Tony Ferguson on sat 15 feb 03
Claybuds,
I also just received the same "request" from owner of the "Boston wheel."
And, I had laugh. Earl has said everything I felt like saying. (see below)
The last time I checked this was a free non-fascist country--could this be
changing?
Maybe I will throw down the glove to the Boston wheel and request a
"gladiator" trial period where I will give it a thumbs up or down.
I could invite all the local potty people and they do battle with the
evasive wheel nobody seems to know anything about other than we don't know
anything.
Better yet, maybe they will consider coming to NCECA and see how the wheel
stands up to the competition?
We can throw on all the wheels and discuss freely our "opinions" on its
performance.
Isn't a public forum grand? We actually get to express our opinions without
any fear of repercussions.
I recently sent this email to them:
"Please send technical specifications on your wheel: motor size (i.e. 1/4
1/2 horse pow. etc), type of drive, etc. Your specs are currently
passworded and this is no help to you in the pottery community as we are in
the habit of trying and potentially recommending or buying new wheels--even
smaller ones for demos. If your product is solid, then word spreads fast
and you may have potential sales on your hands. If your presentation of
your products is vague and elusive, then we have nothing to go on or say in
support of a good product when someone asks us about your or another
manufacture's wheel."
Fergy
Thank you.
Tony Ferguson
On Lake Superior, where the sky meets the Lake
Stoneware, Porcelain, Raku and more
by Coleman, Ferguson, Winchester...
www.aquariusartgallery.com
218-727-6339
315 N. Lake Ave
Apt 312
Duluth, MN 55806
----- Original Message -----
From: "Earl Brunner"
To:
Sent: Saturday, February 15, 2003 1:38 PM
Subject: FW: Boston Wheel
> I just received the "request" (reproduced below) from the "owner" of
> "Boston Wheel". This wheel company first showed up back in August of
> 2001 as a topic of discussion on ClayArt.
> I do not believe that this company provides enough information about the
> "specifications" of this wheel at their website for someone to make an
> informed decision about the wheel. That hasn't changed. In fact when I
> tried to click on the "Technical Specification" link at the bottom of
> the webpage it prevented me from going there, asking for a "password".
> There is no indication of how much clay one can center at a time on this
> thing, nothing to indicate (on the web page
> http://www.thebostonwheel.com ) that
> is even variable speed, nothing on horse power of the "high torque"
> motor.
>
> It might actually have some use as a small portable demo wheel, but how
> would you know? I simply state that there is not enough info on the
> webpage to answer these questions. Do a search in the archives for
> Boston Wheel. Pay particular attention to the "track record" on ebay.
> They are an unknown, if you have $279.00 to throw around go for it.
> >From what I can see, this wheel would not be the best buy for a serious
> potter or pottery student. And it is a bit expensive if one is NOT a
> serious potter or pottery student.
>
> For the record, I don't like people telling me I can't have an opinion
> on something or share my opinion in open discussion..
>
>
> Earl Brunner
> mailto:bruec@anv.net
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Paul M. Doherty [mailto:pmdd@msn.com]
> Sent: Saturday, February 15, 2003 3:40 AM
> To: bruec@ANV.NET
> Subject: Boston Wheel
>
> Dear Earl Brunner,
>
> Reference is made to your "comments" about my "Boston Wheel" with
> specific reference to everything you said.
>
> Please refrain from writing anything about my "products" without my
> expressed permission in writing from myself or an employee of my
> company.
>
> "patentee"
>
> Paul M. Doherty
>
>
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Earl Brunner on sat 15 feb 03
I just received the "request" (reproduced below) from the "owner" of
"Boston Wheel". This wheel company first showed up back in August of
2001 as a topic of discussion on ClayArt.
I do not believe that this company provides enough information about the
"specifications" of this wheel at their website for someone to make an
informed decision about the wheel. That hasn't changed. In fact when I
tried to click on the "Technical Specification" link at the bottom of
the webpage it prevented me from going there, asking for a "password".
There is no indication of how much clay one can center at a time on this
thing, nothing to indicate (on the web page
http://www.thebostonwheel.com ) that
is even variable speed, nothing on horse power of the "high torque"
motor.
It might actually have some use as a small portable demo wheel, but how
would you know? I simply state that there is not enough info on the
webpage to answer these questions. Do a search in the archives for
Boston Wheel. Pay particular attention to the "track record" on ebay.
They are an unknown, if you have $279.00 to throw around go for it.
From what I can see, this wheel would not be the best buy for a serious
potter or pottery student. And it is a bit expensive if one is NOT a
serious potter or pottery student.
For the record, I don't like people telling me I can't have an opinion
on something or share my opinion in open discussion..
Earl Brunner
mailto:bruec@anv.net
-----Original Message-----
From: Paul M. Doherty [mailto:pmdd@msn.com]
Sent: Saturday, February 15, 2003 3:40 AM
To: bruec@ANV.NET
Subject: Boston Wheel
Dear Earl Brunner,
Reference is made to your "comments" about my "Boston Wheel" with
specific reference to everything you said.
Please refrain from writing anything about my "products" without my
expressed permission in writing from myself or an employee of my
company.
"patentee"
Paul M. Doherty
william schran on sun 16 feb 03
Earl wrote: <tried to click on the "Technical Specification" link at the bottom of
the webpage it prevented me from going there, asking for a "password".>>
This was regarding The Boston Wheel web page. I got the same PDF file
download with a request to enter password. I have responded to the
site requesting the password to get the technical information. We'll
see what happens. I noted on another link other wheel models "coming
soon", including a kick wheel.
Bill in Fredericksburg, Va., where it snowed about 7" last night &
this morning and they call for the heavy stuff later today - perhaps
18" to 24"! Well, it's a lot for here.
Snail Scott on sun 16 feb 03
At 11:38 AM 2/15/03 -0800, Earl wrote:
>For the record, I don't like people telling me I can't have an opinion
>on something or share my opinion in open discussion...
Talk away, Earl! They requested (Demanded!) that you
not discuss their product in public? Pffffthhht! I
had no previous desire to talk about wheels of any
sort, but now I've just gotta put my two cents' worth
in!
I agree with your assessment of the website - it's
strikingly devoid of specific information, and I
also noted (as you did) the apparent lack of any
speed control. Maybe for someone it's worth saving
$300 to skip that feature, or maybe not. But, if I
were going to spend $279 (plus shipping) on anything,
I'd want a little more transparency regarding the
technical specs. (That link on the website really
IS password-protected!)
-Snail
Robert Huskey on sun 16 feb 03
With a good brand new variable speed high torqe wheel to be had for $600 ,
we are much better off spending $300 on a used wheel . I'm not sure I would
want to center at a slow 75 rpm or have a wide bowl whip around at a fast
75 rpm .
Bob Huskey , Tallahassee, Florida
----- Original Message -----
From: "Snail Scott"
To:
Sent: Sunday, February 16, 2003 11:45 AM
Subject: Re: FW:
>
> I agree with your assessment of the website - it's
> strikingly devoid of specific information, and I
> also noted (as you did) the apparent lack of any
> speed control. Maybe for someone it's worth saving
> $300 to skip that feature, or maybe not. But, if I
> were going to spend $279 (plus shipping) on anything,
> I'd want a little more transparency regarding the
> technical specs. (That link on the website really
> IS password-protected!)
>
> -Snail
>
>
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