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ink jet ceramic decals- some success

updated sat 29 mar 03

 

Sid Ham on thu 27 mar 03


Since following the thread some time ago about lackk of success using ink
jets for ceramic decals I've been working on the problem. I was unsable
to duplicate the success withHP inks on my HP printer. I have ahd some
recent sucess using a saturated cobalt sulfate in water solution injected
into a near empty black cartridge. It's a little tricky getting the right
amount of "ink" on the decal but the results are really pretty good with
incredible detail available (one color of course). Be interested in
hearing from anyone else chasing this idea.

Bob Santerre on thu 27 mar 03


Hmmmm, if this is working, why couldn't you just fill another cartridge
with a chrome solution and then print over the first decal image adding
new parts to the image with a second color, and/or then a mixture to get
a 3rd color?

Bob

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Sid Ham wrote:

>Since following the thread some time ago about lackk of success using ink
>jets for ceramic decals I've been working on the problem. I was unsable
>to duplicate the success withHP inks on my HP printer. I have ahd some
>recent sucess using a saturated cobalt sulfate in water solution injected
>into a near empty black cartridge. It's a little tricky getting the right
>amount of "ink" on the decal but the results are really pretty good with
>incredible detail available (one color of course). Be interested in
>hearing from anyone else chasing this idea.
>
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Sid Ham on thu 27 mar 03


Bob

Cobalt sulfate works well and I assume cobalt nitrate would work even
better. I haven't found a water soluble chrome salt that is neutralized for
use in the cartridge. If you take chrome oxide and put it into solution in
hydrocloric acid or nitric acid to produce a more water soluble form the
acidity destroys the jets. Neutralizing the solution then gives you a
problem with particle size too large for the jets. Thanks for the feedback.

Sid Ham


----- Original Message -----
From: "Bob Santerre"
To:
Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2003 2:25 PM
Subject: Re: ink jet ceramic decals- some success


> Hmmmm, if this is working, why couldn't you just fill another cartridge
> with a chrome solution and then print over the first decal image adding
> new parts to the image with a second color, and/or then a mixture to get
> a 3rd color?
>
> Bob
>
>
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>
> Sid Ham wrote:
>
> >Since following the thread some time ago about lackk of success using ink
> >jets for ceramic decals I've been working on the problem. I was unsable
> >to duplicate the success withHP inks on my HP printer. I have ahd some
> >recent sucess using a saturated cobalt sulfate in water solution injected
> >into a near empty black cartridge. It's a little tricky getting the
right
> >amount of "ink" on the decal but the results are really pretty good with
> >incredible detail available (one color of course). Be interested in
> >hearing from anyone else chasing this idea.
> >
>
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___
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melpots@pclink.com.
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Martin Howard on fri 28 mar 03


It is great to have some of you really experimenting with this idea.
The chemistry input is just what I needed to understand what is required.
Now for some line tests of how much of each substance to put into the
cartridges.
Perhaps someone, Epson? will eventually make a computer printer for
potters.
Then we could all make out own decals with no problems at all!
Too easy perhaps.

Martin Howard
Webbs Cottage Pottery
Woolpits Road, Great Saling
BRAINTREE, Essex CM7 5DZ
01371 850 423
martin@webbscottage.co.uk
http://www.webbscottage.co.uk
Updated 11th February 2003

Valerie Hawkins on fri 28 mar 03


What are the decals being printed on?

Valerie
Charlotte

Sid Ham on fri 28 mar 03


Valeie Charlotte

I've had my best success on Bel, Inc. clear inkjet paper, a water slide
decal paper. You do have to seal the decal before soaking in water or you
will lose your image.

Sid Ham


----- Original Message -----
From: "Valerie Hawkins"
To:
Sent: Friday, March 28, 2003 5:06 AM
Subject: Re: ink jet ceramic decals- some success


> What are the decals being printed on?
>
> Valerie
> Charlotte
>
>
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