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olympic kiln question please help

updated tue 10 jun 03

 

Kenneth D. Westfall on sat 7 jun 03


Hmm haven't gotten a chance to fire my semi-new Olympic kiln yet. When you
have your kiln turn to med do any of the elements get red hot? I believe
if your kiln has a high, med, low, and off setting on your switch then on
med at least one row of elements per switch should get red hot. On high
all the elements should get red hot in a few minute. If they are not then
you have some kind of electrical problem be it dead element, dead
switch, loose connection or no neutral. Are you sure you have the correct
voltage being supplied to the kiln. 208 commercial voltage versus 230
voltage make a big difference in how much heat the elements produce.

At 06:00 PM 06/07/2003 -0400, you wrote:
>Hi all,
>Yes, I am still having problems with the kiln. I have been in touch with the
>manufactures and at this point the only way this matter can be resolved is to
>exchange the kiln. My question is to anyone who has an Olympic kiln If you
>leave the kiln on low for 2-3 hrs. how high is the temperature and when
>you are
>on medium for 2-3 hrs. what is the temp. This may seem like an odd
>question but
>our kiln will only reach maybe 200 degrees on low after 3-4 hrs. and then
>will only go to about 500-600 degrees on medium after another 3-4 hrs. For
>example the last firing we did in it after having it on low and medium for a
>combination of 10 hrs. the kiln only reached 850 degrees. I am wondering
>if this is
>just how the Olympic's fire? Our problem is if this is how these kilns work
>exchanging isn't going to solve anything. So, please anyone with an
>Olympic oval
>kiln please let us know if this is how these kilns fire.
>Thank you
>Mark and Cindy/The Mudpit
>228 Manhattan Ave.
>Brooklyn,NY.11206
>www.mudpitnyc.com
>
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Kenneth D. Westfall
Pine Hill Pottery
R.D. #2 Box 6AA
Harrisville, WV 26362
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Earl Brunner on sat 7 jun 03


Your power source matches the rated power requirements for the kiln?
Something is wrong.

-----Original Message-----
From: Clayart [mailto:CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG] On Behalf Of Cindy Gatto
Sent: Saturday, June 07, 2003 3:01 PM
To: CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG
Subject: olympic kiln question please help

Hi all,
Yes, I am still having problems with the kiln. I have been in touch with
the
manufactures and at this point the only way this matter can be resolved
is to
exchange the kiln. My question is to anyone who has an Olympic kiln If
you
leave the kiln on low for 2-3 hrs. how high is the temperature and when
you are
on medium for 2-3 hrs. what is the temp. This may seem like an odd
question but
our kiln will only reach maybe 200 degrees on low after 3-4 hrs. and
then
will only go to about 500-600 degrees on medium after another 3-4 hrs.
For
example the last firing we did in it after having it on low and medium
for a
combination of 10 hrs. the kiln only reached 850 degrees. I am wondering
if this is
just how the Olympic's fire? Our problem is if this is how these kilns
work
exchanging isn't going to solve anything. So, please anyone with an
Olympic oval
kiln please let us know if this is how these kilns fire.
Thank you
Mark and Cindy/The Mudpit
228 Manhattan Ave.
Brooklyn,NY.11206
www.mudpitnyc.com

Josie Norman on sat 7 jun 03


Cindy, I have an olympic oval and have had no problems firing it. I
average between seven to eight and a half hours for both bisque ^06 and
glaze ^8 firings. I do find the bottom layer is a little below ^8 and top
shelf is a little above, I just keep that in mind when I load it. O)other
then that I've had no problems with it. I've been happier with this kiln
then any other that I've had,I bought this one used about five year ago,
the thing it's needed is the normal things like elements,ect. Have you
checked the inter box connecters? Sometime as they heat they will expand
and don't make good contact. I sorry if this is old news I'm new to the
list and missed most of your problem. Josie
> Date: 6/7/03 5:11:40 PM
> Subject: olympic kiln question please help
>
> Hi all,
> Yes, I am still having problems with the kiln. I have been in touch with
the
> manufactures and at this point the only way this matter can be resolved
is to
> exchange the kiln. My question is to anyone who has an Olympic kiln If you
> leave the kiln on low for 2-3 hrs. how high is the temperature and when
you are
> on medium for 2-3 hrs. what is the temp. This may seem like an odd
question but
> our kiln will only reach maybe 200 degrees on low after 3-4 hrs. and then
> will only go to about 500-600 degrees on medium after another 3-4 hrs. For
> example the last firing we did in it after having it on low and medium
for a
> combination of 10 hrs. the kiln only reached 850 degrees. I am wondering
if this is
> just how the Olympic's fire? Our problem is if this is how these kilns
work
> exchanging isn't going to solve anything. So, please anyone with an
Olympic oval
> kiln please let us know if this is how these kilns fire.
> Thank you
> Mark and Cindy/The Mudpit
> 228 Manhattan Ave.
> Brooklyn,NY.11206
> www.mudpitnyc.com
>
>
____________________________________________________________________________
__
> Send postings to clayart@lsv.ceramics.org
>
> You may look at the archives for the list or change your subscription
> settings from http://www.ceramics.org/clayart/
>
> Moderator of the list is Mel Jacobson who may be reached at
melpots@pclink.com.

