pdp1@EARTHLINK.NET on fri 9 may 03
Hi Joe,
Have no worries about the Wheel Head being a source of
regret so far as soluable aluminium for your hands to
absorb...deoderant has a much more substantial offering in
that regard...
Too, the 'motor' of your wheel has enjoyed a much higher
implication for inducing long term neurological
deterioration than whatever amount of aluminium you could
imaginable be getting from your Wheel Head.
As does the '60-cycle' flux in general from every electric
appliance you may use up-close, and the Power Lines and
Transformers and sun Stations and so on which do not need
for you to be as close...( and the latter, for a whole host
of other 'regrets' too, it seems...)
Or...the 'jury' as they say, murmers, but it still 'out'
anyway...time will tell if they remember to come'back' with
the verdicts...(or what the 'jury-instruction' shall be...)
Phil
el vee
----- Original Message -----
From: "Joe Coniglio"
To:
Sent: Friday, May 09, 2003 12:31 PM
Subject: Aluminum absorption from metal wheel head
> I had an odd fear the other night that I was absorbing
soluable aluminum
> particulates through my skin, that were rubbing off onto
my wet palms from
> cast aluminum electric wheel heads. I do not use a batt.
That might not be
> obvious, but our class instructors do not encourage batts
because they take
> too much space up on the shelves, hence we throw right on
the wheel heads.
> With the scare that aluminum can cause alheimers, and
because most potters
> are already on bottle short of a six pack to begin with I
thought I'd ask
> about it. Just kidding about the six pack. ----seems all
wheelheads are
> made of this virtually same cast aluminum. I'm using
Brent. But look
> around, they are all similar or the same types of aluminum
heads --Joe
>
>
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Joe Coniglio on fri 9 may 03
I had an odd fear the other night that I was absorbing soluable aluminum
particulates through my skin, that were rubbing off onto my wet palms from
cast aluminum electric wheel heads. I do not use a batt. That might not be
obvious, but our class instructors do not encourage batts because they take
too much space up on the shelves, hence we throw right on the wheel heads.
With the scare that aluminum can cause alheimers, and because most potters
are already on bottle short of a six pack to begin with I thought I'd ask
about it. Just kidding about the six pack. ----seems all wheelheads are
made of this virtually same cast aluminum. I'm using Brent. But look
around, they are all similar or the same types of aluminum heads --Joe
Fredrick Paget on sat 10 may 03
If you are worried about aluminum how about clay? It has aluminum oxide in
its makeup.
The electric fields Phil is explaining exist everywhere, I wear two modern
hearing aids that have a feature that allows me to hear better on the
telephone. I press a little buttom on the back of the aid and it switches
to "Telecoil" which picks up the magnetic field made by the coils inside
the telephone earpiece. It is also sensitive to those stray fields. Right
now I turned it on and I can hear a field from the computer monitor.I am 2
feet from the screen. As I lean closer it gets louder. I also hear the
compact flourescent light overhead.
From what I hear neither aluminum or those stray fields should be cause for
worry.
Show us the bodies!
Fred
>Hi Joe,
>
>Have no worries about the Wheel Head being a source of
>regret so far as soluable aluminium for your hands to
>absorb...deoderant has a much more substantial offering in
>that regard...
>
>Too, the 'motor' of your wheel has enjoyed a much higher
>implication for inducing long term neurological
>deterioration than whatever amount of aluminium you could
>imaginable be getting from your Wheel Head.
>
>As does the '60-cycle' flux in general from every electric
>appliance you may use up-close, and the Power Lines and
>Transformers and sun Stations and so on which do not need
>for you to be as close...( and the latter, for a whole host
>of other 'regrets' too, it seems...)
.....
>Phil
.
>> I had an odd fear the other night that I was absorbing
>soluable aluminum
>> particulates through my skin, that were rubbing off onto
>my wet palms from
>> cast aluminum electric wheel heads. I.....
