Carl Finch on sat 3 may 03
At 09:17 AM 5/3/03 -0700, Janet Moe / Paul Bailey wrote:
>I recently had someone take some digital shots of my woodfired pots. He
>then tweaked them on photoshop and burnt a CD. This was done on a Mac.
>When I try to read them on my PC it says the file has been moved or
>removed. It works fine on the Mac. I tried another PC with the same
>results. We are both new at this. Anybody know what's up?
I've no experience with Mac's, but did you do this? (from Photoshop Help:
Saving Files)
==============
Append File Extension (Mac OS)
File extensions are necessary for files that you want to use on or transfer
to a Windows system. Choose an option for appending extensions to
filenames: Never to save files without file extensions, Always to append
file extensions to filenames, or Ask When Saving to append file extensions
on a file-by-file basis. Select Use Lower Case to append file extensions
using lowercase characters.
==============
--Carl
John Norris on sat 3 may 03
Janet and Paul,
Could be a couple of things going on. (Sorry to spam the group, but this=
may be handy for others.)
Can the PC read the files on the disk at all? If not, it may be that the=
CD format was not correct. The Mac may need to create the CD with a "uni=
versal"
ISO-9660 format (or a Mac/PC hybrid disk) for the PC to be able to read
it. Then there may be other issues as well, including how the files are
named...etc...This page describes a bit about it: http://www.macdisk.com/=
isoen.php3.
However, if you are able to see the files on the PC, it may be that the
files are in a format the PC has trouble with. Can you tell if they are
.JPG or .GIF file types? If the photographer emailed you one of those fi=
les
could your PC read it?
Macs are able to create CDs that can be read by PC's. It is often just
a matter of the proper settings.
John
john-norris.net
(Built on a Mac!)
Date: Sat, 3 May 2003 09:17:15 -0700
From: Janet Moe / Paul Bailey
Subject: mac/pc and photos
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I recently had someone take some digital shots of my woodfired pots. He
then tweaked them on photoshop and burnt a CD. This was done on a Mac.
When I try to read them on my PC it says the file has been moved or
removed. It works fine on the Mac. I tried another PC with the same
results. We are both new at this. Anybody know what's up?
*****
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Janet Moe / Paul Bailey on sat 3 may 03
I recently had someone take some digital shots of my woodfired pots. He
then tweaked them on photoshop and burnt a CD. This was done on a Mac.
When I try to read them on my PC it says the file has been moved or
removed. It works fine on the Mac. I tried another PC with the same
results. We are both new at this. Anybody know what's up?
Janet Kaiser on sun 4 may 03
There may be other reasons such as the CD burner programme being
incompatible for other older or newer CD-Rom drives. To check that out
first, try viewing directly on the CD by opening your Internet browser and
click "open file" with "all files" checked. If you can actually see the
image files, they should open in your browser. That means that the CD is
"working".
I would then look at how the photographer saved the images.... When saving
in PhotoShop on a Mac (for use on a PC later), the edited image is "saved
as" (or whatever the Mac option is called) making sure that the IBM box is
checked at this point. Also save as .jpg and not .jpeg which are unreadable
in PhotoShop on a PC... At least they are for me!
Make sure to use "save as" so that the PC/Mac option pops up. Straight
"copy" does not work. The opposite to all this is naturally applicable when
saving on a PC for use on a Mac!
You may want to keep a double set of images. One for Mac and one for PC
use, so that you can submit what printers, galleries, magazines, galleries,
selection committees, etc. call for. It is not essential though. Many in
The Arts, publishing, etc. use Macs, but now most home users including
"poor artists" are PC dependent, the professionals are having to make sure
they have conversion options.
Hope this helps!
Sincerely
Janet Kaiser
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>I recently had someone take some digital shots of my woodfired pots. He
>then tweaked them on photoshop and burnt a CD. This was done on a Mac.
>When I try to read them on my PC it says the file has been moved or
>removed. It works fine on the Mac. I tried another PC with the same
>results. We are both new at this. Anybody know what's up?
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Bob Nicholson on sun 4 may 03
>I recently had someone take some digital shots of my woodfired pots. He
>then tweaked them on photoshop and burnt a CD. This was done on a Mac.
>When I try to read them on my PC it says the file has been moved or
>removed. It works fine on the Mac. I tried another PC with the same
>results. We are both new at this. Anybody know what's up?
Macs and PCs use different disk formats. Macs can read and write both,
but PCs are a little less flexible in this regard.
My guess is that your friend burned a CD in a Mac-only format. Depending
on what programs he is using, there should be a setting to allow him to
burn a disk that a PC can read. (I use Roxio Toast for making CDs.)