Cindy Gatto on sat 7 jun 03


Hi all,
Yes, I am still having problems with the kiln. I have been in touch with the
manufactures and at this point the only way this matter can be resolved is to
exchange the kiln. My question is to anyone who has an Olympic kiln If you
leave the kiln on low for 2-3 hrs. how high is the temperature and when you are
on medium for 2-3 hrs. what is the temp. This may seem like an odd question but
our kiln will only reach maybe 200 degrees on low after 3-4 hrs. and then
will only go to about 500-600 degrees on medium after another 3-4 hrs. For
example the last firing we did in it after having it on low and medium for a
combination of 10 hrs. the kiln only reached 850 degrees. I am wondering if this is
just how the Olympic's fire? Our problem is if this is how these kilns work
exchanging isn't going to solve anything. So, please anyone with an Olympic oval
kiln please let us know if this is how these kilns fire.
Thank you
Mark and Cindy/The Mudpit
228 Manhattan Ave.
Brooklyn,NY.11206
www.mudpitnyc.com

Brant Palley NMCLAY.com on sun 8 jun 03


is it possible your electrician hooked it up wrong, is it only running on
110V? invest in a voltmeter and check it your self.

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Jeanie on mon 9 jun 03


Dear Cindy. Sorry to hear you're having trouble with your Olypic. I
have the largest size oval-its been a trouble free workhorse for over
ten years. I can't respond with specific temperatures, but yours seem
way too low. I often candle on low for three-four hours. The ware
inside becomes way too hot to touch.Three to foor hours on medium
following that should put you in the bright cherry red to orange phase.
Hope this helps.
Jeanie in Pa.

Arnold Howard on mon 9 jun 03


Cindy, do you know someone who can test the amperage your kiln draws?
You should also test the voltage under load. Those two tests will help
your manufacturer determine exactly what is wrong with the kiln.

Sincerely,

Arnold Howard
Paragon Industries, L.P.
www.paragonweb.com



From: Jeanie
> Dear Cindy. Sorry to hear you're having trouble with your Olypic. I
> have the largest size oval-its been a trouble free workhorse for over
> ten years. I can't respond with specific temperatures, but yours seem
> way too low. I often candle on low for three-four hours. The ware
> inside becomes way too hot to touch.Three to foor hours on medium
> following that should put you in the bright cherry red to orange
phase.
> Hope this helps.
> Jeanie in Pa.
>

Craig Martell on mon 9 jun 03


Hi:

You wanted to know how your kiln compared with regard to temperature rise
over a certain period of time.

I don't know anything about the current Olympic kilns. I haven't fired an
Olympic in about 15 years. I've used mainly Skutts and I'll tell you what
mine will do and you can compare it with yours.

This temp curve is for my Skutt 1227. It's a 10 cubic foot decagon with
three rings. It draws 47 amps with all three switches on hi. It's a 240
volt kiln that uses 11,250 watts at peak.

I did a bisque yesterday and the kiln was stuffed to the gills so factor in
a "large thermal mass" which takes longer to fire than a light load. One
hr with all three rings on low and the lid open two and a half inches, the
temp was 310F. Three hrs on low and the temp was 480F. At that point, I
turn all switches to med and leave the lid open. One hr on med and the
temp is 480F. An hour later I turn the kiln to Hi and the temp at that
point was 955F. The kiln reached cone 03 at exactly 3 hrs later. The
pyrometer read 2001F. Cone 03 is about 1988F but with a faster cycle you
need a bit of extra temp and heat work to drop cone 03. So. from a cold
start to cone 03, the kiln took about 8 hrs.

I think you need to have your kiln checked out. It would seem that there
is a power deficiency somewhere.

regards, Craig Martell Hopewell, Oregon