Bruce Freund on wed 15 jan 03
I own a Petter Puger De-air machine and I am not happy with the results. I
only purchased it to replace hand wedging and NOT to reclaim or re-mix clay.
I was told that the Peter Pugger was the wrong choice and that I should have
purchased a Venco De-air pugger as it would do a MUCH better job if my main
goal was wedging.
Any comments from the owners of either machine?????
Bruce
L. P. Skeen on thu 16 jan 03
I have the PP VPM20, which I got both for recycling and for
wedging-replacement. I have been very happy with all but the very first pug
off any batch. The first pug comes out with a big hole in the middle
instead of being solid and de-aired. Otherwise, no complaints. :)
L
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bruce Freund"
To:
Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2003 10:00 AM
Subject: Peter Pugger or Venco
> I own a Petter Puger De-air machine and I am not happy with the results. I
> only purchased it to replace hand wedging and NOT to reclaim or re-mix
clay.
> I was told that the Peter Pugger was the wrong choice and that I should
have
> purchased a Venco De-air pugger as it would do a MUCH better job if my
main
> goal was wedging.
>
> Any comments from the owners of either machine?????
>
> Bruce
>
>
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Tom's E-mail on thu 16 jan 03
L.,
I have a Peter Pugger and love it. I consider it the best pottery purchase I
ever made. I use it to recycle clay and run thru all new bags.
Tom Sawyer
tsawyer@cfl.rr.com
Martin Howard on thu 16 jan 03
Bruce, I find the Venco 3inch de airer perfect for my use.
I have no problems now with my thumb muscles, which I did have from 20 years
of wedging.
I just cone up and down 3 times before throwing the pot. The clay feels in
perfect throwing condition with no air pockets.
Martin Howard
Webbs Cottage Pottery
Woolpits Road, Great Saling
BRAINTREE, Essex CM7 5DZ
01371 850 423
martin@webbscottage.co.uk
http://www.webbscottage.co.uk
Updated 2nd January 2003
Craig Edwards on thu 16 jan 03
Bruce;
I got a Venco 4" pug mill about 15 years ago. I am completely satisfied with
it. It does what it says it will do and has stood up to the use (abuse) that
we put it through.
I have never had a Peter Pugger or really known anyone near that has had
one. I'm also curious as to how it performs.
Craig Edwards
New London
>I own a Petter Puger De-air machine and I am not happy with the results. I
>only purchased it to replace hand wedging and NOT to reclaim or re-mix
>clay.
>I was told that the Peter Pugger was the wrong choice and that I should
>have
>purchased a Venco De-air pugger as it would do a MUCH better job if my main
>goal was wedging.
>
>Any comments from the owners of either machine?????
>
>Bruce
>
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Olivia T Cavy on thu 16 jan 03
I am very fond of my Peter Pugger VPM-30 I do not get the hole in the
middle on the first pug.
However, as I've written to the original poster who was not pleased with
her Peter Pugger, that you have to be aware that it is a batch processor,
and that the PP hopper needs to be full in order to work well.
My PP changed my approach to clay. Because I no longer had to deal with
manual recycling, I was more willing to give up on a piece that was not
going well, rather than work it to death. I was liberated from a task
I hated. Now I dump those pieces that were going south anyway into the PP
hopper and start anew. I throw, extrude and roll the clay directly from
the PP, although I still wheel wedging to be necessary.
This is not a paid testimonial. I have no relationship with the
manufacturer, except as a satisfied customer. (I've never used any other
pug mill, de-airing or otherwise.)
Bonnie
On Thu, 16 Jan 2003 09:51:15 -0500 "L. P. Skeen"
writes:
> I have the PP VPM20, which I got both for recycling and for
> wedging-replacement. I have been very happy with all but the very
> first pug
> off any batch. The first pug comes out with a big hole in the
> middle
> instead of being solid and de-aired. Otherwise, no complaints. :)
>
> L
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Bruce Freund"
> To:
> Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2003 10:00 AM
> Subject: Peter Pugger or Venco
>
>
> > I own a Petter Puger De-air machine and I am not happy with the
> results. I
> > only purchased it to replace hand wedging and NOT to reclaim or
> re-mix
> clay.
> > I was told that the Peter Pugger was the wrong choice and that I
> should
> have
> > purchased a Venco De-air pugger as it would do a MUCH better job
> if my
> main
> > goal was wedging.
> >
> > Any comments from the owners of either machine?????
> >
> > Bruce
> >
> >
> _______
>
Bonnie D. Hellman, CPA
First Capital Corp., Pittsburgh, PA
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PA home email: mou10man@sgi.net (that's the number 10 in the middle of
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Bruce Girrell on thu 16 jan 03
> The first pug comes out with a big hole in the middle
> instead of being solid and de-aired.
Lisa, That doesn't sound right. I have the VPM 30 and have never seen
anything like that. The first log out of the nozzle is simply the last stuff
that didn't get pushed out from the previous run. I don't know what
differences there are between the VPM 20 and VPM 30, but I suggest a call to
the company. My experiences with their technical support have been very
positive.
Bruce Girrell
Vince Pitelka on fri 17 jan 03
Perhaps it needs to be clarified that the person who asked this question was
wondering which machine is better if one wants to use it primarily to wedge
clay. So could we stay away from the dripping prose of how great the Peter
Pugger is for recycling? Most of us already know that.
Best wishes -
- Vince
Vince Pitelka
Appalachian Center for Crafts
Tennessee Technological University
1560 Craft Center Drive, Smithville TN 37166
Home - vpitelka@dtccom.net
615/597-5376
Work - wpitelka@tntech.edu
615/597-6801 ext. 111, fax 615/597-6803
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