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digital film - tape to cd?

updated thu 23 jan 03

 

Tony Ferguson on wed 15 jan 03


Yes,

You will probably need special software such as DAZZLE and its video in/out
interface (if you have a PC). If you have a mac, then check in the back of
the computer for in and outs and go directily from your camera into the
computer, start the video editing software. You may need to "acquire" to
tell the program to find the camera and receiva the video. Going from the
camera into the computer will allow you 2nd generation instead of 3rd where
the quality wouldn't be as good. The software, assuming you have it, will
give you rip and burn options (formats) and optimization features for the
video. You will probably need to (and should) read the manual. Have fun.

Thank you.

Tony Ferguson
On Lake Superior, where the sky meets the Lake

Stoneware, Porcelain, Raku
www.aquariusartgallery.com
218-727-6339
315 N. Lake Ave
Apt 312
Duluth, MN 55806


----- Original Message -----
From: "L. P. Skeen"
To:
Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2003 8:32 AM
Subject: Digital film - tape to CD?


I made a digital videotape of a recent workshop that I need to get from the
little tape in the camera onto VHS and also onto the computer so I can edit
it and save to CD. I borrowed the camera from a friend, and there are no
instructions but there ARE a lot of cable thingies in the bag. I can
probably figure out how to get it onto a VHS tape, but how do I get it onto
a CD? Do I need some kind of special software?

Thanks
L



L. P. Skeen www.living-tree.net
Living Tree Studios, Summerfield, NC
"I have yet to hear a man ask for advice
on how to combine a marriage and career."

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L. P. Skeen on wed 15 jan 03


I made a digital videotape of a recent workshop that I need to get from =
the little tape in the camera onto VHS and also onto the computer so I =
can edit it and save to CD. I borrowed the camera from a friend, and =
there are no instructions but there ARE a lot of cable thingies in the =
bag. I can probably figure out how to get it onto a VHS tape, but how =
do I get it onto a CD? Do I need some kind of special software?

Thanks
L



L. P. Skeen www.living-tree.net
Living Tree Studios, Summerfield, NC
"I have yet to hear a man ask for advice=20
on how to combine a marriage and career."

Anita Rickenberg on thu 16 jan 03


"I would suggest go to tigerdirect.com....have been a very happy customer"

Don't want to go off on a tangent, but I had to comment that based on
personal experience, Tigerdirect.com is fine as long as you never have to
deal with their customer service. I had a problem with an order and it was
a horrible experience. My total cost for a defective item: $30.00 return
shipping for defective item (never re-imbursed), 6 hours total on phone on
hold, and 6 weeks with my PC in pieces.
Anita

Janet Price on thu 16 jan 03


>I made a digital videotape of a recent workshop that I need to get from the
>little tape in the camera onto VHS and also onto the computer so I can edit
>it and save to CD. I borrowed the camera from a friend, and there are no
>instructions but there ARE a lot of cable thingies in the bag. I can
>probably figure out how to get it onto a VHS tape, but how do I get it onto
>a CD? Do I need some kind of special software?

You may be able to go directly from the camera to a CD with the appropriate
cables and computer setup. I've some experience with Movie Maker 2 on a
Windows XP computer with an Allinwonder board. I ran a cable from the
videocamera to the front of the vcr and then captured that way but it's
possible to bypass the vcr. Once you get the stuff into Movie Maker,
editing it is pretty easy. I have a first draft at a tutorial online for
using Movie Maker. If you decide to go that route and want to ask me
questions off-list, email me at jkprice@amherst.edu.

Janet Price

Working Potter on thu 16 jan 03


I would suggest go to tigerdirect.com and look at pinnacle systems and match
the system that interfaces your camera to your particular camera.The prices
are now affordable and Hollywood edits with the top of this line.I have no
connection to tigerdirect.com but have been a very happy customer.
Misty

bea pix on thu 16 jan 03


yes, something like final cut pro, adobe premiere or one of the
smaller packages like the one that comes with the imacs, (if you're
on a mac platform). once you get the software, or, more economically
(unless you plan on doing this again in the future), someone who has
the software to pay to edit it, they wont bother to transfer the tape
to vhs until the very end, when it's finally edited, so don't worry
about the cables now.

>I made a digital videotape of a recent workshop that I need to get
>from the little tape in the camera onto VHS and also onto the
>computer so I can edit it and save to CD. I borrowed the camera
>from a friend, and there are no instructions but there ARE a lot of
>cable thingies in the bag. I can probably figure out how to get it
>onto a VHS tape, but how do I get it onto a CD? Do I need some kind
>of special software?
>
>Thanks
>L
>
>
>
>L. P. Skeen www.living-tree.net
>Living Tree Studios, Summerfield, NC
>"I have yet to hear a man ask for advice
>on how to combine a marriage and career."
>
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>Send postings to clayart@lsv.ceramics.org
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L. P. Skeen on sat 18 jan 03


Hey Janet,

Where do you get the movie maker software and how much is it?

Thanks
L
----- Original Message -----
From: "Janet Price"
To:
Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2003 4:30 AM
Subject: Re: Digital film - tape to CD?


