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reinventing the wheel

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pdp1@EARTHLINK.NET on sun 27 apr 03


Just have some junction terminals accessable for a Drum
Switch to be added if someone wants a Wheel that reverses.

Phil
el vee

----- Original Message -----
From: "John Niehaus"
To:
Sent: Sunday, April 27, 2003 5:44 PM
Subject: reinventing the wheel


> GREETINGS, CLAYFOLK!
> A while back I posted a request for input from Clayarters
for a new wheel
> I have been working on. I haven't gone away, I've just
been lurking.
> ( I had to bite my tongue during the "Boston Wheel"
exchange...I felt I
> shouldn't weigh in on the topic because of my obvious
bias...got to keep
> it fair). The project has taken longer than expected,
mainly because we
> decided to manufacture our own pedals. We couldn't find a
reasonably
> priced pedal off the shelf that was adequately sealed. Our
pedal will be
> completely waterproof and dustproof...you can literally
submerge it in
> water. We just got our first splash pans back from the
molders, and they
> surpassed our highest expectations. I hope to post
detailed specs and
> photos before the end of May.
> I have one question for you all that I hope you can help
with. How
> important is it that a wheel be reversible? We have a
reversible at the
> Indianapolis Art Center that to the best of my knowledge
nobody has ever
> used. I would prefer not to add cost to the design if
there is not demand
> for a particular feature. Please bear in mind that if we
had a request
> for a wheel with clockwise rotation we would be happy to
wire the wheel
> that way at our factory at no additional charge. My
question refers only
> to whether or not the wheel should be reversible by the
end user.
> I hope this post finds everyone healthy and happy. Peace.
>
>
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John Niehaus on sun 27 apr 03


GREETINGS, CLAYFOLK!
A while back I posted a request for input from Clayarters for a new wheel
I have been working on. I haven't gone away, I've just been lurking.
( I had to bite my tongue during the "Boston Wheel" exchange...I felt I
shouldn't weigh in on the topic because of my obvious bias...got to keep
it fair). The project has taken longer than expected, mainly because we
decided to manufacture our own pedals. We couldn't find a reasonably
priced pedal off the shelf that was adequately sealed. Our pedal will be
completely waterproof and dustproof...you can literally submerge it in
water. We just got our first splash pans back from the molders, and they
surpassed our highest expectations. I hope to post detailed specs and
photos before the end of May.
I have one question for you all that I hope you can help with. How
important is it that a wheel be reversible? We have a reversible at the
Indianapolis Art Center that to the best of my knowledge nobody has ever
used. I would prefer not to add cost to the design if there is not demand
for a particular feature. Please bear in mind that if we had a request
for a wheel with clockwise rotation we would be happy to wire the wheel
that way at our factory at no additional charge. My question refers only
to whether or not the wheel should be reversible by the end user.
I hope this post finds everyone healthy and happy. Peace.

Lily Krakowski on mon 28 apr 03


Mazel tov, mazel tov.

In my very limited opinion--reversible only if/when you export.



ohn Niehaus writes:

> GREETINGS, CLAYFOLK!
> A while back I posted a request for input from Clayarters for a new wheel
> I have been working on. I haven't gone away, I've just been lurking.
> ( I had to bite my tongue during the "Boston Wheel" exchange...I felt I
> shouldn't weigh in on the topic because of my obvious bias...got to keep
> it fair). The project has taken longer than expected, mainly because we
> decided to manufacture our own pedals. We couldn't find a reasonably
> priced pedal off the shelf that was adequately sealed. Our pedal will be
> completely waterproof and dustproof...you can literally submerge it in
> water. We just got our first splash pans back from the molders, and they
> surpassed our highest expectations. I hope to post detailed specs and
> photos before the end of May.
> I have one question for you all that I hope you can help with. How
> important is it that a wheel be reversible? We have a reversible at the
> Indianapolis Art Center that to the best of my knowledge nobody has ever
> used. I would prefer not to add cost to the design if there is not demand
> for a particular feature. Please bear in mind that if we had a request
> for a wheel with clockwise rotation we would be happy to wire the wheel
> that way at our factory at no additional charge. My question refers only
> to whether or not the wheel should be reversible by the end user.
> I hope this post finds everyone healthy and happy. Peace.
>
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Lili Krakowski
P.O. Box #1
Constableville, N.Y.
(315) 942-5916/ 397-2389

Be of good courage....

