kiln. In the 60's we were taught to never fire on the
bottom of the kiln.
I'm sure you will get many more advanced techniques, but I like to KIS!
Noel - sunny Georgia north of Atlanta
----- Original Message -----
From: "Diane Mead"
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Sent: Thursday, January 02, 2003 9:03 AM
Subject: SMALL amount of glaze
> Hi to all:
> In firing our newest kiln, a new glaze made by one of my students ran a
> good bit.
> Since I did not load this kiln, (that was dumb of me to begin with), I did
> not notice
> it was a newly made glaze we'd yet to test.
> So it ran off the pot--great looking glaze, but now there is a small
> (small) puddle
> on the kiln floor--which I had yet to kiln wash. Please chastise me
> heartily, but be kind.
> I am going to kiln wash the whole thing NOW but do I want to chip out all
> of that old glaze on
> the pristine firebrick surface???
> I've never had this occur before so I am quite sad.
> Plus, I do not see anything in the archives of such a numbskull mistake.
> I may get an award for dumbest thing ever....
> Chastise away. My guilt will keep me going for weeks!
> Thanks, everybody,
> diane mead
>
>
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Alisa Liskin Clausen on thu 2 jan 03
Dear Diane,
Glaze wash will not protect your pots from sticking to glass under it. I
can understand that you are upset that it is on the kiln floor. If it is a
very small puddle, I would chip if off as carefully as possible, removing as
little brick as possible. Maybe some others have a trick, but I do not know
of any other than removing the glaze puddle. Otherwise, you can elevate
your kiln floor by setting shelves on very low stilts. I always fire with
shelves on the bottom, elevated about 3 inches.
I am equally upset sometimes when I see how much brick I have lost from
banging edges of kiln shelves into my one year old kiln. I think I am being
careful and even then, things happen. Cheer up, as you know it could be
much worse!
regards from Alisa in Denmark
Had that New Year's day swim Wednesday. My friend in North Carolina wonders
why anyone would want to take their clothes off and go into freezing water.
I didn't, this year I left my boots on.
(It was really cold this year, -5c. and ice caps.)
My 9 year old got out as well. What a camper she is!
> I am going to kiln wash the whole thing NOW but do I want to chip out all
> of that old glaze on
> the pristine firebrick surface???
Jocelyn McAuley on thu 2 jan 03
Oh Diane
I feel your pain. I had the same thing happen in a single fire
experiment- crystal glaze popped off my pots on to the floor of my new
kiln (which was coated- lot of good that did here).
Drill or pick out the glaze so that it doesn't remelt with each fire. And
patch with kiln cement.
Good Luck
Jocelyn
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Eugene, Oregon http://www.ceramicism.com
william schran on thu 2 jan 03
Diane - The same thing happened right before the Christmas break at
school. A student loaded a crystalline glaze firing with pots too
close to the kiln shelf edge and one of the glazes ran over the catch
basin and on to the kiln floor. I don't wash the kiln bottoms. I've
had this happen previously, though in a minor way and I've simply
chipped out the glazed area which you must do otherwise it will
continue to eat through the brick in each successive firing. With
this last incident, it's bad enough that I will need to disassemble
(unstack) the kiln and flip the bottom over. If you have a sectional
kiln with separate bottom you could do the same.
Bill
Earl Brunner on thu 2 jan 03
If you are talking about insulating firebrick, then you do want to chip
it out I think. Otherwise it will have a tendency to continue eating
into the brick with each subsequent firing. I wouldn't fire on the bare
floor any way. I would recommend having kiln washed shelves on the
bottom of either a gas or electric kiln, if electric, and you use a
vent, you might want to lift it up off of the bottom of the kiln an inch
or so.
Earl Brunner
Diane Mead wrote:
> Hi to all:
> In firing our newest kiln, a new glaze made by one of my students ran a
> good bit.
> Since I did not load this kiln, (that was dumb of me to begin with), I did
> not notice
> it was a newly made glaze we'd yet to test.
> So it ran off the pot--great looking glaze, but now there is a small
> (small) puddle
> on the kiln floor--which I had yet to kiln wash. Please chastise me
> heartily, but be kind.
> I am going to kiln wash the whole thing NOW but do I want to chip out all
> of that old glaze on
> the pristine firebrick surface???
> I've never had this occur before so I am quite sad.
> Plus, I do not see anything in the archives of such a numbskull mistake.
> I may get an award for dumbest thing ever....
> Chastise away. My guilt will keep me going for weeks!
> Thanks, everybody,
> diane mead
>
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Carol Tripp on fri 3 jan 03
First of all, Diane, take deep breath and then say, "We learn from our
mistakes." Dump the guilt and go forward with the lesson learned that new
glazes must be closely supervised; try using thin sheets of clay "cookies"
under tests.
Some time ago, Clayart discussed firing on the kiln base and the consensus
of opinion was that it is ok to bisque fire directly on the base but glaze
firing would best be done on a shelf with short posts under it - mainly due
to the glaze running accidents. I've done a few glaze firings directly on
the base and I used cookies to insure against drips on the base. All went
well.
Best regards,
Carol
Dubai, UAE
Diane wrote, in part:
>In firing our newest kiln, a new glaze made by one of my students ran a
>good bit.
>Since I did not load this kiln, (that was dumb of me to begin with), I did
>not notice
>it was a newly made glaze we'd yet to test.
>So it ran off the pot--great looking glaze, but now there is a small
>(small) puddle
>on the kiln floor--which I had yet to kiln wash. Please chastise me
>heartily, but be kind.
>
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John Rodgers on fri 3 jan 03
Alisa Liskin Clausen wrote
>Had that New Year's day swim Wednesday. My friend in North Carolina wonders
>why anyone would want to take their clothes off and go into freezing water.
>I didn't, this year I left my boots on.
>(It was really cold this year, -5c. and ice caps.)
>
>
>
For those who have seen it, the opening scene in the film "The Hunt for
Red October" is of a supposed Russian atomic submarine in a cold
northern inlet somewhere in Russian territory. It jjust so happens that
scene was filmed in winter in Prince William Sound, in Resurrection Bay,
at the head of which resides Seward, Alaska.. Each year there is a
"polar bear" swim there, whereby hearty locals and a few others take a
leap off a pier in the harbor into the icey waters of the bay, to
demonstrate just what hearty Alaskans they are. One year a grizzled old
sourdough showed up wearing nothing but cowboy boots, a Stetson hat, and
a pair of red longhandle underwear with a long pink ribbon hanging out
the fly in front. Someone in the crowd asked what the string was for,
and he replied with a wink "That is to aid me finding things after I
take my swim!!"
Yep, that water in Resurrection Bay does get cold!!
John Rodgers
Birmingham, AL USA
Diane Mead on fri 3 jan 03
Dear Earl:
You and all 12 other experts are in 100% agreement.
Snail was the first respondent, and all other
opinions mirrored his 100%.
Thanks for the help!
diane
Diane Mead on fri 3 jan 03
Thank you dear!!!
Your advice is mirrored by all experts!!!
Happy New Year,
diane
Diane Mead on fri 3 jan 03
AHA and eureka!
What a smart thing to do.
You win for the most creative idea--though
a bit labor intensive I would be cement free!
Thanks for the help and for not
chastising!
best wishes,
diane
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