Ingeborg Foco on sun 2 mar 03
Dear Judy,
In the March/April Clay Times you will find an article by Tim Eberhardt on
building web sites and selling on the net. If you can't get a hold of the
copy the address is www.newartpottery.com/web/site.html
Ingeborg
the Potter's Workshop & Gallery
P.O. Box 510
3058 Stringfellow Road
St. James City, Florida 33956
239-283-2775
Judith S. Labovitz on sun 2 mar 03
I know this has been around before, but after spending hours rummaging
thru the archives I have yet to find it.....our guild is
(finally) beginning to explore the possibility of a website.....(I've
been asked to chair the task force)....and I need HELP....
I seem to remember an article in Pottery Making about this, and
again, struck zero in looking thru my own back issues and again on their
website...I'm clearly doing something wrong!
So...if anybody out there could give me some advice....on or
off-list... on how to go about this....I'd be very grateful.
Clayart folks have been very generous with advice to me in the past...and
believe me....it is appreciated!!!!
thanks!
Judy...in cold snowy Michigan (as usual)
C Newlin on sun 2 mar 03
I'd be happy to help you out if you like.
You can take a look at some of my websites at http://www.stinkbalm.com
I've been doing it for about 8 years, and have pretty good knowledge of
HTML and cgi scripts etc.
At 06:54 AM 3/2/03, you wrote:
>I know this has been around before, but after spending hours rummaging
>thru the archives I have yet to find it.....our guild is
>(finally) beginning to explore the possibility of a website.....(I've
>been asked to chair the task force)....and I need HELP....
>I seem to remember an article in Pottery Making about this, and
>again, struck zero in looking thru my own back issues and again on their
>website...I'm clearly doing something wrong!
>
>So...if anybody out there could give me some advice....on or
>off-list... on how to go about this....I'd be very grateful.
>
>Clayart folks have been very generous with advice to me in the past...and
>believe me....it is appreciated!!!!
>
>thanks!
>
>
>Judy...in cold snowy Michigan (as usual)
>
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John Rodgers on sun 2 mar 03
I like MicroSoft Front Page for web authoring software. It's a one stop
shop sort of thing. Does it all for you, including publishing to the
web. It is well integrated to the Windows environment. A good off the
shelf book to go with it that has practice lessons on CD is STEP BY STEP
for Microsoft FrontPage 2000, printed by Microsoft Press. There may be
a later edition out now.
Good luck in your efforts.
John Rodgers
Birmingham, AL
Judith S. Labovitz wrote:
> I know this has been around before, but after spending hours rummaging
> thru the archives I have yet to find it.....our guild is
> (finally) beginning to explore the possibility of a website.....(I've
> been asked to chair the task force)....and I need HELP....
> I seem to remember an article in Pottery Making about this, and
> again, struck zero in looking thru my own back issues and again on their
> website...I'm clearly doing something wrong!
>
> So...if anybody out there could give me some advice....on or
> off-list... on how to go about this....I'd be very grateful.
>
> Clayart folks have been very generous with advice to me in the past...and
> believe me....it is appreciated!!!!
>
> thanks!
>
>
> Judy...in cold snowy Michigan (as usual)
>
> ______________________________________________________________________________
>
> Send postings to clayart@lsv.ceramics.org
>
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>
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Vicki Hardin on sun 2 mar 03
Hi, was thinking that this
http://www.windowatch.com/2002/february/fp8_2_1.html
might give you an idea about what Front page might be able to do for you. It
is a quirky little program, but much simpler than Dreamweaver. One thing you
would definitely want to do is to stay away from using a front page template
so that your site does not look like an "out of the box site". What will
make your site stand out are good graphics. Sites that stand out for me in
this area are those that belong to Ed Gray http://www.edgraystudio.com/ and
Marie e.v.b. Gibbons (Hi Marie....waving...) http://oooladies.com Althouhg I
cautioned to stay away from the Front Page templates, there are
professionally designed templates such at those at Front Page World
http://frontpageworld.com which are very nice.
Best of Luck!
Vicki Hardin
http://VickiHardin.com
http://ClayArtWebGuide.com
Fabienne Cassman on mon 3 mar 03
Judy,
I would recommend that you start by finding sites you like, possibly sites that have the same focus, and annotate what you like about them. Tuck the links somewhere to review them again. Take all these notes and build your own site or have it built. That's how I tell my clients to proceed. It gives me an idea of their vision and also makes them aware of what's available and possible.
If you don't know where to find those sites, start by visiting some search engine such has http://www.yahoo.com/ and plug in some keywords.
Fabienne
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Chris on mon 3 mar 03
judith,
i have just started making websites and so i can give you a little advice.
