David Beumee on tue 3 jun 03
>As an international list, isn't this thread a little parochial and limited?
Sorry Janet,
Let's hear it all. My mistake.
David Beumee
>It may not have been intended that way, but you guys certainly know how to
>effectively dismiss and exclude the rest of the world. Wouldn't it have
>been a tad more gracious to extend the search beyond the borders of the
>USA? You could always ignore and delete everything which you feel is
>inapplicable or inappropriate, but as it is... Well it is like watching the
>neighbours party and wondering why no one from the wrong side of the street
>was invited...
>
>Sincerely
>
>Janet Kaiser
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Craig Martell on tue 3 jun 03
Janet observed:
>As an international list, isn't this thread a little parochial and limited?
>It may not have been intended that way, but you guys certainly know how to
>effectively dismiss and exclude the rest of the world.
Hi Janet:
I really don't think that anyone was excluding the rest of the world. Not
intentionally anyway. But you do make a good point and I think that it's a
good thing you did.
My post dealt with what I was most familiar with in terms of places to see
pots. When I was thinking about where to find galleries how to get
information I remembered how I went about this when I was in England and
Wales a few years back. I mainly looked at periodicals dealing with art
and craft and found so many places to go I didn't have time to see
everything I wanted to see. When we were in London we went to The Craft
Council Gallery and saw a great retrospective of Bernard Leach's
work. After viewing the work we went upstairs to the Cafe and had lunch on
John Leach's plates and bowls. What a groove! So, there's a great place to
go if any of you are in London. Take the tube to the "Angel" tubestop and
yer within walking distance of the gallery. If you want to see some other
good ceramic work, hang a right when you come out of the "Angel" station
and go a ways along Upper Street until you come to the Hart Gallery. I
went there because they have Sutton Taylor's work and I really wanted to
see what was there. It wasn't on display but the person working kindly
brought out all of Sutton's work for us to see. They also had a great show
of John Matlby's up at the time.
The pottery in the Victoria and Albert Museum in London could easily take
years to fully absorb. If that's not bad enough, there is a sales shop
there with wonderful contemporary work. After being there, with no more
room in our heads for anything else, we headed over to The Craft Potter's
Shop for another festival of visual wonder. At the end of that day I had
to go to the neighborhood Pub for a full on attempt at "blotto" to ease my
overcrowded brain. Thankfully, the UK ales did their job.
I was with a clayart friend who lives in The Midlands near Coventry when we
were in Wales and we didn't really go to any galleries, just showrooms and
studios of several potters. I must say that these folks were very kind and
hospitable and the work was impossible to view without purchasing
something. I had a fortune in ceramic treasures for the flight back to the
US. We visited Phil Rogers, Jack Doherty, and David and Margaret Frith in
Wales. All have great studios with beautiful work and showrooms. After we
visited Phil, we headed south and popped in on Mick Casson who is probably
my favorite potter in the known universe. Mick was doing well and had a
lot of work until we left with some of it. My friend from the Midlands
bought two giant jugs. The showroom at Wobage Farm has a lot of great
work. Mick's and Shiela Casson's too, plus John Alliston, Andrew McGarva
and I forget who else.
We also went down to Dorset and visited Jonathan Garrett, a friend of Svend
Bayer. Like most potters in the UK, Jonathan sold from "the gate" and had
a lot of his own work and some really nice stuff by Svend. Jonathan
woodfires and his kiln is an absolute grandiose work of art. I won't
describe it. You will all have to go see it for yourselves. He's a most
remarkable person and one of the nicest people I've ever met. Had a
wonderful chat with him about all kinds of stuff. If you want to talk to a
well informed lover of African Music, Jonathan is the man.
Anyway, I hope this makes up for the oversight. I didn't know about The
Chapel of Art when I was there or we probably would have shown up and
bugged you endlessly. Perhaps next time and as an acknowledgment of
international concern I can only say that there are great potters
everywhere, not just in the US or the UK. They're everywhere. It's the
most remarkable thing!
later on, Craig Martell Hopewell Oregon
Gail Dapogny on tue 3 jun 03
Janet,
You are so right! Americans are far too exclusive and self-oriented our
current government isn't helping the situation. I look to the arts to
rectify this, but we seem to slip up there sometimes too.Usually Clayart
doesn't fall into that trap.
Hoping to help eradicate arrogance!...Gail Dapogny in Ann Arbor
>As an international list, isn't this thread a little parochial and limited?
>It may not have been intended that way, but you guys certainly know how to
>effectively dismiss and exclude the rest of the world. Wouldn't it have
>been a tad more gracious to extend the search beyond the borders of the
>USA? You could always ignore and delete everything which you feel is
>inapplicable or inappropriate, but as it is... Well it is like watching the
>neighbours party and wondering why no one from the wrong side of the street
>was invited...
>
>Sincerely
>Janet Kaiser
Janet Kaiser on tue 3 jun 03
As an international list, isn't this thread a little parochial and limited?
It may not have been intended that way, but you guys certainly know how to
effectively dismiss and exclude the rest of the world. Wouldn't it have
been a tad more gracious to extend the search beyond the borders of the
USA? You could always ignore and delete everything which you feel is
inapplicable or inappropriate, but as it is... Well it is like watching the
neighbours party and wondering why no one from the wrong side of the street
was invited...
Sincerely
Janet Kaiser
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Vince Pitelka on wed 4 jun 03
Dear Janet -
I can certainly appreciate your concern, and Clayart should work to be more
internationally inclusive. You and all of our other international members
add such depth and dimension to Clayart. We are all so thankful for that.
But there is nothing exclusionist or separatist about a thread seeking the
best pottery galleries in the US. I would be pleased to see another thread
talking about the best potter galleries in England or internationally. But
as you know, we isolate information efficiently by limiting the parameters
of the search, thus, a thread discussing the best pottery galleries in the
US is a very valid.
My own suggestions would include Red Star Studios in Kansas City, Pinch
Pottery in Northampton MA, Ferrin Gallery (Great Barrington MA?), Garth
Clark Gallery in NYC.
Best wishes -
- Vince
Vince Pitelka
Appalachian Center for Craft
Tennessee Technological University
1560 Craft Center Drive, Smithville TN 37166
Home - vpitelka@dtccom.net
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