Jean Mitton on wed 26 mar 03
-----Original Message-----
From: Jean Mitton
To: CLAYART@CERAMICS.ORG
Date: Wednesday, March 26, 2003 8:53 PM
Subject: Paper Clay..Dangerous?
In our local ceramic magazine in an article on Paper Clay, the =
following staement was made
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" Do not store Paper Clay for a long period, as it develops a =
mould that is very dangerous"
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I have seen posts that advice the use of household bleach to combat =
the odour, but I may have
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missed posts on the dangers. My question is..... Does anyone know how =
danferous this is? ....
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And is bleach the cure, or can you not store Paper Clay?
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RON MITTON
SOUTH AFRICA
Susan Setley on wed 26 mar 03
In a message dated 3/26/03 3:40:43 PM, mittyj@IAFRICA.COM writes:
<< I have seen posts that advice the use of household bleach to combat the
odour, but I may have
missed posts on the dangers. My question is..... Does anyone know how
danferous this is? ....
And is bleach the cure, or can you not store Paper Clay?
RON MITTON
SOUTH AFRICA >>
I use a paperclay slip for joining, and when I mixed it with tea, as someone
suggested, instead of vinegar, as I typically do, it grew a really vile
looking mold. i threw it out and now I'm glad I did.
LindaBlossom on wed 26 mar 03
I used to put bleach in my clay when I made it. Then once I forgot.
Repeatedly I forgot. Never did I smell the odor that I had heard so much
about. I always use office paper to make my clay so maybe that has
someting to do with it. When I did use bleach I used the safe kind which I
think is hydrogen peroxide so that is always an option. I have never been
sick from using my clay. I am not worried.
Linda Blossom
Ithaca, NY
In our local ceramic magazine in an article on Paper Clay, the following
staement was made
" Do not store Paper Clay for a long period, as it develops a mould
that is very dangerous"
I have seen posts that advice the use of household bleach to combat the
odour, but I may have
missed posts on the dangers. My question is..... Does anyone know how
danferous this is? ....
And is bleach the cure, or can you not store Paper Clay?
RON MITTON
SOUTH AFRICA
Marcia Selsor on wed 26 mar 03
Dear jean,
I have used paperclay since 1993. I have used linter paper for the paper
pulp, office paper ala Linda Blossom, newspaper, and most recently
cellulose from the hardware store.
I have used it in raku, terra cotta and stoneware.
It has on occasion gotten moldy...especially in really old raku clay
with newspaper. I have added some bleach to mixes that had newspaper
pulp. I believe I read somewhere that it is the ink that goes moldy.
I haven't had any problem with the celluose, or linter sources of pulp.
Also, if you mix the paper clay into slurry and dry it for storage then
it doesn't mold.
Hope this helps.
marcia
Jean Mitton wrote:
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jean Mitton
> To: CLAYART@CERAMICS.ORG
> Date: Wednesday, March 26, 2003 8:53 PM
> Subject: Paper Clay..Dangerous?
>
>
> In our local ceramic magazine in an article on Paper Clay, the following staement was made
>
> " Do not store Paper Clay for a long period, as it develops a mould that is very dangerous"
>
> I have seen posts that advice the use of household bleach to combat the odour, but I may have
>
> missed posts on the dangers. My question is..... Does anyone know how danferous this is? ....
>
> And is bleach the cure, or can you not store Paper Clay?
>
> RON MITTON
> SOUTH AFRICA
>
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Ababi on thu 27 mar 03
Hello Jean
I will not try to be smart. When I worked with animals I knew, I should consult from
time to time with a laboratory.
You better pay some Rands, and stay healthy, we have enough other ways to be sick!
About paperclay. I make my own If you want I shall E mail you my booklet or you can
see most of it in my site.
I keep the fresh paperclay in the fridge and for long periods I dry it. When you get
answers from people try to find out where they live.
My Canadian fellows might have a better paperclay-keeping weather.
Your fungus is not necessarily the same as mine. One thing is sure when the
claybody stinks and blacken from the inside it is no longer paperclay but garbage
clay!
Ababi Sharon
Glaze addict
Kibbutz Shoval Israel
About paperclay :
http://members4.clubphoto.com/ababi306910/803792/
Similar in Hebrew
http://members4.clubphoto.com/ababi306910/839502/
---------- Original Message ----------
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Jean Mitton
>To: CLAYART@CERAMICS.ORG
>Date: Wednesday, March 26, 2003 8:53 PM
>Subject: Paper Clay..Dangerous?
> In our local ceramic magazine in an article on Paper Clay, the following staement
was made
>
> " Do not store Paper Clay for a long period, as it develops a mould that is very
dangerous"
>
> I have seen posts that advice the use of household bleach to combat the odour,
but I may have
>
>missed posts on the dangers. My question is..... Does anyone know how danferous
this is? ....
>
>And is bleach the cure, or can you not store Paper Clay?
>
>RON MITTON
>SOUTH AFRICA
m markey on thu 27 mar 03
Hi Jean! (Hmm, something like "hygene")--
If the moulds you see in your paperclay are questionable, I suggest handling
the paperclay with plastic gloves, or just dumping the pclay.
One of my instructors, when I last took a clay class, said that the best
clays are those with moulds. The moulds help make the clay moreso plastic,
according to him. So, I conclude that moulds may actually be helpful, at
least for non-paper clays.
Best wishes!
Mohabee NakedClay@hotmail.com
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Longtin, Jeff on fri 28 mar 03
This post caught my attention so I thought I would share this. I slip cast
my pots. I have containers of stoneware, porcelain, and eartenware slip in
the studio. They all have really gross mold spots on the inside of the
containers and they all "smell funny". (The mold in porcelain slip is
particularely disgusting). While bacteria in throwing clay is necessary I
don't think it has as great a role in casting slip. I've not developed any
new diseases or allergies as a result of using these clays.
As throwing water develops a not particularly appealing smell after a few
days, as well, I just presume all clays experience bacteria growth (afterall
that is how they're created I do beleive) and that it is just the nature of
the beast, as it were.
Take care
Jeff Longtin
in snowy minneapolis
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From: m markey [mailto:nakedclay@HOTMAIL.COM]
Sent: Friday, March 28, 2003 1:34 AM
To: CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG
Subject: Re: Fw: Paper Clay..Dangerous?
Hi Jean! (Hmm, something like "hygene")--
If the moulds you see in your paperclay are questionable, I suggest handling
the paperclay with plastic gloves, or just dumping the pclay.
One of my instructors, when I last took a clay class, said that the best
clays are those with moulds. The moulds help make the clay moreso plastic,
according to him. So, I conclude that moulds may actually be helpful, at
least for non-paper clays.
Best wishes!
Mohabee NakedClay@hotmail.com
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