Sue Clayton on mon 28 apr 03


John -
I frequently reverse the direction of the wheel when applying slip or
engobe decoration. When banding the inside of a bowl, it is easier for
right-handed me to work on the left side of the pot, and that works better
if the wheel is spinning clock-wise. I also find that when banding the
outside, reversing direction after the first swipe gives a more even
application.
-- Sue

John Hesselberth on mon 28 apr 03


Hi John,

I would never even consider a wheel that was not easily reversible. I
throw clockwise and trim counterclockwise. I reverse daily. I am
probably unusual in doing that, but no teaching studio should be
without at least some reversible wheels--if for no other reason to
allow them to host visiting Japanese potters. I also always ask about
wheel reversibility before I sign up for a workshop.

Regards,

John

On Sunday, April 27, 2003, at 08:44 PM, John Niehaus wrote:

> How
> important is it that a wheel be reversible? We have a reversible at the
> Indianapolis Art Center that to the best of my knowledge nobody has
> ever
> used. I would prefer not to add cost to the design if there is not
> demand
> for a particular feature.
http://www.frogpondpottery.com
http://www.masteringglazes.com

John Rodgers on mon 28 apr 03


In addition to clay, I do plaster work at times on my wheel and wouldn't
consider a wheel without it. For plaster it's an absolute necessity.

John Rodgers
Birmingham, AL

Sue Clayton wrote:

>John -
> I frequently reverse the direction of the wheel when applying slip or
>engobe decoration. When banding the inside of a bowl, it is easier for
>right-handed me to work on the left side of the pot, and that works better
>if the wheel is spinning clock-wise. I also find that when banding the
>outside, reversing direction after the first swipe gives a more even
>application.
> -- Sue
>
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Vince Pitelka on mon 28 apr 03


> Please bear in mind that if we had a request
> for a wheel with clockwise rotation we would be happy to wire the wheel
> that way at our factory at no additional charge. My question refers only
> to whether or not the wheel should be reversible by the end user.
> I hope this post finds everyone healthy and happy. Peace.

John -
Sounds like you are being very thorough in the design of your new wheel. I
wish you the best.

Regarding the reversing switch, I would certainly do away with it, as long
as people can specifically order the wheel for clockwise revolution if they
wish. We have a bunch of old Shimpos that are reversible at the Appalachian
Center for Craft, and our newer CIs are reversible, and to my knowledge no
one has ever purposefully operated any of those wheels clockwise in the ten
years I have been there. To me, it just seems an unnecessary expense and
complication.
Good luck -
- Vince

Vince Pitelka
Appalachian Center for Craft
Tennessee Technological University
1560 Craft Center Drive, Smithville TN 37166
Home - vpitelka@dtccom.net
615/597-5376
Office - wpitelka@tntech.edu
615/597-6801 x111, FAX 615/597-6803
http://iweb.tntech.edu/wpitelka/

Brooks Ratledge on tue 29 apr 03


If this were put to a vote, I would vote to keep the reversing switch. I
sometimes use it. I also like having the option available to students.
Patricia Harden
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-----Original Message-----
From: Vince Pitelka
To: CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG
Date: Monday, April 28, 2003 11:13 PM
Subject: Re: reinventing the wheel


