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making a pugmill

updated fri 17 mar 06

 

Vince Pitelka on sun 20 apr 03


Annapoorna wrote:
"HelloWe are setting up a studio and we were wondering if we can make a
pugmill (as here in India we have the opportunity of getting it done to our
specifications.There are no ready made pugmills available.) Is it possible
to download any detail drawing and instructions on how a pugmill works so
that I can show it to the person who is going to make it for us.We have
learned a lot about the art and science of ceramics from all of you."

Annapoorna (what a beautiful name) -
'The Potter's Alternative" by Harry Davis has been re-released by Axner, and
it includes drawings and instructions for building a deairing pugmill. I
couldn't find it on their website, but a Google search yielded a number of
vendors.
Best wishes -
- Vince

Vince Pitelka
Appalachian Center for Craft
Tennessee Technological University
1560 Craft Center Drive, Smithville TN 37166
Home - vpitelka@dtccom.net
615/597-5376
Office - wpitelka@tntech.edu
615/597-6801 x111, FAX 615/597-6803
http://iweb.tntech.edu/wpitelka/

Rick Hamelin on mon 21 apr 03


http://www.vijayaprakash.com/products.html
This is a source to purchase a pugmill in India. Good luck
> Annapoorna wrote:
> "HelloWe are setting up a studio and we were wondering if we can make a
> pugmill (as here in India we have the opportunity of getting it done to our
> specifications.There are no ready made pugmills available.) Is it possible
> to download any detail drawing and instructions on how a pugmill works so
> that I can show it to the person who is going to make it for us.We have
> learned a lot about the art and science of ceramics from all of you."
>
> Annapoorna (what a beautiful name) -
> 'The Potter's Alternative" by Harry Davis has been re-released by Axner, and
> it includes drawings and instructions for building a deairing pugmill. I
> couldn't find it on their website, but a Google search yielded a number of
> vendors.
> Best wishes -
> - Vince
>
> Vince Pitelka
> Appalachian Center for Craft
> Tennessee Technological University
> 1560 Craft Center Drive, Smithville TN 37166
> Home - vpitelka@dtccom.net
> 615/597-5376
> Office - wpitelka@tntech.edu
> 615/597-6801 x111, FAX 615/597-6803

> http://iweb.tntech.edu/wpitelka/
>
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leta troppmann on thu 16 mar 06


I once had a friend who said her husband was making her a pugmill out of a meat grinder...Has any of you ever made a pugmill? Would you like to share your ideas or instructions? Would that even work?
Leta Medina
Reno,Nv

mtigges@NOSPAM.SHAW.CA on thu 16 mar 06


On Thu, Mar 16, 2006 at 08:05:33AM -0800, leta troppmann wrote:
> I once had a friend who said her husband was making her a pugmill
> out of a meat grinder...Has any of you ever made a pugmill? Would
> you like to share your ideas or instructions? Would that even work?

Don't put any ideas in my head. Just kidding.

You might want to have a look here:

http://www.luepottery.hwy.com.au/clayart.htm

Included are plans for a de-airing pug mill.

Mark.

Michael Wendt on thu 16 mar 06


Leta,
I have built several types of clay mixers.
If you have the mechanical skills and the
tools, they are simple to build and far
cheaper than anything you can buy.
See my equipment at:
http://www.wendtpottery.com/equip.htm

See some of the tools you will need at:
http://www.wendtpottery.com/fab.htm

That said, if you can't weld and don't
have a metal lathe and a milling machine,
drill press, box and pan brake, ring roller,
plasma torch and endless arrays of clamps,
jigs and fixture, you will need to hire these
things done and they will cost you more than
buying an existing machine.
The best all in one I have seen is the Peter
Pugger although most people report that they
are time consuming to take apart, clean and
reassemble. I now offer an outline on how to
overcome this problem. Contact me at
1-800-554-3724 for details
Regards,
Michael Wendt
Wendt Pottery
2729 Clearwater Ave
Lewiston, Idaho 83501
USA
wendtpot@lewiston.com
www.wendtpottery.com
Leta wrote:
I once had a friend who said her husband was making her
a pugmill out of a meat grinder...Has any of you ever
made a pugmill? Would you like to share your ideas or
instructions? Would that even work?
Leta Medina
Reno,Nv

Mr WILLIAM TUCKER on thu 16 mar 06


Sorry that I can't help you Leta but on the same subject, I've a pugmill
question of my own. I need two primary augers for an old shimpo (late 70's
model). Cannot buy replacements from shimpo and I thought I might find a
foundry that could cast new ones for me. Anyone have any suggestions of a
foundry to do such a small custom job? I've done an internet search and have
several in mind but have not yet.
contacted them.

Or does anyone out there have parts to sell or other suggestions on
repairing this machine?

