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lily's post of re: school programs and them 'shorter' weeks...short

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Dean Walker on fri 9 may 03


Children's creative spirits are shriviling on the vine in the warehouses
known as our public schools. Some manage to do very well, but the majority of
them are stagnating from lack of motivation.....not lack of funds.
The world is wide and wonderful. It seems odd that we should sacrifice our
young to give them more things. I like the post from the artist that said
"I'm Rich"....when he replied to the post about how much money we make.
Teaching our young makes them richer.

Dean

pdp1@EARTHLINK.NET on fri 9 may 03


Hi Lily,


Now and then thru' the years, at Cocktail Parties or other
small social events, I have heard parents complain ( or make
conversation-fodder of, ) that their "kids were not doin'
well in school..."

I allways said, "Good for them!"

That usually shuts them up.


No one yet ever asked me, "What do you mean?"

And that, in it's way...is so much my point...



This is not what we or they would do if we ( really) loved
them, or ourselves or Life.

And in my view, the energy of that denial, animates the
whole, or does so more than not.

I would encourage people to follow their conscience, or such
of it as may be discoverable, if they are not too afraid of
it to 'follow' it.

Rather, than ( be taught to) follow others who do not, which
is overmuch 'the' instruction...of 'school'.


Phil
el vee

----- Original Message -----
From: "Lily Krakowski"

> Dean, Phil:
>
> The American Tragedy we see all around us is that unless
children are in
> school most of them run around unsupervised. The number
of children who
> have a parent or similar waiting at home with cookies and
milk when the kids
> get out of school seems to be melting quicker than the
snow on our hills.
>
> I do not think that shorter school weeks and hours are
nearly as good an
> answer as longer school weeks, and longer school years,
and supervised
> post-school acgtivities. All you home schoolers --God
bless you every
> one--are wonderful; but too few parents have the skills,
or the economic
> possibility needed.
>
>
>
>
>
> pdp1@EARTHLINK.NET writes:
>
> > I say, the 'shorter' the better...
> >
> >> Phil
> >>
> >
> >> A four day school week would be cool. On the fifth
day
> > the children can
> >> spend the entire day on art and music. The public
> > libraries have tons of
> >> instuctional videos on art, music, cooking, history,
> > languages anything you
> >> want to know and see. Take three day field trips.You
may
> > really enjoy this
> >> opportunity.
> >>
> >> Dean
> >>
> >>
> >
> Lili Krakowski
> P.O. Box #1
> Constableville, N.Y.
> (315) 942-5916/ 397-2389
>
> Be of good courage....
>
>
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Lily Krakowski on fri 9 may 03


Phil: I could not agree more. I think what passes for childhood these
days is a horror, and I am glad that my childhood, spiced up by Hitler, War
and other divertisimenti at least was a childhood. Kelly and several others
on this list are what parents are about, and God will bless them and their
kiddies.

Unfortunately few children in this country have that sort of
parents....School is the best environment most kiddies have.

As Dowland already said: Flow on, my tears....


pdp1@EARTHLINK.NET writes:

> Hi Lily,
>
>
> Now and then thru' the years, at Cocktail Parties or other
> small social events, I have heard parents complain ( or make
> conversation-fodder of, ) that their "kids were not doin'
> well in school..."
>
> I allways said, "Good for them!"
>
> That usually shuts them up.
>
>
> No one yet ever asked me, "What do you mean?"
>
> And that, in it's way...is so much my point...
>
>
>
> This is not what we or they would do if we ( really) loved
> them, or ourselves or Life.
>
> And in my view, the energy of that denial, animates the
> whole, or does so more than not.
>
> I would encourage people to follow their conscience, or such
> of it as may be discoverable, if they are not too afraid of
> it to 'follow' it.
>
> Rather, than ( be taught to) follow others who do not, which
> is overmuch 'the' instruction...of 'school'.
>
>
> Phil
> el vee
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Lily Krakowski"
>
>> Dean, Phil:
>>
>> The American Tragedy we see all around us is that unless
> children are in
>> school most of them run around unsupervised. The number
> of children who
>> have a parent or similar waiting at home with cookies and
> milk when the kids
>> get out of school seems to be melting quicker than the
> snow on our hills.
>>
>> I do not think that shorter school weeks and hours are
> nearly as good an
>> answer as longer school weeks, and longer school years,
> and supervised
>> post-school acgtivities. All you home schoolers --God
> bless you every
>> one--are wonderful; but too few parents have the skills,
> or the economic
>> possibility needed.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> pdp1@EARTHLINK.NET writes:
>>
>> > I say, the 'shorter' the better...
>> >
>> >> Phil
>> >>
>> >
>> >> A four day school week would be cool. On the fifth
> day
>> > the children can
>> >> spend the entire day on art and music. The public
>> > libraries have tons of
>> >> instuctional videos on art, music, cooking, history,
>> > languages anything you
>> >> want to know and see. Take three day field trips.You
> may
>> > really enjoy this
>> >> opportunity.
>> >>
>> >> Dean
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> Lili Krakowski
>> P.O. Box #1
>> Constableville, N.Y.
>> (315) 942-5916/ 397-2389
>>
>> Be of good courage....
>>
>>
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Lili Krakowski
P.O. Box #1
Constableville, N.Y.
(315) 942-5916/ 397-2389

Be of good courage....

John Rodgers on sat 10 may 03


Dean,

I have been a "Teacher" all my life, first as a public school teacher
and then on into other fields, such as aviation, public health, clay
art, and as a parent. Even now, as a so-called "retired person" I teach.

In my experience over 40 years, the key is not so much all the fine and
fancy physical facilities, or all the fancy equipment in a school, but
the inovativeness of the teacher that makes the difference. Plus the
time (read time per student - teacher/pupil ratio) to be a leader for
the student, to direct him in his own studies, to answer questions, to
be a mentor, to stimulate, to challenge, to excite, to energize young
minds, to get them to want to learn more and more and more.

The quality of that teacher, and the opportunity of time for that
teacher to do his or her job, is crucial to turning on young minds,
rather than turning them off. There is no more wonderful thing in this
world than to see the bright eyed wonder and excitement in childrens and
young peoples eyes in the excitement of discovery.

The world is a fascinating and interesting place, and there are "So
many wonders to behold, and so little time!"

John Rodgers
Birmingham, AL

Dean Walker wrote:

> Children's creative spirits are shriviling on the vine in the warehouses
>known as our public schools. Some manage to do very well, but the majority of
>them are stagnating from lack of motivation.....not lack of funds.
> The world is wide and wonderful. It seems odd that we should sacrifice our
>young to give them more things. I like the post from the artist that said
>"I'm Rich"....when he replied to the post about how much money we make.
>Teaching our young makes them richer.
>
>Dean
>
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