Martin A. Arkowitz on sun 13 apr 03
i have tried making up mark burleson's "ocean" glaze and it came out pea
green-yuck. i have a very small amount of the old greyish green copper carb and
i am going to try using this old stuff. but does anyone know of a supplier of
the old greyish green copper carb. Or what is the relationship of the new kelly
green copper carb to the old stuff. do i use it in a one to one subsitution or
whatever. i need some guidlines and info to help me move forward.
tia,
eleanor arkowitz
Lorraine Pierce on sun 13 apr 03
Hi Martin and Lisa...unless it has recently come in, Highwater has only the
yellow-green-when -fired copper, not the old grey green. I was told Bailey
in New York state still has it. I'll be watching the posts for the update.
Lori in New Port Richey Fl. packing up the studio for my move to
Jacksonville...packing the household things was EASY compared to this. I
know I have toted some of these same materials in several moves in my life.
Perhaps it is time to use the hoarded Albany slip and old GB! Then there is
the white lead and lead chromate! I remind myself of the old lady with the
string box labeled, String...too short to use...SAVE.
----- Original Message -----
From: "L. P. Skeen"
To:
Sent: Sunday, April 13, 2003 12:22 PM
Subject: Re: new copper carbonate
The new copper carb is a pain in the ASS. It settles out and is grainy.
:( Why did they change the way they make it??????????? I heard that
Highwater had the old (good) kind, but not sure.
L
----- Original Message -----
From: Martin A. Arkowitz
i have tried making up mark burleson's "ocean" glaze and it came out pea
green-yuck. i have a very small amount of the old greyish green copper carb
and i am going to try using this old stuff. but does anyone know of a
supplier of the old greyish green copper carb. Or what is the relationship
of the new kelly green copper carb to the old stuff. do i use it in a one to
one subsitution or whatever.
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L. P. Skeen on sun 13 apr 03
The new copper carb is a pain in the ASS. It settles out and is grainy. =
:( Why did they change the way they make it??????????? I heard that =
Highwater had the old (good) kind, but not sure.
L
----- Original Message -----=20
From: Martin A. Arkowitz=20
i have tried making up mark burleson's "ocean" glaze and it came out =
pea green-yuck. i have a very small amount of the old greyish green =
copper carb and i am going to try using this old stuff. but does anyone =
know of a supplier of the old greyish green copper carb. Or what is the =
relationship of the new kelly green copper carb to the old stuff. do i =
use it in a one to one subsitution or whatever.=20
Jocelyn McAuley on sun 13 apr 03
Eleanor,
One other thing worth noting is that there were numerous errors in the
first printing of Mark Burleson's glaze book. Check to see what edition
you are working from- if it is the first, contact the publisher through
their website and get the procedure to receive a rectified book copy. I
was just wondering whether this recipe may have errors in it?
Just a thought
Good luck
Jocelyn
> i have tried making up mark burleson's "ocean" glaze and it came out pea
> green-yuck. i have a very small amount of the old greyish green copper carb and
> i am going to try using this old stuff. but does anyone know of a supplier of
> the old greyish green copper carb. Or what is the relationship of the new kelly
> green copper carb to the old stuff. do i use it in a one to one subsitution or
> whatever. i need some guidlines and info to help me move forward.
>
> tia,
>
> eleanor arkowitz
>
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Brenda Funk on mon 14 apr 03
Martin,
I also tried Mark Burleson's Ocean Green and it came out yukky. But worse, it slid off the vertical surfaces and made a puddle on the kiln shelves, and crawled badly on horizontal surfaces. Did you have any similar problems?
> Brenda Funk
> From: Lorraine Pierce
> Date: 2003/04/13 Sun PM 08:51:13 EDT
> To: CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG
> Subject: Re: new copper carbonate
>
> Hi Martin and Lisa...unless it has recently come in, Highwater has only the
> yellow-green-when -fired copper, not the old grey green. I was told Bailey
> in New York state still has it. I'll be watching the posts for the update.
> Lori in New Port Richey Fl. packing up the studio for my move to
> Jacksonville...packing the household things was EASY compared to this. I
> know I have toted some of these same materials in several moves in my life.
> Perhaps it is time to use the hoarded Albany slip and old GB! Then there is
> the white lead and lead chromate! I remind myself of the old lady with the
> string box labeled, String...too short to use...SAVE.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "L. P. Skeen"
> To:
> Sent: Sunday, April 13, 2003 12:22 PM
> Subject: Re: new copper carbonate
>
>
> The new copper carb is a pain in the ASS. It settles out and is grainy.
> :( Why did they change the way they make it??????????? I heard that
> Highwater had the old (good) kind, but not sure.
>
> L
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Martin A. Arkowitz
>
>
> i have tried making up mark burleson's "ocean" glaze and it came out pea
> green-yuck. i have a very small amount of the old greyish green copper carb
> and i am going to try using this old stuff. but does anyone know of a
> supplier of the old greyish green copper carb. Or what is the relationship
> of the new kelly green copper carb to the old stuff. do i use it in a one to
> one subsitution or whatever.
>
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iandol on mon 14 apr 03
Dear L. P. Skeen,
Reading your post caused one of those creative flashes artistic people =
have been talking about.
I think people can make their own Copper Carbonate by precipitating with =
Sodium Carbonate from a solution of Copper Sulphate. This is a complex =
reaction and the result is not pure Copper Carbonate. It will include =
insoluble Basic Copper Sulphate. But you get an insoluble substance =
which can be dried, powdered and used as a glaze colorant.
The experimentalists in the group might like to try this out.
Best regards,
Ivor Lewis.
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