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(janet's) ye ancient lore and anecdote on firing with waste oil -

updated tue 20 may 03

 

pdp1@EARTHLINK.NET on sun 18 may 03

and...

Hi Janet!

You are quite right - I apologise!

I did not feel as uptight as I sounded, but it did sound a
mite yukky regardless...

Ugh...sorry...Oh!

( Not an excuse, but allergies wanging me so I feel like the
into to that old tee-vee show, 'The Time Tunnel' or whatever
it was...things seem kalidescopicly dizzying, and it is
awefully hard to think straight...me and everyone I know
here, lately especially, crabby and dopey and blurry-eyed
and digestion problems and swirling aches and fatigue and on
and on...sheesh...anyway...! Messin' with my poor pointy
little head...)

But in answer to your last part here...

I'd guess the impediment for happy Oil fireings, ( that is
of 'heavy' Oil) would be in the respect as is payed to the
Burner being adapted to the task, and that it be supplied
with enough Air to do so, especially in the earlier phases
of a fireing when there is little draft to make use of, or,
even
after that.

If this were to mean one uses a Sqirrell Cage Blower, or
abundant
Compressed Air, then so be it...

Or maybe methods as allow other fuels for getting things up
to heat, then swithing to the Oil, as we heard of the
Tuskarora Pottery having been doing...and others too, I
think.

The complaints mostly seem to involve symptoms as suggest
there was too little Air for the Fuel to use to burn well,
or completely enough. Which may suggest the fuel was pooling
or not atomised enough.


As there are Burners and plans for them, as will make a
roaring flame from the get-go without smoke or other
unpleasantness on used Oil from Crank Cases of Cars and so
on, there do seem to be promising developements one may
investigate.

As I have now been thinking on this deliberately, I will
look into some of the Burners as are well thought of, and
see what they do. Maybe get one, or examine the plans and
make one and fool around with it.

This interests me to have for Heating my Shop, (or as a
sometimes alternative to useing Wood from Pallets, which is
not allways convenient to do) as well as for the Kiln I want
to build when I am moved from here to someplace with room to
do it, and less busybodies to interfere.

Again, please excuse my funky attitude there...

Love!

Phil
el vee

----- Original Message -----
From: "Janet Kaiser"
To:
Sent: Sunday, May 18, 2003 5:00 PM
Subject: Re: ye ancient lore and anecdote on firing with
waste oil


> Lighten up, Phil! What 18-20 year olds approach "problem
solving" in the
> same way as those with years of life experience under
their belts? A gang
> of kids from comfortable middle-class backgrounds who had
not even dirtied
> their hands before going to college, with their only
support a technician
> whose greatest pride was his spotless lab coat, are not
ideal candidates
> for brain of the year awards when it comes to solving
technical problems.
> It was "cutting edge" stuff at the time and we were pretty
excited about
> the whole concept and had a go, even if we failed. In
hindsight, we did
> pretty well to get anything working, without setting fire
to the whole
> college!
>
> Their efforts may have been contemptible, but they (we)
certainly entered
> into the project full of enthusiasm. Yes, failure was
probably a result of
> incompetence, ignorance and sheer inability to appreciate
the principles
> involved, but like I said it was 30 years ago and is a
pretty good story
> about how NOT to set about a project of that nature. Even
"common sense"
> cannot be applied to complicated problems without some
sort of experience
> to back it up. Yes, it was all very much a case of "where
fools rush in",
> which was the whole point of my post.
>
> Waste oil aside... There must be a reason why oil-fired
kilns do not share
> the popularity of propane, gas or electric. Does anyone
have experience of
> modern commercially fired oil kilns? Is there even such a
beast? Out of
> idyl curiosity, I would like to know how they perform vs
the home-made
> version. I do not believe that the "dirt factor" can be
avoided, but will
> look forward to being corrected.
>
> Sincerely
>
> Janet Kaiser
>
> *** IN REPLY TO THE FOLLOWING MAIL:
> *** From: pdp1@EARTHLINK.NET
> *** E-address: pdp1@EARTHLINK.NET
> *** Sent: 17/05/03 Time: 19:32
>
> >Hi Janet!
> >
> >This is terrible!
> >
> >Is it possible to surmise that a modicum of 'sense' would
> >have benifited them?
> >
> >snip<
> >They demonstrated nothing other than their contempt for
the
> >task, and it's appreciation.
> >
> >All that 'carbon' was not a 'clue' to them?
> >
> >...sheesh!
> >
> >
> >Phil
> >el vee
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Janet Kaiser on tue 20 may 03

and...

Don't worry about it, Phil! Whether with or without allergies, a little
verbal bantering between old buddies like you and me is perfectly
acceptable you know! No need to apologise! Especially to one of the
clumsiest around.

It has been great hearing about how people obviously took up the ball and
ran... Even books written about it! Well, what subject does not have a
book? But actually hearing of potters using this "alternative technology"
(for want of a better expression) is revealing. I wish you success with the
oil kiln, but hummm... Just be careful when heating a living space, won't
you? There are still a lot of potters who still need to discover your tools
and you don't want to deprive the world of that source, do you?! >worried
grin<

Cheers

Janet

*** IN REPLY TO THE FOLLOWING MAIL:
>This interests me to have for Heating my Shop, (or as a
>sometimes alternative to useing Wood from Pallets, which is
>not allways convenient to do) as well as for the Kiln I want
>to build when I am moved from here to someplace with room to
>do it, and less busybodies to interfere.
>
>Phil
>el vee

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