Joe
From Fred Paget, Marin County, California, USA
Gail Dapogny on sat 10 may 03
Hi Joe,
Seems to me that you could compromise on the bat situation. Several clay
supply companies have bat systems where you use a master template piece on
your wheel head into which fit smaller wooden or masonite bats, usually
square. They take up very little space.
Another idea would be to use what Dannon Rhudy described: cut some squares
of strong canvas and use them as bats, held down by slip on the wheelhead.
That's sort of what I remember; you might want to ask her, or she might
jump in here.
---Gail Dapogny in Ann Arbo. Michigan
>I had an odd fear the other night that I was absorbing soluable aluminum
>particulates through my skin, that were rubbing off onto my wet palms from
>cast aluminum electric wheel heads. I do not use a batt. That might not be
>obvious, but our class instructors do not encourage batts because they take
>too much space up on the shelves, hence we throw right on the wheel heads.
>With the scare that aluminum can cause alheimers, and because most potters
>are already on bottle short of a six pack to begin with I thought I'd ask
>about it. Just kidding about the six pack. ----seems all wheelheads are
>made of this virtually same cast aluminum. I'm using Brent. But look
>around, they are all similar or the same types of aluminum heads --Joe
>
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Ditmar on sat 10 may 03
I seriously doubt there would be anything to worry about. The metal itself
and oxides are what's coming off in minute amounts.
But, if you or any others still have concerns, look into having the wheel
head painted.
A properly applied urethane / automobile paint ( or clear coat ) should hold
up quite well. And cheap and easy enough to re apply when needed.
Ditmar
----- Original Message -----
From: "Joe Coniglio"
To:
Sent: Friday, May 09, 2003 9:31 AM
Subject: Aluminum absorption from metal wheel head
> I had an odd fear the other night that I was absorbing soluable aluminum
> particulates through my skin, that were rubbing off onto my wet palms from
> cast aluminum electric wheel heads.
Edouard Bastarache on sat 10 may 03
Aluminium neurotoxicity
Aluminium is neurotoxic :
1- If injected in the brain of animals,
2- Among dialysis patients :
The acute encephalopathy seen in some dialysis patients has been traced to
the aluminium in dialysis water, indicating that aluminium is also toxic for
humans if it reaches the brain, but neither the clinical syndrome nor the
pathology resemble Alzheimer's Disease(AD).
Studies have found that aluminium levels are not elevated in the brains of
patients with AD or in association with plaques or tangles; aluminium levels
are also not elevated in the bone, blood, or cerebrospinal fluid of AD
patients.
Thus, results of preliminary studies indicating an association between the
aluminium in drinking water water and AD were not confirmed by more
in-depth studies. Epidemiological studies investigating aluminium as an AD
risk factor, including the Canadian Study of Health and Aging, concluded
that exposure to aluminium in tap water does not increase the risk of AD.
Furthermore, prolonged intake of antiacid medications that contain aluminium
in doses 1000s of times greater than drinking water is not associated with
the development of AD.
Finally, there was no increased risk detected for workers exposed to
aluminium
dust and fumes.
Reference :
Canadian Medical Association Journal, January11,2000
Later,
"Ils sont fous ces Quebecois"
Edouard Bastarache
Irreductible Quebecois
Indomitable Quebeker
Sorel-Tracy
Quebec
edouardb@sorel-tracy.qc.ca
http://sorel-tracy.qc.ca/~edouardb/
http://perso.wanadoo.fr/smart2000/index.htm
Lily Krakowski on sat 10 may 03
Because that black slime is so annoying, esp. when one is working with
lightcolored clay, I keep a 14" plastic bat on the wheel, and cut my pots
OFF it as though it were the wheel head.
Gail Dapogny writes:
> Hi Joe,
> Seems to me that you could compromise on the bat situation. Several clay
> supply companies have bat systems where you use a master template piece on
> your wheel head into which fit smaller wooden or masonite bats, usually
> square. They take up very little space.
>
> Another idea would be to use what Dannon Rhudy described: cut some squares
> of strong canvas and use them as bats, held down by slip on the wheelhead.
