Chirs Greenman on sun 9 feb 03
Got back last night from the clay conference. It was held at Spain park high
school just outside Birmingham. Great as usual. Peter King is really
something if you get the chance to see him it is worth it. Scott Meyer and
Lowell Baker built a small --yes small--two chamber centenary arch wood/gas
kiln with brick and refractory. Rosemary Gault did her paper clay gig and
Barbara Piper Simon did a precious metal clay workshop. As the photos will
tell you I spent most of my time with the kiln builders. The visuals were
great the high school that hosted has better audio visuals than our higher
ed inst. Beats any high school budget...three art instructors....the school
looks like a small junior college.
See my attempts at photography at www.fotki.com/cgreen
cgreenman3@knology.net
Dave Finkelnburg on sun 9 feb 03
Chris,
Thanks for posting your pictures! I went through the kiln photos first
thing. Neat little kiln!
What was the recipe on the cardboard for? The refractory for the second
cat? What temperature is it supposed to be able to handle? Thanks!
Dave Finkelnburg, kiln design addict in Idaho
----- Original Message -----
From: "Chirs Greenman"
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Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2003 1:39 PM
Subject: ALABAMA Clay Conference..photos
> Got back last night from the clay conference. It was held at Spain park
high
> school just outside Birmingham. Great as usual. Peter King is really
> something if you get the chance to see him it is worth it. Scott Meyer and
> Lowell Baker built a small --yes small--two chamber centenary arch
wood/gas
> kiln with brick and refractory. Rosemary Gault did her paper clay gig and
> Barbara Piper Simon did a precious metal clay workshop. As the photos will
> tell you I spent most of my time with the kiln builders. The visuals were
> great the high school that hosted has better audio visuals than our higher
> ed inst. Beats any high school budget...three art instructors....the
school
> looks like a small junior college.
>
> See my attempts at photography at www.fotki.com/cgreen
>
> cgreenman3@knology.net
>
>
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Chirs Greenman on mon 10 feb 03
Yes that was the recipe for the castable cat. Lowell's recipe...
glad you enjoyed
Chris
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From: Clayart [mailto:CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG]On Behalf Of Dave
Finkelnburg
Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2003 7:18 PM
To: CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG
Subject: Re: ALABAMA Clay Conference..photos
Chris,
Thanks for posting your pictures! I went through the kiln photos first
thing. Neat little kiln!
What was the recipe on the cardboard for? The refractory for the second
cat? What temperature is it supposed to be able to handle? Thanks!
Dave Finkelnburg, kiln design addict in Idaho
----- Original Message -----
From: "Chirs Greenman"
To:
Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2003 1:39 PM
Subject: ALABAMA Clay Conference..photos
> Got back last night from the clay conference. It was held at Spain park
high
> school just outside Birmingham. Great as usual. Peter King is really
> something if you get the chance to see him it is worth it. Scott Meyer and
> Lowell Baker built a small --yes small--two chamber centenary arch
wood/gas
> kiln with brick and refractory. Rosemary Gault did her paper clay gig and
> Barbara Piper Simon did a precious metal clay workshop. As the photos will
> tell you I spent most of my time with the kiln builders. The visuals were
> great the high school that hosted has better audio visuals than our higher
> ed inst. Beats any high school budget...three art instructors....the
school
> looks like a small junior college.
>
> See my attempts at photography at www.fotki.com/cgreen
>
> cgreenman3@knology.net
>
>
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LOWELL BAKER on tue 11 feb 03
Chris: I down loaded your photos of the kiln building onto a disk for
my ceramics student reading room. I hope they look at them.
Nice documentation of the kiln.
Lowell
Chirs Greenman on tue 11 feb 03
Hey Lowell,
Glad you liked the pictures. I am getting a slab poured today for my kiln. I
am going to build the 20 cu. ft. downdraft kiln that is in the "Kiln
Building with Space Age materials"--chapter three... book that came out in
the 70's. I am planning the following changes: They call for three homemade
burners ..(alfred burners??) which I am going to go with two forced air
burners so that I can cut down on chimney height and have more control and
no blowouts; they call for insulating fiber board sandwiched between two
layers of fire brick for the floor of the kiln...I will go with one or two
layers of smaller cheaper hardbricks as floor then I am going to use regular
hard 2600 bricks to lay the floor... I am also going to make a channel down
the center of the kiln so that the heat pulls down the center under the
floor....the burners will be placed at the same side as the chimney....the
door will be opposite...rather than brick up the door with soft or hard
brick I will pour separate larger units like you did for the door of the
kiln in Hoover.
gotta go the concrete is here
Chris
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From: Clayart [mailto:CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG]On Behalf Of LOWELL BAKER
Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2003 11:23 AM
To: CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG
Subject: Re: ALABAMA Clay Conference..photos
Chris: I down loaded your photos of the kiln building onto a disk for
my ceramics student reading room. I hope they look at them.