There are several programs out there that are click and drag oriented so
almost anyone can now make their own page - the only drawback is that you a
slightly limited in that you a making a page from a template but if you add
your own photos and change some of the colors i think that you can make a
nice page that doesn't look like everyone else's
the software that i would recommend is "web easy" by vcom - it costs about
$40.
chris in arkansas
----- Original Message -----
From: "Judith S. Labovitz"
To:
Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2003 6:54 AM
Subject: website development
> I know this has been around before, but after spending hours rummaging
> thru the archives I have yet to find it.....our guild is
> (finally) beginning to explore the possibility of a website.....(I've
> been asked to chair the task force)....and I need HELP....
> I seem to remember an article in Pottery Making about this, and
> again, struck zero in looking thru my own back issues and again on their
> website...I'm clearly doing something wrong!
>
> So...if anybody out there could give me some advice....on or
> off-list... on how to go about this....I'd be very grateful.
>
> Clayart folks have been very generous with advice to me in the past...and
> believe me....it is appreciated!!!!
>
> thanks!
>
>
> Judy...in cold snowy Michigan (as usual)
>
>
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__
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melpots@pclink.com.
Bob Nicholson on mon 3 mar 03
>I know this has been around before, but after spending hours rummaging
>thru the archives I have yet to find it.....our guild is
>(finally) beginning to explore the possibility of a website.....(I've
>been asked to chair the task force)....and I need HELP....
>I seem to remember an article in Pottery Making about this, and
>again, struck zero in looking thru my own back issues and again on their
>website...I'm clearly doing something wrong!
See if you can find back issues of Potter's Pages, the newsletter of
the Potters Council.
Vol 1 Issue 2 - "Creating an Effective Website"
Vol 2 Issue 3 - "Pottery Groups and the Internet"
- Bob Nicholson
Vince Pitelka on mon 3 mar 03
I think that most people accessing a website would not recognize a FrontPage
"out-of-the-box" theme (template) website. Perhaps I say that slightly
defensively, because I just learned FrontPage last fall, and have used it to
build websites for myself and two of my four colleagues at the Craft Center.
I don't even try to compare my sites to some of the beautiful ones I see
online, but in terms of accessibility and information I am comfortable with
what I accomplished so far. If you want to see these three websites built
using FrontPage "themes" (templates), check them out at
http://iweb.tntech.edu/wpitelka/index.htm,
http://iweb.tntech.edu/cbrock/index.htm, and
http://iweb.tntech.edu/rcoogan/index.htm
Best wishes -
- Vince
Vince Pitelka
Appalachian Center for Craft
Tennessee Technological University
1560 Craft Center Drive, Smithville TN 37166
Home - vpitelka@dtccom.net
615/597-5376
Office - wpitelka@tntech.edu
615/597-6801 x111, FAX 615/597-6803
http://iweb.tntech.edu/wpitelka/
Elizabeth Herod on tue 4 mar 03
Vince said:
>>I think that most people accessing a website would not recognize a FrontP=
age
"out-of-the-box" theme (template) website. Perhaps I say that slightly
defensively, because I just learned FrontPage last fall, and have used it t=
o
build websites for myself and two of my four colleagues at the Craft Center=
.
I don't even try to compare my sites to some of the beautiful ones I see
online, but in terms of accessibility and information I am comfortable with
what I accomplished so far. <<
One is only going to recognize an application built web page if they view
the source code. Take Vince=B9s advice and go for it.
I have used Claris Home Page for years, and have recently been experimentin=
g
with Adobe Go Live.
The thing to do is just play with one of those applications. Choose your
background, put it your headline text, and learn what you can do with it.
Once you see what the simple things do, you=B9ll become more confident and
bolder, and you=B9ll go from there. It=B9s like throwing a pot.
Once you get the hang of it, view the source code, and you=B9ll be able to
figure out how it works. View other source codes, and then you can really
refine your work....if you want to spend that much time on it. It=B9s like
pottery... You can go on forever, but you really don=B9t need to. :)
I was a computer geek long before I became a potter-in-training.
Beth
Bob Santerre on tue 4 mar 03
Hi Vince,
I'm just going through the Step-by-Step Frontpage tutorial in
preparation for putting up my own web site as well. In viewing your web
sites (which I liked very much - and while I could recognize the
'Frontpage' style it was not off-putting at all and I found the sites
very professional looking and quite logical in navigation - in contrast
to some of the more 'esoteric' sites I've seen that require some fancier
navigation or catching flashing thumbnails to find what you want to
see). I do have one question and a comment:
1. You've used 2 types of internal links, a 'back' button and an 'up'
link. I don't recall reading about an 'up' link feature and am
wondering how it differs from the 'back' button. In Frontpage where did
you find this 'up' link feature?