- Bob Nicholson
Susan Setley on sun 4 may 03
In a message dated 5/3/03 10:31:05 PM, baileymoe@TELUS.NET writes:
<< I recently had someone take some digital shots of my woodfired pots. He
then tweaked them on photoshop and burnt a CD. This was done on a Mac.
When I try to read them on my PC it says the file has been moved or
removed. It works fine on the Mac. I tried another PC with the same
results. We are both new at this. Anybody know what's up? >>
Macs can read PC files but PC's can't always read Mac files.
For things like floppy disks (remember them?) and zip drives, formatting them
on a PC usually works. Mac developed a process for formatting PC's but ... it
doesn't always work. PC's vary a lot.
Arnold Howard on mon 5 may 03
My understanding is that a photo made on a PC computer will work on
either PC or Mac, but a photo made on a Mac can't be opened on a PC.
Sincerely,
Arnold Howard
Paragon Industries, L.P.
www.paragonweb.com
From: Janet Moe / Paul Bailey
> I recently had someone take some digital shots of my woodfired pots.
He
> then tweaked them on photoshop and burnt a CD. This was done on a Mac.
> When I try to read them on my PC it says the file has been moved or
> removed. It works fine on the Mac. I tried another PC with the same
> results. We are both new at this. Anybody know what's up?
Christena Schafale on mon 5 may 03
One thing I have learned from receiving lots of images from lots of people
recently -- Macs don't have the same sensitivity to file extensions that
PCs have. Many times, all I have to do to make a Mac-born image readable
on my PC is to rename it with the .jpg extension. Then the PC goes, "oh! a
picture!" and opens it right up. The file itself is fine, the extension is
all that's missing/wrong.
Janet wrote:
> Also save as .jpg and not .jpeg which are unreadable
>in PhotoShop on a PC... At least they are for me!
>
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Joe at The Harrison Art Center on mon 5 may 03
Try saving the Mac Photos in Photoshop by going to "File' and then selecting "Save for the Web"......... this should make the photo able to open on any computer. Saving in this format before burning the CD may work..
Then in your CD burning - toast - software set it to "Hybrid - MAC OS Extended and PC Compatable" Good Luck
Susan Setley on tue 6 may 03
In a message dated 5/6/03 1:17:53 AM, christenas@RFSNC.ORG writes:
<< One thing I have learned from receiving lots of images from lots of people
recently -- Macs don't have the same sensitivity to file extensions that
PCs have. Many times, all I have to do to make a Mac-born image readable
on my PC is to rename it with the .jpg extension. Then the PC goes, "oh! a
picture!" and opens it right up. The file itself is fine, the extension is
all that's missing/wrong. >>
Very good point. No, you don't need extensions on Macs.
Bob Nicholson on tue 6 may 03
>My understanding is that a photo made on a PC computer will work on
>either PC or Mac, but a photo made on a Mac can't be opened on a PC.
This is not correct. Photos may be stored in several formats... JPEG
and TIFF being the most common. These file formats are well-defined
industry standards that are used by all computers, including Macs, PCs,
HP workstations, Linux, etc.
It is true that, in the TIFF spec, there is an option to save in
Motorola (Mac) byte order, or Intel (Windows) byte order. This
harks back to the days when swapping byte order was a big deal.
Today's computers are so powerful that the software takes different
byte order in stride - it really doesn't matter which you choose.
"Windows" systems are more sensitive to file naming and extensions.
When saving files for a PC, be sure to use the correct 3-letter file
extension. (For example, JPEG must be reduced to .jpg)
My wife runs a graphic design shop, and although all her designers
use Macs, they have no trouble exchanging files with client who use
PCs.
- Bob Nicholson
Tony Ferguson on tue 6 may 03
You want to save images as Tiffs if you want either computer to be-able to
read them.
Thank you.
Tony Ferguson
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315 N. Lake Ave
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Duluth, MN 55806
----- Original Message -----
From: "Arnold Howard"
To:
Sent: Monday, May 05, 2003 10:26 AM
Subject: Re: mac/pc and photos
> My understanding is that a photo made on a PC computer will work on
> either PC or Mac, but a photo made on a Mac can't be opened on a PC.
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Arnold Howard
> Paragon Industries, L.P.
> www.paragonweb.com
>
>
>
> From: Janet Moe / Paul Bailey
>
> > I recently had someone take some digital shots of my woodfired pots.
> He
> > then tweaked them on photoshop and burnt a CD. This was done on a Mac.
> > When I try to read them on my PC it says the file has been moved or
> > removed. It works fine on the Mac. I tried another PC with the same
> > results. We are both new at this. Anybody know what's up?
>
>
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