Nice documentation of the kiln.
Lowell
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Janet Moe / Paul Bailey on sat 22 feb 03
Thanks for the photos! I noticed that the concrete blocks for the kiln
foundation were set with the holes vertical rather than horizontal. As I
am in the process of setting up the blocks for my kiln foundation I am
wondering what is the advantage of this. Would like to hear any opinions
either way. TIA
Janet, a beautiful sunny and frosty day on Denman Island, British
Columbia . It's my birthday and I'm going to spend the day cleaning and
sorting bricks for my kiln. Woo Hoo!!!!
Chirs Greenman wrote:
>
>See my attempts at photography at www.fotki.com/cgreen
>
>cgreenman3@knology.net
>
Chirs Greenman on sun 23 feb 03
Some of us were wondering the same thing. I think that I read in the kiln
building article by Ruggles and Rankin in Studio Potter a few years back
that the option to lay the blocks with the holes horizontal was good for air
circulation under the kiln. I am making a small sprung arch - 30 ft.3 kiln
in my back yard this month and will lay the block with the holes horizontal.
The blocks of course are made to be stronger the other way. Also look at the
kiln building page on John Baymore's site. He puts them horizontal. Some how
I just don't like the idea that all kinds of crap can fall into those holes
if the bock is laid vertically.
Good luck,
Chris
getting my brick today :)
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From: Clayart [mailto:CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG]On Behalf Of Janet Moe /
Paul Bailey
Sent: Saturday, February 22, 2003 10:57 AM
To: CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG
Subject: Re: ALABAMA Clay Conference..photos
Thanks for the photos! I noticed that the concrete blocks for the kiln
foundation were set with the holes vertical rather than horizontal. As I
am in the process of setting up the blocks for my kiln foundation I am
wondering what is the advantage of this. Would like to hear any opinions
either way. TIA
Janet, a beautiful sunny and frosty day on Denman Island, British
Columbia . It's my birthday and I'm going to spend the day cleaning and
sorting bricks for my kiln. Woo Hoo!!!!
Chirs Greenman wrote:
>
>See my attempts at photography at www.fotki.com/cgreen
>
>cgreenman3@knology.net
>
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Vince Pitelka on sun 23 feb 03
> Some of us were wondering the same thing. I think that I read in the kiln
> building article by Ruggles and Rankin in Studio Potter a few years back
> that the option to lay the blocks with the holes horizontal was good for
air
> circulation under the kiln. I am making a small sprung arch .
I worry about this, because there is so much discrepancy in the quality of
concrete blocks. In block buildings, the holes always point upwards, even
if they are not filled with cement. They never ever lay load-bearing blocks
with the openings to the side, because the blocks have so little
load-bearing capacity that way. I don't like the idea of putting a heavy
kiln on blocks laid sideways, especially a hardbrick kiln. I don't
recommend it.
I don't see any need for air circulation under the kiln, as long as the
refractory floor is adequately designed. Lots of people build kilns right
on concrete slabs without raising them up on blocks. As long as you use two
layers of softbrick laid flat and one of hard brick as the hotface surface
(or one layer of softbrick and two layers of hardbrick), you will be fine,
with no excessive buildup of heat beneath the kiln.
With the blocks facing up, it is a simple matter to cover them with a sheet
of heavy sheet metal or expanded metal, or if you don't mind another 3" of
lift, use a layer of inexpensive 3" concrete capblocks that fit over the
standard concrete blocks.
Best wishes -
- Vince
Vince Pitelka
Appalachian Center for Craft
Tennessee Technological University
1560 Craft Center Drive, Smithville TN 37166
Home - vpitelka@dtccom.net
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