>> Please bear in mind that if we had a request
>> for a wheel with clockwise rotation we would be happy to wire the wheel
>> that way at our factory at no additional charge. My question refers only
>> to whether or not the wheel should be reversible by the end user.
>> I hope this post finds everyone healthy and happy. Peace.
>
>John -
>Sounds like you are being very thorough in the design of your new wheel. I
>wish you the best.
>
>Regarding the reversing switch, I would certainly do away with it, as long
>as people can specifically order the wheel for clockwise revolution if they
>wish. We have a bunch of old Shimpos that are reversible at the
Appalachian
>Center for Craft, and our newer CIs are reversible, and to my knowledge no
>one has ever purposefully operated any of those wheels clockwise in the ten
>years I have been there. To me, it just seems an unnecessary expense and
>complication.
>Good luck -
>- Vince
>
>Vince Pitelka
>Appalachian Center for Craft
>Tennessee Technological University
>1560 Craft Center Drive, Smithville TN 37166
>Home - vpitelka@dtccom.net
>615/597-5376
>Office - wpitelka@tntech.edu
>615/597-6801 x111, FAX 615/597-6803
>http://iweb.tntech.edu/wpitelka/
>
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Fredrick Paget on tue 29 apr 03


I vote for the switch. At least design the thing so there is a blank hole
where it can be put as an extra.
I always have added one to my wheels but not every one is savvy about how
these things work so make it an available extra.
I like to throw clockwise but sometimes when a thin wall starts to get
torqued I reverse the wheel to sort of unwind it. Also handy when turning
plaster as it is easier to bear down with the turning tool in reverse. I am
mainly right handed.
Fred
>If this were put to a vote, I would vote to keep the reversing switch. I
>sometimes use it. I also like having the option available to students.
>Patricia Harden

From Fred Paget, Marin County, California, USA

Spencer Wilson on tue 29 apr 03


Hello,

Regarding the issue of whether or not to have a reversing
switch on your wheel. I am left handed and throw clockwise. I can throw
counterclockwise (right handed) as well. I am strongly for the reversing
switch being included on the wheel. I have a studio with 20+ wheels. As
I shopped for wheels, I made it an issue to only look at wheels that
reversed. I teach classes in my studio and will allow left handed
students to throw clockwise. I feel that this doesn't affect their
skills in any way but allows them to be comfortable in their art.



Thank you,



Spencer Wilson

Cedar Mountain Ceramics, Inc.

90 West Hoover Ave.

Cedar City, UT 84720

435-867-9966, fax. 435-867-9976

cmceramics@accesswest.com

John Niehaus on fri 2 may 03


I'd like to thank everyone who responded to my question
about the need for reverse rotation capability for the new
wheel my company is developing. Based on the feedback
we have received, we have decided that if we can offer
this capability without adding much to the cost (not likely)
we will make it standard on all wheels we manufacture.
If this feature adds too much to the cost, we will offer it
as an option. Either way, we will use top shelf components
and offer a system that is protected against damage caused
by sudden reversals. This is not the cheapest way to do it, but
we consider it to be the only acceptable way. I will have more
information soon.

I'm now heading to the art center to retrieve my latest teapot
from the kiln...life is good.

Peace.

John Niehaus on mon 11 aug 03


Greetings, Clayfolk!
The first production run on the new pottery wheel
that I have been telling you all about is nearly
complete. We have units available for immediate
shipment. The website is not up yet, but I have
a brochure that I can e-mail as an attachment
(419K download...lots of pictures). If you would
like more information please e-mail me off list.
As a courtesy to those who responded in the
past to my posts asking for input on the design,
I sent this information to them so that they could
see the end result. I hope this is not perceived as
spamming, as this was certainly not my intention.
Wishing you all the very best.

Peace.

John Niehaus on thu 14 aug 03


Hello Clayfolk. To all of you who have requested
information on the new wheel, sorry for my slow
response. We were in the process of reworking the
brochure and reformatting it as a PDF file for easier
downloading when one of our computers got W32.
BLASTED. Set us back a day or so. Will probably
get the info out tomorrow (Thursday), Friday AM
at the latest. Thanks for your patience.

I'd like to suggest to the world a fitting punishment
for the twisted individuals who create computer
viruses. Drawing and quartering has not been practiced
much since the middle ages. Perhaps it's time to resurrect
the practice? ; )

Peace.