Thanks in advance,
Rudy


----- Original Message -----
From: "leta troppmann"
To:
Sent: Thursday, March 16, 2006 11:05 AM
Subject: making a pugmill


>I once had a friend who said her husband was making her a pugmill out of a
>meat grinder...Has any of you ever made a pugmill? Would you like to share
>your ideas or instructions? Would that even work?
> Leta Medina
> Reno,Nv
>
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pdp1@EARTHLINK.NET on thu 16 mar 06


Hi Rudy,


Generally speaking, the troubles variously and the
costs to you for making them, will not recommend a
Foundry as a recourse, unless you really have some
really good buddies who are Pattern Makers ( or
who in this case can modify the existing Auger to
serve as a pattern) and also, buddies in the
Foundry it's self, so they do not screw it up and
make errors then hand them to you with a great,
big, nasty, fat bill to prove how special they
are, at your expense.

However, what is wrong with the one(s) you have?

Likely, they can be ministered to and made good as
new...and this, for a tenth or twentieth or so of
trying to get them made from scratch and machined
and so on.

Can you describe what is going on with the Primary
Augers you have?


Phil
Las Vegas

----- Original Message -----
From: "Mr WILLIAM TUCKER"


> Sorry that I can't help you Leta but on the same
subject, I've a pugmill
> question of my own. I need two primary augers
for an old shimpo (late 70's
> model). Cannot buy replacements from shimpo and
I thought I might find a
> foundry that could cast new ones for me. Anyone
have any suggestions of a
> foundry to do such a small custom job? I've done
an internet search and have
> several in mind but have not yet.
> contacted them.
>
> Or does anyone out there have parts to sell or
other suggestions on
> repairing this machine?
>
> Thanks in advance,
> Rudy

Vince Pitelka on thu 16 mar 06


Leta wrote:
"I once had a friend who said her husband was making her a pugmill out of a
meat grinder...Has any of you ever made a pugmill? Would you like to share
your ideas or instructions? Would that even work?"

Leta -
A meat grinder is an entirely different design, and it works by shearing the
meat. That doesn't work with a pugmill. They work by blending and moving
the clay as the individual blades press the clay towards the inside surface
of the barrell. And even if it would work, a very large meat grinder would
make only a very small pugmill, and a normal kitchen-size meat grinder
wouldn't even be worth bothering with.

25 years ago I built a deairing pugmill according to Harry Davis's design,
and it works very well. But it is an incredibly complicated project,
requiring very advanced welding and fabricating skills. The finished mill
is a true production machine, and will process a ton of clay per hour, but
it is way overkill for most studio potters. When you combine the prices of
all the raw materials, motor, gearbox, vacuum pump, and your labor, you
would be far better off buying one of the less-expensive commercially-made
deairing pugmills on the market today.

If you decide you want to build this pugmill, go to amazon.com and order a
copy of Harry Davis's book, "The Potter's Alternative." It includes plans
and narrative about building this machine.
- Vince

Vince Pitelka
Appalachian Center for Craft, Tennessee Technological University
Smithville TN 37166, 615/597-6801 x111
vpitelka@dtccom.net, wpitelka@tntech.edu
http://iweb.tntech.edu/wpitelka/
http://www.tntech.edu/craftcenter/

leta troppmann on thu 16 mar 06


Vince and all you others,

Thanks for the information and thoughts once again. It has been great to be a part of the Awesome site!

Leta Medina
Reno,Nv

Vince Pitelka wrote:
Leta wrote:
"I once had a friend who said her husband was making her a pugmill out of a
meat grinder...Has any of you ever made a pugmill? Would you like to share
your ideas or instructions? Would that even work?"

Leta -
A meat grinder is an entirely different design, and it works by shearing the
meat. That doesn't work with a pugmill. They work by blending and moving
the clay as the individual blades press the clay towards the inside surface
of the barrell. And even if it would work, a very large meat grinder would
make only a very small pugmill, and a normal kitchen-size meat grinder
wouldn't even be worth bothering with.

25 years ago I built a deairing pugmill according to Harry Davis's design,
and it works very well. But it is an incredibly complicated project,
requiring very advanced welding and fabricating skills. The finished mill
is a true production machine, and will process a ton of clay per hour, but
it is way overkill for most studio potters. When you combine the prices of
all the raw materials, motor, gearbox, vacuum pump, and your labor, you
would be far better off buying one of the less-expensive commercially-made
deairing pugmills on the market today.

If you decide you want to build this pugmill, go to amazon.com and order a
copy of Harry Davis's book, "The Potter's Alternative." It includes plans
and narrative about building this machine.
- Vince

Vince Pitelka
Appalachian Center for Craft, Tennessee Technological University
Smithville TN 37166, 615/597-6801 x111
vpitelka@dtccom.net, wpitelka@tntech.edu
http://iweb.tntech.edu/wpitelka/
http://www.tntech.edu/craftcenter/

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