> >I made a digital videotape of a recent workshop that I need to get from
the
> >little tape in the camera onto VHS and also onto the computer so I can
edit
> >it and save to CD. I borrowed the camera from a friend, and there are no
> >instructions but there ARE a lot of cable thingies in the bag. I can
> >probably figure out how to get it onto a VHS tape, but how do I get it
onto
> >a CD? Do I need some kind of special software?
>
> You may be able to go directly from the camera to a CD with the
appropriate
> cables and computer setup. I've some experience with Movie Maker 2 on a
> Windows XP computer with an Allinwonder board. I ran a cable from the
> videocamera to the front of the vcr and then captured that way but it's
> possible to bypass the vcr. Once you get the stuff into Movie Maker,
> editing it is pretty easy. I have a first draft at a tutorial online for
> using Movie Maker. If you decide to go that route and want to ask me
> questions off-list, email me at jkprice@amherst.edu.
>
> Janet Price
>
>
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Jim Tabor on sat 18 jan 03


More info is needed to offer specific advice. Email me directly and I
can answer questions concerning connections, editing, compression, and
limitations of puttting you film on CD.

If you can find a friend with a Mac that isn't more than a couple of
years old (with alot of empty hard drive space), they would have a
version of iMovie for editing. A CD burner is needed, but if your movie
is going to be very long, look for someone that can put it on DVD. The
CD limits image quality as well as the film's length. Newer Macs with a
superdrive(burn DVD and CD) and enough hard drive to give you better
frame rate and larger movie size may be needed for your project. Editing
in iMovie is easy and with iMovie2, your project will be much better.
High end software will offer many more options if needed.

Consider when you put 30 min. of digital video on a computer to edit, it
will take about 8+ gigabites of hard drive space. Resolution at full
screen may be over 1MB per frame times the number of frames per second.
Converting this to a CD requires choices that will reduce the quality of
the origional. To get more video on the CD, you may need to create the
movie at 1/4 screen size and drop down from 30+ frames per second to
12fps (not as smooth movement in the subject but a longer video). Unless
you go to DVD, you're likely to have the best movie on VHS. After the
edit on the computer, copy it back to the camera, and transfer from the
camera onto VHS. I sponsor the media club at school and have a student
able to make DVDs (I'm limited to only making CDs). If you need the
help, I could get it onto a CD (if it isn't too long) or ask John to put
it on DVD from the edited video if you want to send me a copy. There are
also companys to do the service for you that don't charge very much. You
could call local schools to see if they have a media class or club to
get the help of a student for your project.
Good luck,

Jim Tabor
http://www.members.cox.net/taborj/index.html

L. P. Skeen wrote:

>I made a digital videotape of a recent workshop that I need to get from the little tape in the camera onto VHS and also onto the computer so I can edit it and save to CD. I borrowed the camera from a friend, and there are no instructions but there ARE a lot of cable thingies in the bag. I can probably figure out how to get it onto a VHS tape, but how do I get it onto a CD? Do I need some kind of special software?
>
>Thanks
>L
>
>
>
>L. P. Skeen www.living-tree.net
>Living Tree Studios, Summerfield, NC
>"I have yet to hear a man ask for advice
>on how to combine a marriage and career."
>
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>
>
>

Linda Knapp on tue 21 jan 03


It can be done - But you need several pieces -

1) some kind of connection into the computer from Camera - if the camera
has a firewire (IEEE 1394 or iLink) connection (IF it is a digital 8 it
probably does have this) and if your computer has a similar connection
that is the best option. Another option is going through the rca jacks
into a video capture card of some kind. BTW: You can probably find
camera operating manuals on the web by searching the Manufacturer's site
- if this is a Sony camera be patient their site is not user friendly
but the manuals are there.....

2) A lot of disk space - videos take quite a lot of room and if you are
going to be editing you will need more.....

3) Editing Software - a very good option is VirtualDub
http://www.virtualdub.org/ - which happens to be open source and most
importantly FREE. I like it better than several other programs I have
used and paid for.

4) Software to convert the final file into a VideoCD if you want to
watch it on a DVD / VCD player some editing programs will do this.

5) CD Burner

Newer MACs have a lot of the needed connectors and software as do newer
high end Sonys (PCs)

ALl that said:
Forgive me but the way you asked this question makes me think that your
time may be better spent finding someone to do this for you..... There
are services which will convert tapes to different formats and VCD or DVD.

Good Luck!
Linda

L. P. Skeen wrote:
> I made a digital videotape of a recent workshop that I need to get from the little tape in the camera onto VHS and also onto the computer so I can edit it and save to CD. I borrowed the camera from a friend, and there are no instructions but there ARE a lot of cable thingies in the bag. I can probably figure out how to get it onto a VHS tape, but how do I get it onto a CD? Do I need some kind of special software?
>
> Thanks
> L
>
>
>
> L. P. Skeen www.living-tree.net
> Living Tree Studios, Summerfield, NC
> "I have yet to hear a man ask for advice
> on how to combine a marriage and career."
>
> ______________________________________________________________________________
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