2. Your own site and the Curtis site work perfectly for me (Netscape
6.2 browser, sloooow telephone modem), but the Coogan site seems to
hang-up on some of the image retrieves. The image (some, not all) comes
up for about 1/3 of it, then it hangs up and finally the retrieve just
quits (with no error message, phone modem connection has not been lost).
Don't know if the problem is on your end or mine - just thought you'd
like to know.
Thanks, your success is an inspiration for me to move forward.
Best regards, Bob
///////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
Vince Pitelka wrote:
>I think that most people accessing a website would not recognize a FrontPage
>"out-of-the-box" theme (template) website. Perhaps I say that slightly
>defensively, because I just learned FrontPage last fall, and have used it to
>build websites for myself and two of my four colleagues at the Craft Center.
>I don't even try to compare my sites to some of the beautiful ones I see
>online, but in terms of accessibility and information I am comfortable with
>what I accomplished so far. If you want to see these three websites built
>using FrontPage "themes" (templates), check them out at
>http://iweb.tntech.edu/wpitelka/index.htm,
>http://iweb.tntech.edu/cbrock/index.htm, and
>http://iweb.tntech.edu/rcoogan/index.htm
>Best wishes -
>- Vince
>
>Vince Pitelka
>Appalachian Center for Craft
>Tennessee Technological University
>1560 Craft Center Drive, Smithville TN 37166
>Home - vpitelka@dtccom.net
>615/597-5376
>Office - wpitelka@tntech.edu
>615/597-6801 x111, FAX 615/597-6803
>http://iweb.tntech.edu/wpitelka/
>
>______________________________________________________________________________
>Send postings to clayart@lsv.ceramics.org
>
>You may look at the archives for the list or change your subscription
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>
>Moderator of the list is Mel Jacobson who may be reached at melpots@pclink.com.
>
>
Bob Santerre on tue 4 mar 03
Sorry, my previous response was meant to be private. Please pardon my
mistake and hit the 'delete' button.
Bob
///////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
Vince Pitelka wrote:
>I think that most people accessing a website would not recognize a FrontPage
>"out-of-the-box" theme (template) website. Perhaps I say that slightly
>defensively, because I just learned FrontPage last fall, and have used it to
>build websites for myself and two of my four colleagues at the Craft Center.
>I don't even try to compare my sites to some of the beautiful ones I see
>online, but in terms of accessibility and information I am comfortable with
>what I accomplished so far. If you want to see these three websites built
>using FrontPage "themes" (templates), check them out at
>http://iweb.tntech.edu/wpitelka/index.htm,
>http://iweb.tntech.edu/cbrock/index.htm, and
>http://iweb.tntech.edu/rcoogan/index.htm
>Best wishes -
>- Vince
>
>Vince Pitelka
>Appalachian Center for Craft
>Tennessee Technological University
>1560 Craft Center Drive, Smithville TN 37166
>Home - vpitelka@dtccom.net
>615/597-5376
>Office - wpitelka@tntech.edu
>615/597-6801 x111, FAX 615/597-6803
>http://iweb.tntech.edu/wpitelka/
>
>______________________________________________________________________________
>Send postings to clayart@lsv.ceramics.org
>
>You may look at the archives for the list or change your subscription
>settings from http://www.ceramics.org/clayart/
>
>Moderator of the list is Mel Jacobson who may be reached at melpots@pclink.com.
>
>
Brandon Phillips on tue 4 mar 03
I also have used FrontPage to create my website. I opted to completely
eliminate the use of the templates on mine. This made it a bit more
difficult, but I was also able to customize it more. I am very
computer-illiterate so it took a lot of experimenting, and I would
definitely recommend getting the book to help you out.
Brandon Phillips
www.bp-pottery.com
>
>Vince Pitelka wrote:
>
>>I think that most people accessing a website would not recognize a
>>FrontPage
>>"out-of-the-box" theme (template) website. Perhaps I say that slightly
>>defensively, because I just learned FrontPage last fall, and have used it
>>to
>>build websites for myself and two of my four colleagues at the Craft
>>Center.
>>I don't even try to compare my sites to some of the beautiful ones I see
>>online, but in terms of accessibility and information I am comfortable
>>with
>>what I accomplished so far. If you want to see these three websites built
>>using FrontPage "themes" (templates), check them out at
>>http://iweb.tntech.edu/wpitelka/index.htm,
>>http://iweb.tntech.edu/cbrock/index.htm, and
>>http://iweb.tntech.edu/rcoogan/index.htm
>>Best wishes -
>>- Vince
>>
>>Vince Pitelka
>>Appalachian Center for Craft
>>Tennessee Technological University
>>1560 Craft Center Drive, Smithville TN 37166
>>Home - vpitelka@dtccom.net
>>615/597-5376
>>Office - wpitelka@tntech.edu
>>615/597-6801 x111, FAX 615/597-6803
>>http://iweb.tntech.edu/wpitelka/
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