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kiln wash mistake - talc

updated fri 14 mar 03

 

iandol on sun 9 mar 03


Dear Ron Roy,

It would be an interesting task to test out the hypothesis that Talc =
decomposes when heated beyond 900=B0C to become Magnesia and Silica. =
Should give a strong alkali response which tested with indicator after =
being dissolved in water.

My understanding, from the Gemstone knowledge base, is that Talc on =
heating to that temperate changes to a material called Enstatite which =
is both hard and heat resistant. I have several Talc carvings which are =
difficult to scratch with steel. Sepiolite is a Talc carving material =
used, because of its heat resistance, to make the bowls of smokers =
pipes. Talc has also been turned to make the insulator shafts for =
sparking plugs. becomes very hard after firing and has heat resistant =
properties.

By the way, are you saying that the clay will craze if talc is not =
included in the body composition or do you mean it should be put in the =
glazes <produce Cristobalite in low fire bodies to help avoid crazing - and also =
to reduce rehydration in low fired bodies.>> I am a bit confused by what =
you are saying here.

Best regards,
Ivor Lewis

Ron Roy on tue 11 mar 03


Hi Ivor,

I have looked this up in 3 texts - I will quote below.

The enstatite is formed on cooling - can even show up in glazes - has a
high CTE and is why it is used in lowfire bodies to combat crazing - and
cuts water absorption of underfired bodies.

What I am saying about crazing in lowfire bodies is - it is difficult to
prevent crazing on them with certain glazes - the talc addition helps by
raising the CTE of the body (50 to 60% Talc is normal) and - because the
rehydration issue is also addressed - you are also dealing with the crazing
due to rehydration.

Cardew - bodies with Talc - Below 1260C the mineral crystallizing will
probably will probably not be corderite but various forms of enstatite
(MgO,SiO2), a mineral which has a high thermal expansion.

Obstler - Out of the Earth into the Fire under Talc - clay bodies - function=
of.
earthenware bodies - enstatite high thermal expansion - reduces crazing and
reduces the post firing moisture expansion ...... and reduces delayed
crazing due to.

Hamer - under enstatite 1180 1180C Magnesium oxide and silica are involved
in a ceramic fusion. During cooling some of the Magnesium oxide and
devitrify to give 3(MgO.SiO2) =3D enstatite - .........

Hope this helps - RR


>My understanding, from the Gemstone knowledge base, is that Talc on
>heating to that temperate changes to a material called Enstatite which is
>both hard and heat resistant. I have several Talc carvings which are
>difficult to scratch with steel. Sepiolite is a Talc carving material
>used, because of its heat resistance, to make the bowls of smokers pipes.
>Talc has also been turned to make the insulator shafts for sparking plugs.
>becomes very hard after firing and has heat resistant properties.
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>By the way, are you saying that the clay will craze if talc is not
>included in the body composition or do you mean it should be put in the
>glazes <>produce Cristobalite in low fire bodies to help avoid crazing - and also
>to reduce rehydration in low fired bodies.>> I am a bit confused by what
>you are saying here.
>
>Best regards,
>Ivor Lewis
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Dear Ron Roy,


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It would be an interesting task to test out the hypothesis that Talc
>decomposes when heated beyond 900=B0C to become Magnesia and Silica. Should
>give a
>strong alkali response which tested with indicator after being
>dissolved in
>water.


>

My understanding, from the Gemstone knowledge base, is that Talc on heat=
ing
>to that temperate changes to a material called Enstatite which is both
>hard and
>heat resistant. I have several Talc carvings which are difficult to
>scratch with
>steel. Sepiolite is a Talc carving material used, because of its heat
>resistance, to make the bowls of smokers pipes. Talc has also been turned t=
o
>make the insulator shafts for sparking plugs. becomes very hard after
>firing and has heat resistant properties.


>

By the way, are you saying that the clay will craze if talc is not inclu=
ded
>in the body composition or do you mean it should be put in the glazes 
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>acts in
>a catalytic way to produce Cristobalite in low fire bodies to help avoid
>crazing
>- and also to reduce rehydration in low fired bodies.>> I am a bit
>confused by what you are saying here.


>

Best regards,
Ivor Lewis

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Ron Roy
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Phone: 613-475-9544
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iandol on wed 12 mar 03


Dear Ron Roy,=20

Thanks for those notes. I don't thing Obstler is saying anything new. I =
was questioning your claim of Catalytic reaction of the talc when you =
wrote <produce Cristobalite in low fire bodies to help avoid crazing - and also =
to reduce rehydration in low fired bodies.>>

I am highly suspicious of the entry in Hamer's Dictionary. I wonder at =
the truth of his claim that there is total decomposition and ponder on =
the type of reaction which would cause two highly refractory oxides to =
recombine without a high degree of solvation and very slow cooling.

Hope you have a good trip south.

Best regards,

Ivor Lewis