pdp1@EARTHLINK.NET on mon 5 may 03
Being in some moments, something of an amateur scientist, I
must wonder on what basis
assertions may be made as to homo sapiens sapiens ( or such
as pass for such, anyway...) feeling
'pain'?
What is the 'proof'? ( ...besides 'heresay'? - which is not
admissable.)
(...leaving aside, inadvertant evocations of 'why' anyone
should
'care'...)
Is it a casual transference from the appreciation that other
species do? Or that one may 'relate' ( project? interpolate?
imaginatively sympathise? 'feel' for them) ?
It it mere apocryphy? Old wive's tales? Sentimental
'emotional' transferances?
...or is there some scientificly proven basis?
Just curious...
Phil
el vee
----- Original Message -----
From: "Lily Krakowski"
> Dear Janet, what is this about a fish screaming? Is that
what made people
> realize fish feel pain? If people do, why shouldn't
fish...but that is not
> the point...I still need to know...what is this about
screaming fish?
>
> Back to La Belle Porcelaine.
>
> You write:
> >Porcelain does not tolerate
> > sloppiness, impatience, unskilled or careless handling.
It is totally
> > unforgiving of poor technique and lazy workmanship even
before it gets as
> > far as the kiln. Whether hand-building or throwing, the
high skill levels
> > necessary for successful and constant porcelain
production are awesome."
>
> To which I can only say: OY! I submit ALL clay DEMANDS
those good things
> you list, and hates the bad stuff. To return to our fish:
if porcelain
> "screams" , good for it! But to assume that non-screaming
clays like being
> turned into bad pots, speaks badly, very very badly for
contemporary
> standards of workmanship. If indeed people work in other
than porcelain
> clays because they think they can get away with being
sloppy, careless
> "craftsmen" I will join that fish in screaming....
>
> It is pitiful if porcelain is used as a criterion for
craftsmanship.
> Except, perhaps, at the level of manufacturing and studio
cleanliness.
>
> This awe and admiration for the Big P. lessens the
appreciation of other
> skills. Mary Wondrausch's slip decorated platters
paralyze my brain with
> their exhibition of skill. Right there in UK before your
very eyes there
> are MASTER throwers of magnificent stoneware....my hand is
still not well
> enough to do a list...but you know who they are...
>
> This reminds me of something else. Haute Cuisine. There
actually was life
> on earth before Balsamic Vinegar, and Sun Dried Tomatoes
were "discovered"
> Maybe some mothers in Modena sent their emigrant children
a bottle of BV for
> Christmas...but that was that. Ditto with SDT. Today of
course people cut
> you in the street if you do not use these products. To
serve a salad with a
> lemon vinaigrette is too declassé! Not to have some SDT
hanging from a
> string in a noticeable spot in your kitchen costs you all
your friends!
>
> I fear, yes, I honestly do, that the aura of Porcelain has
reached a point
> where people who do not know "from tooting and blowing "
(I cannot spell
> German, hence translate) feel SAFE admiring The Big P,
and do not trust
> themselves to fall on their knees in front of a plain
eartheware pot that is
> too glorious for words.
>
> I now will stop carping ....
>
>
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