> That's sort of what I remember; you might want to ask her, or she might
> jump in here.
> ---Gail Dapogny in Ann Arbo. Michigan
>
>
>>I had an odd fear the other night that I was absorbing soluable aluminum
>>particulates through my skin, that were rubbing off onto my wet palms from
>>cast aluminum electric wheel heads. I do not use a batt. That might not be
>>obvious, but our class instructors do not encourage batts because they take
>>too much space up on the shelves, hence we throw right on the wheel heads.
>>With the scare that aluminum can cause alheimers, and because most potters
>>are already on bottle short of a six pack to begin with I thought I'd ask
>>about it. Just kidding about the six pack. ----seems all wheelheads are
>>made of this virtually same cast aluminum. I'm using Brent. But look
>>around, they are all similar or the same types of aluminum heads --Joe
>>
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>>melpots@pclink.com.
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Be of good courage....
Joseph Coniglio on mon 12 may 03
Ahh yes, the famous Dynamo Hum! (made famous in a Frank Zappa tune) Good point!!
Take care.
pdp1@EARTHLINK.NET wrote:
> Hi Joe,
>
> Have no worries about the Wheel Head being a source of
> regret so far as soluable aluminium for your hands to
> absorb...deoderant has a much more substantial offering in
> that regard...
>
> Too, the 'motor' of your wheel has enjoyed a much higher
> implication for inducing long term neurological
> deterioration than whatever amount of aluminium you could
> imaginable be getting from your Wheel Head.
>
> As does the '60-cycle' flux in general from every electric
> appliance you may use up-close, and the Power Lines and
> Transformers and sun Stations and so on which do not need
> for you to be as close...( and the latter, for a whole host
> of other 'regrets' too, it seems...)
>
> Or...the 'jury' as they say, murmers, but it still 'out'
> anyway...time will tell if they remember to come'back' with
> the verdicts...(or what the 'jury-instruction' shall be...)
>
> Phil
> el vee
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Joe Coniglio"
> To:
> Sent: Friday, May 09, 2003 12:31 PM
> Subject: Aluminum absorption from metal wheel head
>
> > I had an odd fear the other night that I was absorbing
> soluable aluminum
> > particulates through my skin, that were rubbing off onto
> my wet palms from
> > cast aluminum electric wheel heads. I do not use a batt.
> That might not be
> > obvious, but our class instructors do not encourage batts
> because they take
> > too much space up on the shelves, hence we throw right on
> the wheel heads.
> > With the scare that aluminum can cause alheimers, and
> because most potters
> > are already on bottle short of a six pack to begin with I
> thought I'd ask
> > about it. Just kidding about the six pack. ----seems all
> wheelheads are
> > made of this virtually same cast aluminum. I'm using
> Brent. But look
> > around, they are all similar or the same types of aluminum
> heads --Joe
> >
> >
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Tommy Humphries on wed 14 may 03
I, though for vastly different reasons had a steel bat
made at a machine shop to fit my brent...I wanted a
wheel head that would not wear out, plus the extra
weight really smoothed out the vibes from the motor.
The wheel feels almost as smooth as a kick wheel now.
What I had made looks like a plastibat...only with the
pin holes countersunk to accept flush fitting machine
screws.
I gaurantee you will not wear out this puppy, at 3/8"
thick and 16" diameter It is here to stay.
Tommy Humphries
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Russel Fouts on thu 15 may 03
Tommy
>> I, though for vastly different reasons had a steel bat made at a machine shop to fit my brent...I wanted a wheel head that would not wear out, plus the extra weight really smoothed out the vibes from the motor. The wheel feels almost as smooth as a kick wheel now. What I had made looks like a plastibat...only with the pin holes countersunk to accept flush fitting machine
screws. I gaurantee you will not wear out this puppy, at 3/8" thick and
16" diameter It is here to stay. <<
In Charles Counts' book he has plans to build a wheel with a really
thick wooden head looks about 2 inches thick. That also seems really
nice.
Russel
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