pdp1@EARTHLINK.NET on wed 21 may 03
Hey Tony,
I think he had it scratched into a Bat...or more than one
bat, actually...(Bats as had other incidental scrapes and
scratches in them too...)
The bottoms picked it up from that, rather than that the
mugs were cast per-se...
A 'positive' emblem or character on a Bat is an interesting
idea for something to be transfered in relief onto the
bottoms of things then Thrown.
I will try that when I can get back into my Throwing...at
least for the 'spanked' bottoms, not for the trimmed ones!
Phil
lasvegas
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tony Ferguson"
To:
Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2003 2:47 PM
Subject: Re: Koie Ryoji On-line Exhibition
> Gayle,
>
> I not only have kevlar, I got this purple metal armor from
outer space that
> was apparently forged in the crucible of Mt. Volkous!
>
> I think it is a matter of pride. Now maybe, secretly, this
was his desired
> reaction? For people to say, "what! $200.... for that?
And now we are
> looking at it more closely. Its body actually looks molded
because of the
> bottom text riding on the surface. I don't see the point
if it is
> slipcasted other than if he felt he couldn't get the
raised surface any
> other way and slipcasting was the only way to manifest his
artistic
> expression. I personally think mold making is an art unto
itself--it is
> rather how it is used that divides the frog shop pixy dust
from the finer
> art aspect of utilizing this process for well executed
artistic creation. I
> did look at some of his other work and enjoyed the
looseness and interaction
> with the glazes.
>
> Tony F.
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "claybair"
> To:
> Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2003 1:38 PM
> Subject: Re: Koie Ryoji On-line Exhibition
>
>
> > Ohhh........ Tony now you have done it!!!
> > Better get out your kevlar vest!!!
> > Personally I agree and feel that even a great artist can
produce crap.
> > If we can look at some of Picasso's or any other famous
artist's work and
> > say
> > it is crap why should any master potter be exempt from
the same critique.
> > Money corrupts...I wonder how many of us would toss it
in the trash if we
> > could get
> > $250 for a crappy looking mug that had our famous name
on it?????
> >
> > Gayle Bair - wishing my crap sold for $275
> > Bainbridge Island, WA
> > http://claybair.com
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Tony Ferguson
> >
> > I am not afraid to say it,
> >
> > The cups are crap. The handles do not go with the cups,
a shape that
> > appears to not fit the hand well, and the bottoms are
carelessly crafted.
> > They are not worth $275. What is spectacular or awe
inspiring about them?
> > They are clear glazed (heavily crazed clear glaze I
might add) porcelain.
> > So what. If I was a big name, whatever, I would be
embarrassed to put
> > those cups up for sale.
> >
> >
> > Thank you.
> >
> > Tony Ferguson
> > On Lake Superior, where the sky meets the Lake
> >
> > Stoneware, Porcelain, Raku and more
> > by Coleman, Ferguson, Winchester...
> > www.aquariusartgallery.com
> > 218-727-6339
> > 315 N. Lake Ave
> > Apt 312
> > Duluth, MN 55806
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Mert & Holly Kilpatrick"
> > To:
> > Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2003 8:00 PM
> > Subject: Re: Koie Ryoji On-line Exhibition
> >
> >
> > > I was interested to hear other opinions also. I
looked at his mugs,
> $275
> > > each.
> > >
http://www.trocadero.com/japanesepottery/items/144073/item144073.html
> > >
> > > I guess I am just uncultured and gauche, but it's over
my head. The
> mugs
> > > remind me of things my nieces made when they visited.
Someone please
> give
> > > me an art appreciation lesson on these. Seriously.
> > > Holly
> > > East Bangor, PA
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Butch Welch"
> > >
> > > > Is this art? Is it overfired glaze? I would like to
hear what
> clayarters
> > > > critique of this work is. The link was posted for
review, so I accept
> > that
> > > > as being open for review.
> > > >
http://www.trocadero.com/japanesepottery/items/144071/en1store.html
> > > >
> > > > regards, Butch
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
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kruzewski on thu 22 may 03
Phil, all,
Some timesI use the backs of tiles as ware boards for the odd small item - I
don't throw mugs and such on bats but cut them off the wheel and place them
on a ware board - usually plaster. When I use the underside of a tile the
impressed patterning or wording from the tile comes out plainly as raised
wording on the bottom of the mug or whatever as the wet clay settles into
the cavities. These I sponge off.
So you needn't necessarily throw the item on the scratched bat if you don't
want to mark your throwing bats.
I looked at this exhibition after seeing a lot of the comments. I don't know
for certain, but I think that the look of these mugs is part of a statement
rather than a lack of skill or of care. What we don't know was his intent
was when he made these mugs.
It would be quite interesting to know who buys them and why - will they use
them for coffee or will they be an exhibit on a shelf - an artistic
statement?
And lets face it, we may all say "puh! $275 for a mug!!" but if that
elevates the humble mug in some people's minds it eventually has a knock-on
effect for all of us, somewhere down the line.
Jacqui
North Wales
----- Original Message -----
From:
To:
Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2003 7:56 AM
Subject: Re: Koie Ryoji On-line Exhibition - them ninneelevenbottoms
> A 'positive' emblem or character on a Bat is an interesting
> idea for something to be transfered in relief onto the
> bottoms of things then Thrown.
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